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ELF Knocks Down AM Towers To Save Earth, Intercoms

ScentCone writes "The ELF (Earth Liberation Front) has claimed responsibility for destroying the primary AM towers used by radio station KRKO in Washington state. From their statement: 'AM radio waves cause adverse health effects including a higher rate of cancer, harm to wildlife, and that the signals have been interfering with home phone and intercom lines.' The poor intercom performance must have been the last straw."

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  1. Re:"Almost"? by pla · · Score: 1, Troll

    I buy an SUV though. It is -mine- that is I can do whatever the heck I want with it.

    True.

    I can't stop you from buying an SUV, thereby endangering my life (not to mention your own - The gloss of "safety" attributed to SUVs doesn't even exist for the occupants) every time you get on the road. You can choose to waste your money to put twice as many greenhouse gasses per mile into the air as the average passenger vehicle. You have the "right" to back over your own kids because SUVs have dangerously poor rear and side blind spots.

    But y'know, somehow, I just can't seem to feel all that bad when someone throws a molotov through the window of your penile compensation at 2am.

    But hey, just my opinion. You have every right to do whatever the heck you want with it, and I look like the asshole here.

  2. Re:Citation Needed by commodore64_love · · Score: 0, Troll

    Uh... he didn't claim EM isn't harmful. He claimed that *AM* radiation which is 1/8th miles long will have any effect on a tiny human being.

    >>>(Calling it "terrorism" is, of course, ridiculous.)

    Democrat-biased CNN calls it terrorism. Look at the end of their link: www.edition.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/09/04/washington.towers.terrorism

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  3. Re:Citation Needed by commodore64_love · · Score: 0, Troll

    >>>Imagine replacing every radio transmitter and receiver with a more complicated version... You're telling me *that* isn't profitable?

    Well already have that:
    - HD Radio in U.S.
    - DAB or DRM in E.U.

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  4. Re:Citation Needed by commodore64_love · · Score: 0, Troll

    And what would the ELF have to do to make their actions qualify "terrorism"? Kill people? Knock-over the Seattle World Trade Center?

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  5. Re:Citation Needed by ThurstonMoore · · Score: 0, Troll

    I don't know about that have you ever met a Diddohead, they seem to be under the influence of something bad. BTW does the fact that spellcheck suggested that Diddohead may have been dickhead spelled incorrectly mean anything?

  6. Re:Citation Needed by beguyld · · Score: 0, Troll

    I'm encouraged that there are a few here like you which can understand that science is not a fundamentalist religion; or at least shouldn't be...

    We can't be certain what might affect biological systems at this point. Simple models of heating might very well be mostly right, but not complete. That has happened a LOT over the years in a number of fields. Newtonian physics works well enough for a most things, but some things require quantum physics to model correctly.

    I also would expect that any effects would likely be in things like cell division, as that depends on _information_ and radio signals are informational (non-random). Even at small values, they might be different enough from random background noise in the natural world that our systems don't know how to filter it out properly.

    Though it also seems clear that our own cell phones are much more likely to causes trouble than AM radio transmission, unless perhaps you live very close to a very powerful tower. (and some people do)

    As was discussed recently here, some people do physically feel the effect of cell phones on their body. I'm one of those people, so I'm certain there is an effect. Exactly what that effect is, I don't know, other than it makes me nauseous if I hold it next to my head for more than a minute or so. I just use a Bluetooth headset and don't have any problems, as long as I don't put the cell phone itself next to my head.

    But if I get that strong a reaction with a cell phone next to my head, how I do know what the effect of it being in my pocket is? Could it affect cell division? I don't know, and not a whole lot of people are motivated to find out.

    There is a huge industry based on it, with lots of lobbyists, and all of us love the convenience, so we will try to ignore it as long as we can. Just human nature....

  7. Re:Citation Needed by REALMAN · · Score: 0, Troll

    They could care less about home phones and intercoms. These types of groups are heavily infiltrated or sometimes even run by federal agents.

    The feds wanted those towers down for some reason.

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