Attractive Women Make Men Temporarily Stupid
Ponca City, We love you writes "The Telegraph reports that men who spend even a few minutes in the company of an attractive woman perform less well in tests designed to measure brain function than those who chat to someone they do not find attractive. This leads to speculation that men use up so much of their brain function or 'cognitive resources' trying to impress beautiful women, they have little left for other tasks. Psychologists at Radboud University in The Netherlands carried out the study after one of them was so struck on impressing an attractive woman he had never met before, that he could not remember his address when she asked him where he lived. Researchers recruited 40 male heterosexual students and had each one perform a standard memory test. The volunteers then spent seven minutes chatting to male or female members of the research team before repeating the test. The results showed that men were slower and less accurate after trying to impress the women. The more they fancied them, the worse their score."
The blood rushes from one head to the other head.
I BSOD all time, where BSOD is Blank Stare Of Desire.
And yes, I need a reboot to come back
This story is worthless without pics!!!
What is this "attractive woman" device you speak of?
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Why not give the memory test during the chatting session to see what happens to cognitive function then? I'd be interested to see if men make the same number of mistakes if the test somehow ties into the whole 'impressing women' deal. Then again, I'd be interested to see how the women do in the same situation. I know a lot of women who dumb themselves down in the presence of a man they're interested in because they believe that men are intimidated by smart women.
From TFSummary:
How about the even more simple explanation of just being distracted by the beautiful woman and imagining her naked with her legs wrapped around you is taking up all of your resources? "Trying to impress" doesn't need to come into it at all (and likely doesn't because usually having your mind so completely occupied that you become a dumbass doesn't really impress people), and seems like a stretch of a conclusion to come up with. Far more likely that thought of sex have simply completely taken over the brain and body, as they so often do..
Like the old joke says, men have a brain and a penis, and only enough blood to operate one at a time. ;)
"Empathise with stupidity, and you're halfway to thinking like an idiot." - Iain M. Banks
Theres a song, by the Skatellites.
Obviously this now has a scientific basis:
If you wanna be happy
For the rest of your life,
Never make a pretty woman your wife,
So from my personal point of view,
Get an ugly girl to marry you.
A pretty woman makes her husband look small
And very often causes his downfall.
As soon as he marries her
Then she starts to do
The things that will break his heart.
But if you make an ugly woman your wife,
You'll be happy for the rest of your life,
An ugly woman cooks her meals on time,
She'll always give you peace of mind.
If you wanna be happy
For the rest of your life,
Never make a pretty woman your wife,
So from my personal point of view,
Get an ugly girl to marry you.
Don't let your friends say
You have no taste,
Go ahead and marry anyway,
Though her face is ugly,
Her eyes don't match,
Take it from me she's a better catch.
If you wanna be happy
For the rest of your life,
Never make a pretty woman your wife,
So from my personal point of view,
Get an ugly girl to marry you.
Say man.
Hey baby.
Saw your wife the other day.
Yeah?
Yeah, she's ugly.
Yeah, she's ugly but she sure can cook.
Yeah?. Okay.
If you wanna be happy
For the rest of your life,
Never make a pretty woman your wife,
So from my personal point of view,
Get an ugly girl to marry you.
In the free world the media isn't government run; the government is media run.
Now there is a concrete argument for gender segregation of boys and girls in school.... I wonder how women react around rich men?
I could have told you that.
It's embarrassing is what it is, to be turned into a drooling moron and then realise later just how stupid you sounded.
Anecdote is not, nor ever will be, the singular of "data". Sure, everyone may know this. Sure, the outcome may seem obvious to everyone. However, it is not empirical fact until it is studied and established as such. How many common sense "truths" have turned out to be not so true when properly analyzed over the history of human scientific endeavor? In the case of this study, anecdote and assumption about human behavior has now become data, and can be used as such in psychology and sociology to continue to study and describe how and why we are the way we are.
Now that we have established the phenomenon (doot dooo do-do-doot) as data, perhaps we can look into the actual physiological mechanisms which control it.
