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Opera 10.0 Released

neonsignal writes "Opera 10 has been released. It now supports rich text email, the 'turbo' Opera proxy server feature, some HTML 5 support, XML 'pretty printing,' extra skinning features, and a 100/100 score in the Acid3 test. There has been no official announcement as yet."

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  1. Re:That is impressive by sopssa · · Score: 4, Interesting

    But does it run on Linux?

    It was released for all Windows, Mac OS and Linux.

    Opera has always been my favourite browser. It has pretty much everything packed in that you want and need, and still its really lightweight and smooth. Even firefox doesn't get close, a lot of times it feels quite non-smooth. Responsiveness from the GUI and things like scrolling does *a lot*. And its consistent on every platform, and always has been *the browser* to push new things on browsers. Mouse gestures, speed dial, advanced browsers on Wii/Mobile phones etc.

    The old "Next" page also has been updated with little bit of information about 10.10, which will include Opera Unite. So its not included in this version yet.

    Another interesting thing about Opera is that its marketshare on CIS countries is more than IE/FF/Other browsers. Are they just technically more aware or whats the cause for that?

  2. It's not a score! by nmalinoski · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Am I the only one who realizes that the #/100 on the ACID3 test is not the number of tests completed and that it isn't a score? It should be the number of tests -started-. Like the ACID1 and ACID2 tests, it's either correct or it isn't.

  3. Re:Snappiest beast out there by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Ex-Opera employee here: Yes, the same code base is used for mobile and device versions of Opera.

    How is that possible? Opera Mini, for example, is a MIDP 2.0 (Java 2 Micro Edition) application, while the desktop Opera appears to be C/C++. I suppose that Windows Mobile edition of Opera Mobile shares code with the desktop Opera browser (which is already coded to the Win32 API), but the Opera Mobile for the Symbian phones would almost certainly have to be Java, right?

  4. It still fails at my simple CSS test. by TodLiebeck · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I reported this about a year ago. Create a simple page, with two absolute positioned DIVs, nested one inside the other. Resize the browser vertically (but not horizontally). Watch as the DIVs are no longer positioned according to your specification.

    My example: http://echo.nextapp.com/content/test/operacss/

    The consequences get a bit more catastrophic with applications with larger quantities of nested DIVs. Things really start to break when you start measuring using Element.offsetHeight.

    Apologies for posting it here...again...but I'm tired of replying to users who ask "why does component X not render properly in Opera, it passes Acid3 thus something must be wrong with the component."

  5. Re:plugins? by machine321 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I hate using browsers without adblock/noscript. Are there equivalents for Opera?

  6. Re:Snappiest beast out there by hkmwbz · · Score: 4, Interesting

    How is that possible? Opera Mini, for example, is a MIDP 2.0 (Java 2 Micro Edition) application, while the desktop Opera appears to be C/C++.

    Opera Mini is just a thin application. The actual "browser", or the engine, runs on a server.

    I suppose that Windows Mobile edition of Opera Mobile shares code with the desktop Opera browser (which is already coded to the Win32 API), but the Opera Mobile for the Symbian phones would almost certainly have to be Java, right?

    Nope. They use the same engine (the biggest and most complex part of a browser), but not necessarily the same UI.

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  7. Re:Not free by RiotingPacifist · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It's obvious why this is moded troll, however i believe you have a point.
    Personally I'm a bit of a gnu zealot and that is why I'm holding on to firefox over chrome/opera, but i do find it interesting that a lot of people claim "open source software is more secure because you can view the source", then go on to run a closed app in one of the most vulnerable position on a system.

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  8. Re:That is impressive by hkmwbz · · Score: 5, Interesting

    While Opera does have a lot of neat features, Google Gears support and the new fast Javascript engine haven't been released, these features do make web apps such as Gmai, Google Docs and Buxfer a lot better.

    Sorry to disappoint you, but V8, Carakan, etc. are for nothing but bragging rights these days. Someone did an analysis. About 10% at most of CPU cycles were taken up by JavaScript even on sites like Gmail. The real performance gains on real sites today are not JavaScript at all.

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  9. Epic Fail! by wylderide · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Recent versions have become increasingly brittle. In the "final" version (at least for linux), it's got a showstopper bug that causes it to spin in a loop anytime the cpu gets busy, causing it to eat up even more cpu time. This is nowhere near ready for release.

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  10. Re:That is impressive by MartinSchou · · Score: 4, Interesting

    So ... you want Opera to include in their main browser a feature that you know is an optional 3rd party plug-in in for Firefox?

    Have you considered why Adblock might be a 3rd party plug-in? Apart from the "barebones" bit. Could it be because the first sign that Mozilla is actively including a list of ads to block, they will be sued into the ground in the US and other places for interfering with other people's income? And while they might win such a lawsuit, don't they have better ways to spend their money?

    And if they were to lose such a lawsuit, Mozilla might get off somewhat easy, as they are a non-profit organization. Opera on the other hand isn't.

    Now, is it possible to make a third party addition to Opera that shares adsites to block? Certainly. I'm willing to bet that it's also possible to use the same lists that Adblock uses. To make things easy to start with, it could use mvps' list as a starter.

    And, if you really want to be pedantic, there's always the option of using Google to find what you're looking for. There seems to be quite few attempts at recreating Adblock:
    Tamil's My.Opera blog
    OperaWiki.info has some suggestions
    Lex1's blog on My.Opera also has some ideas

    There's even a Flashblock for Opera

    Basically it boils down to the same complaints you hear about Linux from people who are used to Windows: "but I need $program, and I don't want to look for replacements".

    Now, what is the best option for you? I have the faintest idea. I'm quite satisfied with the built in filtering as it is. If I go to a site that has some annoying banners, it rarely takes me more than 30 seconds to block them, and I can live with that.

    Is it as effective as Adblock? No clue - I don't use Adblock or Firefox if I can avoid it. It lacks the basic things that I love in Opera. Funny how that works out - one man's must have item is another man's "meh".

    And if you want to be really pedantic, the one thing that Firefox still kind of needs is a built in ad blocker that's as good as Adblock.

  11. Does it support the W3C standard for MVC by leighklotz · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Does it support the W3C standard for MVC markup yet, or is Opera still cherry-picking stanards that suit its business model more than those of its users?