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Microsoft Interns Still Feel the Love

theodp writes "Despite layoffs and a blip in earnings, the Chicago Trib reports that Microsoft's summer interns still enjoy the VIP treatment. Although there were 20% fewer of them this year than last, still 85% of the interns are offered full-time jobs. In addition to being paid $4,600-$6,000 a month, a housing stipend, and relocation costs for the summer, the 600 or so Microsoft apprentices enjoyed other perks — such as a police escort to speed their way to a private museum party where they screened the most recent Harry Potter movie and were given a free Xbox 360. 'You feel like royalty to be escorted by police,' said Joriz De Guzman, an intern working toward his MBA at Wharton. BTW, before he got mixed up with those MBA-types, De Guzman earned some fame as the Doogie Howser of computer science."

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  1. Escort by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 3, Insightful

    such as a police escort to speed their way to a private museum party where they screened the most recent Harry Potter movie and were given a free Xbox 360.

    Before I get too angry, I should make sure I'm clear on something. Does this mean Microsoft paid money for people to get preferred treatment on the roads?

  2. Fixed that for you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    'You feel like a royal asshole to be escorted by police,' said Joriz De Guzman

    There, fixed that for you.

  3. Seriously?! WTF?! by Libertarian001 · · Score: 1, Insightful

    In this tough economic time, with unemployment approaching 10% (in the U.S.), let me be the first to say FUCK YOU! Seriously, guys, what the hell is the matter with you? You honestly want to brag about what you're making as an intern and that you have damn good odds of getting hired? Assholes.

  4. Re:Seriously?! WTF?! by thesandtiger · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In a world where many people have never made a phone call, where children still get polio or die from malaria, where there are some people who make less than $30 USD in a year, let me be the first to say FUCK YOU! Seriously, Libertarian001, what the hell is the matter with you? You honestly think that showing off by using the luxury of an internet connection and personal computer to bitch about other people's fortune is a good idea? Asshole.

    Perspective, it's what's for dinner.

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  5. This is common by zogger · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Look at what they do for professional sports stadiums every weekend. Heck, look downstream from there,at how much public property tax money is used across the nation to brainwash little kids and get them addicted and operate those same pro sports farm teams in the public school system (which is all they are, subsidized farm teams).

    If you got the cash and "the juice", what is public can become private *real quick*.

  6. Re:Seriously?! WTF?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Butthurt much?

    Hate Microsoft all you want, but they're giving people high paying jobs during a tough economy. That's more than Comrade Obama's been able to do with his trillion dollar "stimulus" plan.

    If you don't like it, feel free to stop buying Microsoft and STFU.

  7. OK, let's talk perspective... by IANAAC · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Perspective, it's what's for dinner.

    $4500-$6000 a month is a LOT of coin for pretty much most of the country not containing coastline.

    Truthfully, this is real news to me, I never heard of interns making that kind of money. In this economy - and yes, I'm talking about the US - it just seems... absurd.

    1. Re:OK, let's talk perspective... by IANAAC · · Score: 2, Insightful
      If rickkw is only exposed to the west coast, it's understandable. I lived in SF for close to 20 years and moved back to the midwest only 5 years ago.

      I had completely forgotten about the disparity in cost of living. When it's all you know, it's hard to imagine anything else.

    2. Re:OK, let's talk perspective... by Stiletto · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I don't disagree that it's a lot of money for an intern to make, but that doesn't really justify screeching at them for it.

      It IS an almost unreasonable amount of money for an intern, but you're right--we shouldn't be screeching at them. We should be screeching at our own employers.

      If the economy wasn't so bad, I bet there would be a lot of printouts of this article nailed to manager's doors come Monday morning. These kids with no credentials and little professional track record are out-earning a lot of us smart middle-career professionals.

    3. Re:OK, let's talk perspective... by AtOMiCNebula · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The work Microsoft interns do is along the same lines as what a standard developer does, aside from the fact that they have to ramp-up on the product and finish their project all within 12 weeks. What I'm trying to say is that while an intern obviously can't do as much as a normal FTE could in the same time period, as they have to learn along the way, they still do very real work. Interns certainly aren't coffee grabbers or paper filers, unless, of course, they're grabbing coffee for themselves.

      The idea behind the program is that an intern is a potential new full-time hire, but because they're not ready to work full time (as in, they still have a year or two of college to complete), then Microsoft tests the water with us. They get a fair amount of work out of their interns, and the interns ramp up on a product at a rate that's ~80% of what they'd pay an FTE. If interns choose to return, then theoreticially, they've completed their ramp-up work already and hit the ground running.

