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Bacteria Used To Make Radioactive Metals Inert

Serenissima writes "Researcher Judy Wall is experimenting with bacteria that can cleanse the radioactivity from toxic areas by rendering the heavy metals into non-toxic, inert versions. The technology is not without its flaws (the bacteria can't exist in an oxygenated environment yet), but it does have the potential to cleanse some of the world's hazardous sites. From the article: 'The bacteria Wall is studying are bio-corrosives and can change the solubility of heavy metals. They can take uranium and convert it to uraninite, a nearly insoluble substance.'"

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  1. Change the solubility of heavy metals by Yvan256 · · Score: 4, Funny

    The bacteria Wall is studying are bio-corrosives and can change the solubility of heavy metals.

    So... they can convert heavy metal into liquid metal? How long until we can buy that on iTunes?

    1. Re:Change the solubility of heavy metals by ConceptJunkie · · Score: 4, Funny

      Forget iTunes! How long before this stuff is walking around killing people and looking like Robert Patrick?!

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    2. Re:Change the solubility of heavy metals by clone53421 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Other way around... they want to make the metals insoluble so they won't contaminate water sources.

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  2. Chemically inert, they mean by Urban+Garlic · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The article is light on details, but at least it's not as dumb as it sounds. The bacteria can sequester the heavy metals into chemically inert compounds, which can then be separated mechanically ("settle to the bottom of a lake") from the environment.

    They don't appear to be claiming that they have a biological process that can change the half-life of a Plutonium atom by eating it in a clever way, though the headline-writer may have thought that.

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    1. Re:Chemically inert, they mean by hardburn · · Score: 4, Informative

      Yup, doesn't change radioactivity at all. Despite heavy metal toxicity being a far bigger problem in terms of actual, real-world pollution, it just doesn't have the attention-grabbing aspects that radiation does.

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    2. Re:Chemically inert, they mean by Ardeaem · · Score: 5, Informative

      Researchers should either write their own press releases or else not bother talking to the press at all.

      I don't think you understand how this works at all. The researchers do research. The University has people on staff that are paid to publicize research. They try to understand the research as best they can. Then, they publicize it, trying to get the research all over the place, and THEY contact the press. If you are lucky (or unlucky, actually - it is a waste of time) the press may talk to you. The researchers are often several steps away from the reporters that report on it. I say this as a researcher who had research that I did at the University of Missouri (the university in question here) publicized, so I know how this works.

      The process is pretty much completely beyond your control as a researcher. If the University wants to publicize your research, and they're going to do it regardless of what you say. You can't just not talk to your own university about your research.

    3. Re:Chemically inert, they mean by hardburn · · Score: 5, Interesting

      This might sound unfair, but it's really very simple. If a reporter comes to ask you about your research, and comes away printing something totally inaccurate or just completely wrong then that is your fault.

      Shortly after 9/11, Phil Zimmermann was interviewed about the possibility that PGP was used in planning the attacks. He carefully stated that he had no regrets, but that's not what the Washington Post ran.

      He was already very experienced with handling the press by that point. He even had the journalist read the entire article over the phone before sending it to the editor. So apparently, there is no defense against a bad editor misrepresenting something, unless you ignore the press altogether.

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  3. Re:Interesting by Brett+Buck · · Score: 4, Funny

    I think the thousands of mites already crawling around in there probably do that job. Unfortunately, you wind up with mite poop.

            Brett

  4. radioactive bacteria by pwizard2 · · Score: 4, Funny

    What happens when the radiation mutates the bacteria? Single-celled organisms mutate very easily, and we could easily have a serious problem on our hands if the bacteria turn into something that is dangerous to us and then multiply out of control.

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    1. Re:radioactive bacteria by RsG · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I have an exercise for you.

      Find me a species, mutated by radiation, that subsequently became dangerous to human beings. Anything at all. I don't care what kingdom, genus, family, what-have-you; anything from a virus to an animal. Harmless before, was mutated, now dangerous. Should be easy, with such a broad mandate - there has to be at least one example that will serve to support your point, right?

      Nope. While there are plenty of deadly lifeforms on this planet, mutation via exposure to radiation does not make them deadlier. Conversely, overuse of antibiotics (to give one example) has made bacteria deadlier, or at least harder to cure.

      "Mutation" is one of those idiot words - it has a very specific meaning in biology, one that has no resemblance to the way non-biologists habitually use it. Most mutations are detrimental to the organisms survival. The only circumstances under which this is not the case is where the mutation occurs in conjunction with selection pressure that favours the mutant. Bacteria, even parasitic ones, do not benefit from being deadly - lethality is not a survival trait for pathogens.

      You've been getting your biology from Hollywood.

