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Surprise Discovery In Earth's Upper Atmosphere

elyons sends word out of UCLA of a completely unexpected discovery in the physics of the Sun-Earth interaction — a previously unknown basic mode of energy transfer from the solar wind to the Earth's magnetosphere. "'It's like something else is heating the atmosphere besides the sun. This discovery is like finding it got hotter when the sun went down,' said Larry Lyons, UCLA professor of atmospheric and oceanic sciences. 'We all have thought for our entire careers — I learned it as a graduate student — that this energy transfer rate is primarily controlled by the direction of the interplanetary magnetic field. The closer to southward-pointing the magnetic field is, the stronger the energy transfer rate is, and the stronger the magnetic field is in that direction. [It turns out that] if it is both southward and big, the energy transfer rate is even bigger.'" The researchers have two papers on the discovery coming out in the Journal of Geophysical Research.

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  1. anti-solar prejuices, prior neglect by harvey+the+nerd · · Score: 0, Troll

    Sounds like another shoe drops in the solar - terrestial interactions with regard to global warming and climate change. Why wasn't this found 20 years ago? Because IPCC and NASA haven't been diligently working a major term, the many solar-terrestial interactions, in the general energy equation? Because they are happy worshipping simplistic false models that say "Send academia, modelers and autocrats more money"?

    1. Re:anti-solar prejuices, prior neglect by OeLeWaPpErKe · · Score: 0, Troll

      It's obvious that there are very serious conflicts of intrest in GW and AGW research.

      The primary sponsor of all (A)GW research is the IPCC.

      The only reason the IPCC gets money is (A)GW.

      Every kid can tell you what is bound to happen next. Obviously the IPCC has been caught several times making propaganda by spreading lies it's own scientists don't agree with (most famous the hokey stick graph). This "somehow" keeps happening, and even today you can find that graph in IPCC materials.

      How much do we bet that next month "IPCC scientists find that GW is even worse than thought today" ?

  2. Re:Surprise! Discovery In Earth's Upper Atmosphere by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Okay so when I first saw the title, I read it as "Surprise! Discovery In Earth's Upper Atmosphere" and thought the landing a couple of days ago was a hoax or something.

    No, it's Columbia and maybe still a little bit of Challenger that are in the upper atmosphere. Oh, I'm going to burn in hell for making this joke...

  3. I just dropped a deuce by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    It's an unfortunate inevitability of life -- everybody poops. And
    while this task can occasionally provide us with an opportunity to
    relax or engage in some deep thinking, there are other instances when
    this basic undertaking becomes a chore no person should have to
    endure. Whether or not these stooling sessions can be tolerated, is
    often determined by one single factor: where it is taking place? If
    you're alone in the privacy of your own home, why not make an hour of
    it and get some reading in? However, if you're at work with your boss
    sitting in the adjacent stall, you'd better hold off on dropping
    anything for fear of creating an embarrassing splash. With that in
    mind though, things could be worse, and here are eight examples of how
    much worse..

    8-The Wilderness Toilet

    This is essentially taking a #2 in a wall-less bathroom. Sure,
    you're in a pretty remote location, but it's not so remote that they
    haven't needed to accommodate other people with full bowels. At any
    second, some fellow hiker could round that nearby group of trees and
    put an eyeball on you while you prepare to release yesterday's granola
    bar. It's also safe to assume that since this toilet is on a path
    intended for people who want to get away from the hectic bustle of
    society, that same society's emphasis on cleanliness and sterile
    toilets is far removed as well. And since the act of pooping leaves
    man at nearly his most helpless, this would seem like the ideal time
    for a voracious wild animal to attack. So, not only is this an
    uncomfortable practice, but it's a dangerous one as well.

    7-School

    Kids can be merciless. They will go to great measures to find any
    points of weakness in their unfortunate victims, and to a youth,
    finding out that someone has been pooping presents an incredible
    opportunity for ridicule. Yet, at times your body requires you to crap
    at these academic establishments, and so you are immediately presented
    with the impossible task of somehow taking an undetectable dump, or
    completely leaving school. If you excuse yourself from class, the time
    you spend in the bathroom will surely be recorded by your callous
    peers, and upon return, you will be thoroughly mocked. If you try and
    poop in between class, you'll be too worried about the possibility of
    being tardy, and you'll probably pinch it off before you're completely
    done. And even if you muster up the courage to attempt this risky
    procedure, there's always the risk of someone walking in and berating
    you while you take part in what should be one of mankind's most
    private moments. So please children, let each other poop in peace.

    6-Your New Girlfriend/Boyfriend's House

    Let's say you're about to leave your newly-acquired significant
    other's residence after your first sleep over, when nature suddenly
    decides this would be the perfect moment to defecate. Maybe it's the
    nerves after a night of apprehensive tongue-kissing and heavy petting,
    or maybe it's the three-bean taco salad you ate prior to the
    caressing, but whatever the case, your body's telling you it needs to
    be relieved immediately. Now the bathroom in this situation is
    certainly not the problem; it's clean, and probably provides some sort
    of reading material. The problem is what will happen to this new and
    delicate relationship once the odorous evidence of your actions hits
    the air. There may be an air-freshener, or perhaps you're carrying
    some matches, but that will only mask the smell, and the psychological
    damage of having your body demonstrate what it's like at its most foul
    will forever remain in the nostrils of their brain. This will
    permanently change how your significant other looks at you.

    5-The Port-a-Potty

    Here's what the Port-a-Potty brings to waste elimination sessions:
    One--They're typically found in unfamiliar, public locations that can
    make an already-taxing exercise more stres

  4. Re:Misleading interpretation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    more than a little disingenuous

    Disingenuousness in Global Warming research (sorry I mean Global Warming agitprop)?

    I'm shocked.

    http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=1511/
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/7037671.stm/
    http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=2898/
    http://www.skepticalscience.com/broken-hockey-stick.htm/

    Gore showed me a scary graph in a film and I believe him and that's all that matters.

  5. Hummer Humbug by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    Hello, hello, hello. After how much time some REAL Science - and not GreenPeace fictions about Hummers warming the Earth. Not that I think anyone has any sane reason to own or operate such a behemoth. All this "Global Warming" is 100% B.S. run by politicos for their own unlisted agendas.

  6. Re:Or by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    They entered the field because they were HIPPIES. Before them, there was no "climate change" science. Back then the lie was "nuclear winter" all over the place, and they needed something resembling a social science to spread propaganda. The scam of Climate Change works because the tricked people are different every time, because a sucker is born every second. That's the reason things like the Disney movies keep working. But in a few years, there will no be people left that knows that the field is just bullshit originally created to satisfy a political agenda. That's why it's very important to discredit all their field now that there are still people that remembers how they came to be.

    There has never been interest in science in that field. They are not even sciencists, and they keep using extrapolation with bad data to keep frightening people and get money from the taxpayers.

  7. Re:Can Its Power Be Tapped? by Oflife · · Score: -1, Troll

    No, big oil and any remaining loyal neocons would arrange for them to be shot down or suffer some other inexplicable misfortune.

  8. Re:Or by sumdumass · · Score: 0, Troll

    The science is on his side as long as it's settled and no new discoveries are made. Obviously this isn't happening as his own statements indicates he wished.

    The pseudoscience in a lot of cases is clear science questioning the calculations being pushed by the global warming alarmist. Your just too biased to see that and use pseudoscience as an escape. In fact, the pseudoscience is has been claiming an interaction between the warmth of the atmosphere and solar evens since the 1990's. This discovery just shows how inadequacy our understanding was and how dismissive people like you are.