      Disclaimer: I was a Microsoft intern this past summer.

  8. Keeping the Microsoft hate alive. by Kenz0r · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If this were Google, most of you'd be praising them, for being such a great employer.

    How about we judge a software company by their software and business ethics, there's plenty of things to dislike Microsoft for in those departments...

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    1. Re:Keeping the Microsoft hate alive. by minsk · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Have to voice agreement on that. Microsoft puts a lot of effort into attracting excellent developers and trying to keep them happy. The developers and front-line managers I've talked to struck me as a decent, and I know more than a few people who have settled in there.

      There are lots of reasons to rip on MS and their products... but I'm not seeing good treatment of good interns as one of those.

  9. Re:Seriously?! WTF?! by grcumb · · Score: 1, Insightful

    In a world where many people have never made a phone call, where children still get polio or die from malaria, where there are some people who make less than $30 USD in a year, let me be the first to say FUCK YOU! Seriously, Libertarian001, what the hell is the matter with you? You honestly think that showing off by using the luxury of an internet connection and personal computer to bitch about other people's fortune is a good idea? Asshole.

    Greetings from the Developing World. On behalf of a couple of billion of my closest confrères, allow me to say: Shut the fuck up.

    Using the luxury of an Internet connection to bitch about other people's fortunes - especially the ones they get by profiting from others' misery - is what we all aspire to. In my part of the world, the knowledge that some Ritchie Rich is being inducted into the entitlement regime that is modern-day corporate capitalism with lavish salaries and police escorts to exclusive events.... Well, let's just say it has a remarkably salutary effect.

    You see, we recognise this kind of behaviour instantly - about the only time you ever hear a police siren in my town is when some dignitary is getting whisked to or from the airport. So when the convoy of buses goes by on its way to see 'Aripota' (as the Junior Wizard is known here), we know exactly who's in them.

    They're the very same young professionals who will be whisked into town to meet with our ministers of education and telecommunications to negotiate wonderful deals ensuring that, for decades to come, there will always be an adequate supply of malarial people without telephones, for whom 'Aripota' is nothing more than a rumour.

    Perspective, it's what's for dinner.

    Yeah, it sure is. Let me know when you get some.

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  10. Re:Please tell me you weren't an English major by NoYob · · Score: 2, Insightful
    ...rather than just pulling junk numbers out of your ass..

    Perhaps he majored in political science? That would explain the numbers.

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  11. Pretty standard. by MrCrassic · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's usually the bigger companies that offer these perks for their interns. That and the high pay they receive are usually the incentives for students to work kind of hard to get a spot in one of these programs...

    Hence, it's no surprise that because these companies are bigger, there would be an increased risk of dealing with crappy managers and boring dead-end work. Overall, the people I know that have worked in such companies were usually happy with their expereinces...

  12. Renting police and public streets by Restil · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Ever see a carnival that takes in several city streets and blocks traffic for the duration? It depends on the city, but most cities will, for the right price, allow companies, or even private citizens to purchase the rights to have exclusive control over specific public facilities or resources for a short period of time. It's usually not cost effective to do so, and you're therefore not likely to see a great deal of it. The only example I know of with real numbers would be the First Saturday sale in Dallas, TX. I don't even know if it's still there, but back in the mid 90's when I was a vendor there for a few months, I asked about it. For a few public parking lots and to block one street in Dallas on a Saturday, they paid $5000 for a 24 hour permit.
    And yes, you can rent cops.. in uniforms... with cars, for pretty much anything you want.

    The real question isn't how they could do such a thing, but why they would even bother. I never thought of a group of interns going to a Harry Potter movie as being an event worthy of a police escort, let alone requiring one.

    -Restil

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  13. Definitely not Apple by lucm · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Good money, plenty of perks... this is not the Apple way.

    A few years ago the company was on the brink of disaster and made huge salary cuts. Now they are making sh*tloads of money, thanks to the iPod and iPhone, but the salaries are still low. Last year, Techcrunch published data pulled from Glassdoor.com, showing that Apple engineers are paid 15-20% less than their counterparts at Google, Microsoft and Yahoo.

    Some food for thought: who made more money at Microsoft? Steve Ballmer or Bill Gates? and who made more money at Apple? Steve Jobs or Steve Wozniak? Engineers always have been a commodities for Apple.

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  14. Woosh... by carp3_noct3m · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If the parent douchebag would have read what the person hes aiming this at was talking to, he would have realized it was sarcasm to point out the others idiocy... talk about woosh...

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