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Sending Astronauts On a One-Way Trip To Mars

The Narrative Fallacy writes "Cosmologist Lawrence M. Krauss, director of the Origins Initiative at Arizona State University, writes in the NY Times that with the investment needed to return to the moon likely to run in excess of $150 billion and the cost of a round trip to Mars easily two to four times that, there is a way to reduce the cost and technical requirements of a manned mission to Mars: send the astronauts on a one way trip. 'While the idea of sending astronauts aloft never to return is jarring upon first hearing, the rationale for one-way trips into space has both historical and practical roots,' writes Krauss. 'Colonists and pilgrims seldom set off for the New World with the expectation of a return trip.' There are more immediate and pragmatic reasons to consider one-way human space exploration missions including money. 'If the fuel for the return is carried on the ship, this greatly increases the mass of the ship, which in turn requires even more fuel.' But would anyone volunteer to go on such a trip? Krauss says that informal surveys show that many scientists would be willing to go on a one-way mission into space and that we might want to restrict the voyage to older astronauts, whose longevity is limited in any case. "

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  1. I'm all for it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just make sure my wife's on board.

    1. Re:I'm all for it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I second that. I want your wife onboard.

    2. Re:I'm all for it... by spazdor · · Score: 4, Funny

      Hey, we can volunteer other people for this? See, I know his guy, he's a telephone sanitizer...

      Do any of you know someone?

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    3. Re:I'm all for it... by BoppreH · · Score: 3, Funny

      Hey, we can volunteer other people for this? See, I know his guy, he's a telephone sanitizer...

      Do any of you know someone?

      Better change that to a management consultant. I heard of this place that got rid of all his phone sanitizers and got royally screwed.

    4. Re:I'm all for it... by pdabbadabba · · Score: 4, Funny

      The death panels are real! And they're run by NASA!

    5. Re:I'm all for it... by Yvan256 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Plus lag would totally suck on FPS games.

      Maybe, but think about how you'd be the l33t player if you're the host!

    6. Re:I'm all for it... by AmigaMMC · · Score: 4, Funny

      If the ex wife is on board would you get your house back?

    7. Re:I'm all for it... by palegray.net · · Score: 4, Funny

      Silly, that's why you shoot real Martians.

    8. Re:I'm all for it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I have underwear older than the Internet.

  2. Added Bonus with old astronauts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    The added bonus is that they don't have broadband at home, so they'll accept an 8 minute ping from Mars.

    1. Re:Added Bonus with old astronauts by sadler121 · · Score: 5, Funny

      They are the poor souls who will really be cursing Blizzard for Starcraft 2 not having LAN support!

  3. I'm all for it too... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just make sure my wife isn't on board.

  4. Re:That Analogy Falls Apart by Herkum01 · · Score: 4, Funny

    The first set of explorers are to seed the planet with their corpses so that the next wave will have something to eat.

  5. Re:its a dated suggestion by Shakrai · · Score: 5, Funny

    The real problem is radiation exposure. 6 months there, 500 days on the surface, 6 months back.

    So just transfer some auxiliary power to the deflector shields. Geez, do I have to figure everything out for you?

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  6. Just find some radical Muslim astronauts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Tell them that there are 72 unspoiled virgins waiting for them.

  7. Re:That Analogy Falls Apart by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    But I wonder what would happen when they get very old.

    This is just a guess mind you, but I'm pretty sure they would die.

  8. Re:That Analogy Falls Apart by moon3 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Sign me in. I have a colon cancer with 2 year left to live (max).

  9. Re:That Analogy Falls Apart by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    All they need is a fabrication shop which is built entirely from parts which the shop itself is capable of manufacturing.

    What if the part that breaks made the part that broke?

  10. Re:There's a difference between Mars and the Ameri by Chris+Burke · · Score: 3, Funny

    Indeed, they often did back in the old days, however, I am fairly confident that at the very least, they expected a breatheable atmosphere at their destination.

    Not true! It's a little known fact that one of the reasons the Pilgrims were dependent on the natives for food that first Thanksgiving was because they'd wasted so much space in their ship's hold on canisters of compressed O2. You don't hear about this much, because the Pilgrims were so embarrassed when they first met the American Indians and wanted to know how they could survive without oxygen masks!

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  11. Re:That Analogy Falls Apart by stonedcat · · Score: 5, Funny

    Unless of course Mars is actually the cure for aging.

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  12. Re:That Analogy Falls Apart by shaitand · · Score: 3, Funny

    ummm... speak for yourself. I think we should sell tickets to the live video stream to pay for the resupply missions. Make sure 80% of the crew is smoking hot babes and that everyone shares a single sleeping chamber under full view of the cameras (including a few the crew don't know about).

    I think this is one instance where we can all agree that piracy would ultimately boost the ratings. I mean if nobody pays for the stream... no resupply...

  13. Nah boring. by TheLink · · Score: 4, Funny

    Just make sure choice politicians are on board.

    Or hold a reality show called "Voted Off The Planet!".

    I'm too lazy at the moment so I'll let you all imagine/figure out the details - e.g. 1-way or return.

    Lastly if the "right" people get voted off the planet that might actually save a lot more than 150 paltry billions in the long run ;).

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    1. Re:Nah boring. by bickerdyke · · Score: 5, Funny

      And call it the B-Ark!

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  14. Re:That Analogy Falls Apart by pcolaman · · Score: 4, Funny

    You forget about the gateway to hell that will open up eventually. So need to send at least one space marine to clean the shit up once it hits the fan.

  15. Re:That Analogy Falls Apart by FauxReal · · Score: 4, Funny

    What if the Martians think we're sending gifts and decide to keep the stuff for themselves? Awkward...

  16. Terraforming, the easy way. by AliasMarlowe · · Score: 4, Funny

    Food, drinking water, and oxygen will be the major limiting factors. That's assuming you can take along a habitat to mitigate the temperatures and dust storms. If the team lasts say 10 years, you'll run into other problems, like clothing and maintaining the shelter.

    Presumably, there would be a mechanism for extracting a tolerable atmosphere for breathing and for growing food, and equipment for turning Martian dirt into agrochemicals. Essentially, Martian raw materials will be processed into food for plants, which will convert it into food for humans, who will convert it into shit. Only some of the shit can be recycled back into the soil (human shit is not as good for plants as horse shit is). After 10 years of dumping the surplus shit outside, you'll have made a good start on terraforming the local surroundings...
    After sufficient time, Mars would be knee-deep in shit, and look just like Earth.

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