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Exoskeletons For Rent In Japan

destinyland writes "Cyberdyne has started renting their exoskeleton body suits in Japan. The mind-controlled wearable machine increases strength and endurance, and rents for $2,300 a month. (Sensors on the skin detect traces of nerve signals from the brain, synchronizing the power suit's movements with the user's own limbs.) New video shows the suits in use on the streets of Tokyo, and the concept may be catching on. DARPA now has a program called Exoskeletons for Human Performance Augmentation 'to develop devices and machines that will increase the speed, strength and endurance of soldiers in combat environments.'"

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  1. Seriously? by RobbieCrash · · Score: 5, Funny

    Cyberdyne? HAL? Are we already this deep in the 'asking for it' business?

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  2. Worth it? by dgbrownnt · · Score: 5, Funny

    Pay apartment rent, cable, internet, car insurance, student loans, and utilities... or live in a cardboard box and be a cyborg...?

    I'm in!

    1. Re:Worth it? by macshit · · Score: 5, Funny

      I've got one argument against it: People on the street going "Ha-haa! Cripple!"

      On the other hand, you can then rip their limbs off.

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  3. Interesting Cultural Differences by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    From TFA, the exoskeleton from the Japanese is being made to help the disabled and the immobile. The US exoskeleton? It's for the soldier of tomorrow.

    Interesting priorities, that tell a lot about each culture.

  4. I hope their are occupant safty features. by kzieli · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'd hate to see what one of those things can do (to the user) if the sensors malfunction. Lets hope that the joints are desgined to not have a larger range of motion then the human wearing them.

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  5. Natural Progression Leads Where? by tnok85 · · Score: 5, Funny

    The way I see it, this has a very scary natural progression.

    Military use:
    At first, it's only used to assist in very special cases. Eventually it's perfected and every infantryman has one! Well, that's great. But one day, some 'genius' general is going to say, "Hey, what if we had the suits continue working even AFTER the soldier has died? That'll scare the bejesus out of the enemy!" And he'll get a medal, and some room full of programmers will work on making the suit controllable remotely, with simple commands that allow to act somewhat autonomously. (Stuff like... "Is the soldier dead? Okay, rush the bad guys and scare them")

    It works so well, that soon they don't even take the dead soldiers out of the suits until they start to smell pretty bad, which gives away their position. The suit would dig a grave, drop its soldier in it, and run back to base.

    Eventually that autonomy will prove so effective, they start allowing portions of it to activate even if the soldier is still alive. ("Not moving fast enough? Here, I'll help." "Hey, orders said go down this street, not that one. Let me help!" "Why aren't you shooting the small people with things shaped like grenades? Let me take care of that for you.") The soldiers will follow orders MUCH more effectively. And even if the suits walk them into death, well, the suits are more durable, and the enemy is more scared of dead walking soldiers, so... yeah.

    Corpse armies will soon become the norm, and instead of enlisted soldiers, we'll just start tossing criminals into the suits. Inevitably the criminals would disobey an order (probably given an impossible order right away) and lose 100% control, and just be slaves to the suit until they got shot in combat.

    So now we have robot zombie armies fighting each other with reckless disregard, since nobody's really getting killed anyway.

    Wow, I just had an awesome idea for a novel.

    1. Re:Natural Progression Leads Where? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Whats the idea for the novel?

  6. I think somebody is forgetting something. by Anachragnome · · Score: 5, Funny

    With the decrease in actual exercise performed while wearing one of these suits, soon everyone will be too fucking FAT to fit into them.

    And another thing...

    "Developing story! Epileptic in HAL suit has seizure on subway...18 reported dead. More at 11!"

  7. Re:Muscle atrophy? by boliboboli · · Score: 5, Interesting

    As someone who is ~30 and has 5 surgeries to date on my right knee, I'd prefer the consequences(muscle atrophy) of using using something like this to supplement my existing leg as opposed to a knee replacement. My point is, there are reasons other than laziness that some people may get excited about this technology(disabilities). Even wearing an acl brace, I can barely walk after a scrimmage with my nephew's or son's soccer team that I coach; an exoskeleton leg could keep me doing what I love for a long time w/o pain and disability.

  8. Something I couldn't quite place... by Anachragnome · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I've posted a few times in this thread in an entirely joking manner, but something I couldn't quite put my finger on has been bothering me about this whole thing. It finally struck me.

    I occasionally do a little demonstration to show how the body responds to certain stimuli. You can try it yourself. Stand in a doorway, place the outside of your wrists against the sides of the doorjamb (the door has to be open, idiot), and apply steady, yet heavy pressure outwards with both arms, as if you are trying to do a jumping-jack, but the doorjamb is preventing your arms from going all the way up. Push hard. Hold it, still applying outward pressure, for a count of 60 seconds, then step out of the doorway and just relax, with your arms hanging at your sides. Weird, huh?

    Your arms will almost immediately begin raising back into the previous position, outwards, without any intentional effort, almost as if you are in a zero-G environment.

    Astronauts experience the exact opposite of this. They do not require much effort to move around, so that when they are suddenly back on Earth, it is very difficult for them to move around. I am not talking about muscle atrophy. That takes much longer to happen. As the previous exercise demonstrates, it takes a mere 60 seconds to condition the body to changes in the environment, yet it takes just as long for it to re-adapt.

    Now imagine a soldier in the field. Blastin' away, running hither and yon, jumpin' jack flash, for hours on end, his movements amplified by this crazy borg suit. Suddenly he takes a hit in the powerpack, or it just runs outta juice in the middle of a fire-fight. So what does he do? He takes the fucking thing off, otherwise he is a deadman (or simply laying there like one).

    Here is the problem. He is so conditioned to the suit, now it is off, it takes a long time to readjust. He is STILL a sitting duck, blundering around like a 40oz drunk because his muscles/brain are still expecting the suit to be doing most of the work.

    This is a bad scenario. He is the Terminator while the battery lasts, and Erkle-the-Wonder-Geek with no body armor when it goes dead.

    I think I'd rather hump the 80lb pack around and be able to dump it (and float like a butterfly) when the shit really hit the fan.

    1. Re:Something I couldn't quite place... by mach1980 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      How about not making the feedback linear? I.e let the soldier hold 80% of the weight for small loads and 20% for heavier loads.
      Sure it would make it more difficult to differentiate the real mass of things you lift but its a small price compared to the problem you described.

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