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Australian Defence Force Builds $1.7m Linux-Based Flight Simulator

scrubl writes "The Australian Defence Force (ADF) has revealed its latest flight simulator runs on SUSE Linux-based clusters of Opteron servers and uses an open source graphics platform. The Defence Science and Technology Organisation's (DSTO) Air Operations Simulation Centre in Melbourne creates virtual worlds that allow pilots to experience real-world combat situations without leaving the ground. The visuals software was written in OpenGL, using commercial and open source scene graph engines and making 'heavy use of OpenGL Shader Language programs.'"

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  1. Re:I want one! by ae1294 · · Score: 4, Informative

    I want one! Where can I get myself a sweet flight sim like this?! :-o

    In the Australian Defense Force?

  2. Re:I want one! by duguk · · Score: 3, Informative

    That's an Americanism. We're talking about Australia. The summary even spells it Defence, and how could that be wrong!?

    Even their website is defence.gov.au...

  3. Re:Not really news. by dkf · · Score: 3, Informative

    Very cool, thanks! I was really impressed until you said "1GHz ethernet". That seems... unlikely =D

    He was probably mixing up his terms when referring to gigabit ether. It's not the fastest thing on the block, but it's still pretty nippy (and definitely beats what most people have deployed to desktop level) and the faster options (notably Infiniband) tend to only be used in specialist applications like tightly-coupled supercomputers.

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  4. Re:$1.7m is dirt cheap! but missing something by RobVB · · Score: 3, Informative

    Actually, the most expensive simulator has gravity force feedback.

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  5. Re:Simulating what, exactly? by maglor_83 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Actually we'll be retiring the F-111 next year. We will have a mix of Hornets, Super Hornets and JSF for some time, though.

  6. Re:It's pretty much a given that they saved money by Tubal-Cain · · Score: 4, Informative

    It may be that the software for turning a pile of Linux boxes into a rendering farm is free or less expensive or more efficient than the equivalent for Windows.

    Indeed. It's not a coincidence that only 5 of Top500's list are pure Windows environments.

  7. Re:It's pretty much a given that they saved money by mjwx · · Score: 4, Informative

    even Microsoft will give you source in order to get their name stamped on it.

    Microsoft has twice before refused to give the source code for Windows for Warships to the Australian Navy, what makes you think the RAAF will have any more luck. The US govt will block this as they have fears that this will be leaked to the soviets (throwback to some 1960's paranoia when Australia was being blamed for intel leaks caused by a CIA double agent)

    Which is why the cost savings on running Linux is funny.

    How, the chair is not just a copy of MS Flight simulator X on a big screen, it's a hydraulic control system that needs to make precise movements in real time to correspond with input, Windows cant even control a mechanical lathe with millimetre accuracy, that's why DOS is still popular in the assembly line. Besides the RAAF's biggest cost isn't in software or hardware, its in operational costs. To achieve similar results using Windows (.net and what not) you need to use more powerful HW, increasing the amount of power it needs, cooling requirements and above all else, maintenance. Windows breaks more often then Linux, so the RAAF would need to spend more time on maintenance with a windows based system.

    Spend millions of dollars on a project, and do stupid things like cut corners that save you statistically irrelevant amounts of money on the project and result in a far more difficult to support product.

    The RAAF would have evaluated all the options, Windows simply could not perform the job the RAAF asked of it. No corners were cut here. This didn't save "statistically irrelevant amounts of money", the project provided a machine that fits the specifications detailed by the RAAF.

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  8. Re:It's pretty much a given that they saved money by Alpha830RulZ · · Score: 3, Informative

    Linux has had an in here for some years now, due to earlier 64 bit support, and better/earlier support for large numbers of files in a directory. I work for a division of a fortune 500 that does datamining/text mining. Windows lost us in about 2004 for these two reasons, and there hasn't been any reason to go back. Cost wasn't the original reason, but cost keeps us from changing. $800 a machine adds up when you are looking at dozens or hundreds of rendering/compute servers. Linux has also proven to be easier for command and control of the jobs. The one thing that I long for is the full featured user identification/authentication support that Active Directory has.

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