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    2. Re:radioactive bacteria by Chazerizer · · Score: 5, Interesting

      You scoff at the above poster, but there are (non-lethal) mutations possible that could make these particular bacteria more dangerous to people. A single mutation causes an amino acid change in the protein that converts uranium to uranite. Now, instead of uranium, it binds phosphorus (or calcium, or ferrous ions, or whatever) because its pore size is different. Instead of removing uranium for the water, it now creates large, insoluble phosphorus deposits. Even if the remaining bacteria remove the uranium, you are still left with a completely unlivable ecosystem for micro-organisms (and higher life forms which feed on them, and so on), because basic nutrients are in extremely short supply. In essence, you've traded one barren landscape for another, and that just fails to help anyone. This isn't a terribly likely scenario. 99.999% of mutations are likely to be either fatal to the microorganisms or irrelevant. On the other hand, if a group of bacteria are exposed to 10^m photons of gamma radiation...I'm guessing at least a few beneficial, non-desirable mutations could occur. They won't turn the microbes into the blob, but they could end up causing some very non-desirable effects.

  5. For those who don't RTFA... by Brett+Buck · · Score: 5, Informative

    Of course they are not actually changing radioactive materials to non-radioactive materials - they change the compounds containing uranium to compunds that are very weakly soluble in water (instead of highly soluble), so they don't migrate easily. Very useful, but a little different from the impression I got from the summary.

          Brett

  6. Bad article title by NewbieProgrammerMan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    <science-nitpickery>

    "Bacteria Used To Make Radioactive Metals Inert" implies that the bacteria are making radioactive metals non-radioactive. A better title might be "Bacteria Used to make Poisonous Heavy Metals Inert," or "Bacteria Turn Radioactive Heavy Metals Into Chemically Inert Radioactive Stuff That Is Easier To Clean Up."

    </science-nitpickery>

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  7. Re:Interesting by Chyeld · · Score: 4, Funny

    I think the Chinese Needle Snakes can take care of that problem for you.

  8. Re:Non-Toxic inert? by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 5, Informative

    There are two main reasons that you'd be concerned about chemical properties. One is just that a fair number of exciting radioisotopes are also chemically unpleasant. The second is that the chemical properties determine, in large part, how easy it is to keep the substance contained. An insoluble and largely unreactive material will be fine even if the barrel leaks a bit. A corrosive and water soluble material will make the barrel leak a bit and then start leaching into the water table. Radiation is bad; but isolating small areas of intense radioactivity is fairly easy. Isolating large areas of modest radioactivity that has a nasty habit of getting in the drinking water and being incorporated into your bones is quite difficult.

    If a bacterial process can economically neutralize the material and induce it to stay where it is, rather than dissolving and floating around, that would make the problem smaller.

  9. Re:Non-Toxic inert? by meerling · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'm no where near an expert on this stuff, but my understanding is that the big change is a soluble nasty material is made non-soluble.

    In other words, that really nasty stuff likes to dissolve in water and spread everywhere, especially into the water table.

    They want to make it not do that, so it's in a contained area, and might even be possible to extract it, or at least stopping it from making everything within a huge area into Chernobyl Nitelights.

    I actually worked at a place that had to monitor this kind of stuff.
    Previous owners had 'disposed' of contaminated materials by buying them.
    Ironically, it wasn't the buried stuff that was the greatest risk factor to us.

    I'm sure most of you, including icebike, probably understand this, but it seemed the perfect chunk of thread to post this. :)

  10. Re:Interesting by SgtPepperKSU · · Score: 4, Funny

    And the gorillas will take care of the snakes...

    The best part: when wintertime rolls around, the gorillas simply freeze to death.

  11. Obligatory... by clone53421 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I, for one, welcome our radioactive bacteria overlords!

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  12. Re:Look out, Radioactive Man! by TheCarp · · Score: 4, Funny

    White? Please... before long your gonna have real options. White? I mean...why be white when you can be blue? or green? or red? Or.... you could have mood skin! Maybe a little glow in the dark anyone? Sure there may be a few side effects, maybe it wil destroy your liver in 3 years and make your thyroid go hypractive if you survive beyond that but.... the possibilities for matching with your ipod will never be greater.

    -Steve

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  13. Re:Radiation-immune bacteria? by Tweenk · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The public perception of radiation is the best example that humans are generally stupid, and that stupidity has to be beaten out of them using blunt instruments. The Fallout games, Hulk, Spider-Man, etc. are NOT fact-based. They do NOT depict actual effects of radiation. Those are FAIRY TALES. There is no such thing as a Chinese syndrome. The nuclear power industry is not comspiring to destroy the world. Animals do not turn into monsters when heavily irradiated, they die! People do not turn into ghouls or zombies when heavily irradiated, they die as well! Please repeat this 100 times.

    Now to answer this question, here is an example of a very radiation-resistant bacteria:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deinococcus_radiodurans

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