I would think that above all else, the type of people who read a "news for nerds" site would appreciate research for research sake. :-/
"Empathise with stupidity, and you're halfway to thinking like an idiot." - Iain M. Banks
It's perfectly valid if they don't claim it generalizes past the confines of the experiment. Of course the /. headline is then inaccurate, but it's not like that doesn't happen anyway. The problem is that there are thousands of variables that can affect an experiment, and you can't test them all in one go. What about testosterone level? Time since last having sex? Relationship status? Heterosexuals account for roughly 90% of the population, which makes them a reasonable group of test subjects for an experiment.
That said, I'd be extremely interested to see a similar study that takes sexual preference into account. Even more interesting would be to study transsexuals whose mind and body disagree on sex; as you might find that straight FTMs exhibit the same behavior as the heterosexual males, despite having female bodies themselves.
Playing devils advocate (here agreeing with you I guess), don't forget that not everyone can be cleanly lumped into those four bins of preference, you insensitive clod!;)
93rd rule of Slashdot: No matter how obvious my sarcasm is, my comment will be taken seriously by someone.
I used to get tongue-tied thinking I was unworthy of this gorgeous woman & becoming nervous & basically being an idiot. But now with advancing age I realize Beauty is only transitory. Today's "hottie" will probably be a "fatty" by the time she's 30 or 40 (see Pierce Brosnan's wife as an excellent example).*
In other words, they all get ugly eventually, just like me. So that gives me confidence.
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* http://www.beforeandaftermarriage.com/celebrity/fat-keely-shaye-smith
"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - historian Evelyn Beatrice Hall
CORRECTION: This story is worthless.
Another story: Men were given a huge meal of food they love. After eating, they did less well on tests.
Even more: Men were subjected to adversarial behavior from women who were being seductive, but had no interest in the men. The men responded with confusion, and later did less well on tests.
The women in Antarctica all have beards. Also, most of them are men. You may be thinking of penguins.
If you were blocking sigs, you wouldn't have to read this.
A lot less than for an app which makes me look like Brad Pitt in front of attractive women. Got one of those?
Crimeny, women have made me stupid for decades. When does it get better?
That's our life, the big wheel of shit. - The Fat Man, Blue Tango Salvage
This explains why the average Slashdotter is so smart. They found the best solution to this problem: stay away from women, however beautiful they may be, altogether!
The next time someone gives you crap for living in voluntary solitary confinement in your mom's basement, at least you'll know you're making the smart choice.
I'd rather you rationally disagree than irrationally agree.
One time, a group of us guys were at the grocery store buying some beer. I was having a conversation with one of my friends at the checkout counter as I saw a really, really, hot girl. My eyes were attached to her and couldn't let go. I was able to keep up with the conversation despite not looking at my friend.
He then asked "Are you really paying attention or are you just looking at that hot chick?"
I replied, "No, I'm paying attention. I'm like a dual-core processor. One is for our conversation and the other is right now on the girl"
Then my other friend said, "I am dual-core as well. But both cores are hung on that girl. "
Could women possibly misinterperate general lower mental function as being a response to their attractivness rather than the fact the guy is a stupid jerk, thus overestimating the intellegence of a potential mate, explaining finally why all the dumb a-holes out there get the hot girls before we do?
After logging in slashdot still does not take you back to the page you were on. It's been that way for 20 years.
Maybe beautiful women just make the stupid psychological tests seem less important by comparison.
--Mizerai
I must say, I'm a big fan of the Royal Enfields. Any bike that can be repaired by an illiterate indian village blacksmith using nothing but a hammer and a hacksaw is +1 win in my books.
:)
There was a cool Enfield trick that we learned last time we were in India; if you can't start your bike on a cold dewy morning, just take out the spark plug, pour a little bit of petrol into the chamber, put spark plug back in, and bang, it starts first kick
The guy who taught it to us used the same trick in the Israeli Defence Force to start tanks in the desert.
http://www.zombieapocalypse.tv/
Hey guys,
You might want to study whether the sun is bright or if the sky is blue.
FWIW I'm not sure that it's always "if you're trying to impress them" or even due to sexual urges - I know there have been times when I've been introduced to some exceptionally attractive woman, and it's like my mind has just shut off (and no, I don't mean that something else has switched on!). It's as if she has this thought dampening field and I'm stuck in it, just based on proximity and the fact that she's paying some level of attention to me.
But of course that's never happened since I've been married, because I don't even notice other women... right honey?
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Both genders are equally susceptible to the effects of hormones overriding their more rational thought processes. Our limbic system, (limbic I've recently been told is now a deprecated term to describe to describe our motivational systems) flush our more rational processes. What has become more apparent is that our wet core is necessary to our rational decision making no matter how we might like it to be otherwise. Women are just as hormonally driven as men and the study, perhaps unintentionally, perpetuates gender stereotyping and myth making that suggests the horned, male ego is pushing the agenda. It's a mark of cultivation and high intelligence that our libido can't cloud our objectivity. The female psyche may not be the eternal mystery to men that our mythology suggests although there are deep distinctive traits. I've been married and, if you count co-habitations as periods of 6 months or longer, then I've lived with 7 women. Although women, as a (stereo) type, might not count 6 months as a long term cohabitation and might just see it as typical of the male willingness to say anything and do anything just to get laid 2 or 3 times a day. In my experience, if emotions engendered by attractive, potential sex partners can inhibit our higher reasoning faculty, then emotions and drugs are devastating. Personally I've found the drunker I get the more attractive women find me. This effect is more pronounced if I'm alone on a bar stool and two or more attractive women are near by. Inevitably, as I nurse one drink after another, and glance their way, sooner or later, one or more return my interested looks and an uncontrolled giggle will escape. That's when I know they're attracted to me. Of course that kind of attention from beautiful women is unsettling and I usually down a few more quick drinks just to put things in perspective. It's then they can't seem to stop staring at me, and, just about then, the giggling stops and things get serious. I'm pretty sure their upset looks reflect a conflict among them as to which one will leave with me. Although I've never been able to verify my guess because about then one or all of them will ask the bartender to see me out. I take this as a consensus on their part that if one of them can't have me then, in the name of friendship, they'll jointly and severally forego my company. I usually leave peacefully not wanting to destroy any close friendships.
ideopath @ play
I go to lots of conferences where supposedly there are lots of brilliant men. But, when I meet them, they are just as stupid as the rest of the guys.
If you must moderate, please moderate as irrelevent, not something bad, because I'm sure someone will find this interest
Durrr... sorry to double comment on the same post, but I wanted to address this.
Some things count as so obvious as to not require scientific inquiry. Hot women give get males wood. You don't need
to publish this to claim it, end of story.
Yes, and for centuries it was so obvious that no scientific scrutiny was required that the sun went around the earth, not the other way around. It was also completely obvious that a heavier object would fall faster than a lighter object. It was also obvious that things would get cold because the cold of the surroundings would flow into them. It was also so obvious that time passes at a constant rate, regardless of our perceptions and reference frames. It was also so obvious that humans are the only organisms to experience emotion and pain.
Obviously there are a great many things that are so obvious as to not require scientific inquiry.
Point being, a great many things are so obvious. A great many of those obvious things also turn out to be correct in light of empirical data. However, we are not allowed to treat those scientifically and draw scientific conclusions from them until they are established as empirical data. This is one of the fundamental requirements for science, and I would think people on a "news for nerds" site would get that. Taking the obvious for granted as true is exactly the kind of mentality that brings about pseudoscience. Science requires empiricism, even for the bleedingly obvious.
"Empathise with stupidity, and you're halfway to thinking like an idiot." - Iain M. Banks
thats due to the alcohol content required to get her into your car
"The hands that help are better far than lips that pray." - Robert Ingersoll (1833-1899)
So, what you are saying is that the comparable test for women would be to do the test in a Coach bag store?
The more people I meet, the better I like my dog.