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Snow Leopard Missed a Security Opportunity

CWmike writes "Apple missed a golden opportunity to lock down Snow Leopard when it again failed to implement fully a security technology that Microsoft perfected nearly three years ago in Windows Vista, noted Mac researcher Charlie Miller said today. Dubbed ASLR, for address space layout randomization, the technology randomly assigns data to memory to make it tougher for attackers to determine the location of critical operating system functions, and thus makes it harder for them to craft reliable exploits. 'Apple didn't change anything,' said Miller, of Independent Security Evaluators, the co-author of The Mac Hacker's Handbook, and winner of two consecutive 'Pwn2own' hacker contests. 'It's the exact same ASLR as in Leopard, which means it's not very good.'"

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  1. Two week old "news" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    The summary alleges Miller said it "today". Except he didn't.

    The article linked to is dated September 14, which means he allegedly said it 2 days ago. Except he didn't.

    He actually said it *two weeks ago* on August 29th.

    Wake up, editors!

  2. Justified praise by Chrisq · · Score: 4, Informative
    From Address space layout randomization:

    Microsoft's Windows Vista and Windows Server 2008 have ASLR enabled by default, although only for those executables and dynamic link libraries specifically linked to be ASLR-enabled.[citation needed] This did not include Internet Explorer 7 on Windows Vista prior to Service Pack 1; ASLR and DEP are both disabled for application compatibility purposes. Newer versions, including Internet Explorer 8, enable these protections. A registry setting is available to forcibly enable or disable ASLR for all executables and libraries. The locations of the heap, stack, Process Environment Block, and Thread Environment Block are also randomized. A security whitepaper from Symantec noted that ASLR in 32-bit Windows Vista may not be as robust as expected, and Microsoft has acknowledged a weakness in its implementation.

    It appears that only OpenBDD and some hardened Linuxes (not mainstream distributions) have a complete implementation.

  3. Re:Oops by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative


    "Microsoft perfected nearly three years ago"

    OpenBSD has had this for many, many years. Microsoft used the OpenBSD code as a starting point for their own product. Love the BSD license!

  4. Re:Intellectual Property by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    OpenBSD has been using these techniques a lot longer than Microsoft has, so I suspect that there is not (yet) an issue of patents to be licensed.

  5. Re:Surely this is only of any use to a hacker if . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    ASLR makes executing code on the stack quite a bit more difficult, regardless of what privileges the program being exploited may have. Also makes calling libaray functions and pretty much anything in RAM far more difficult for a hacker. Page protection doesn't protect against these attacks per se.

  6. Re:Here they come... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    1. You identify a system API that has a local escalation vulnerability. These aren't that uncommon and because they cannot be directly exploited remotely they're not generally as high of a priority.

    2. You identify a vulnerability in a service or other application that permits execution of arbitrary code remotely.

    3. You exploit the remotely exploitable vulnerability with a payload that calls into the known mapped address of the system API with a second payload in order to escalate to root and then execute a third payload with those increased privileges to outright p0wn the machine.

  7. Re:Microsoft technology? Really? by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Informative

    Linux's implementation of ASLR is substantially inferior to Windows Vista/7's, which was covered the FIRST time this guy won the pwn2own contest. However, it is far superior to OSX's, which appears to not really do anything useful, and which appears to have not even changed since it was discovered that OSX ASLR is useless. Please try to keep up, or don't comment. Thank you.

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  8. Not at All "Perfected" by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 5, Informative

    technology that Microsoft perfected nearly three years ago

    If there's a phrase that should trigger skepticism, that's it. ASLR isn't "perfect", and has been reported (and confirmed) exploited as recently as 7 months ago:

    March 24, 2009 -

            quote:Internet Explorer 8 "critical" flaw in final version

            Microsoft confirmed that the vulnerability exists in the official release, said Terri Forslof, a researcher at TippingPoint, which sponsored the Pwn2Own contest that challenged competitors to find bugs in either web browsers or mobile devices

            "This is a single-click-and-you're-owned exploit," she told SCMagazineUS.com on Tuesday. "You click a link in an email or simply browse to a website, and your machine is compromised. This meets Microsoft's 'critical' bar [in its vulnerabilities and rating system]."

            The exploit apparently defies Microsoft's DEP (Data Execution Prevention) and ASLR (Address Space Layout Randomization) technologies -- two features added to IE8 to prevent memory corruption vulnerabilities.

            "Once the browser was compromised, we handed over the exploit to Microsoft immediately, on site," Forslof said. "They went back and reproduced it and called to verify that the vulnerability was present. We retested again on the released version of IE8 that went live on the following morning and verified that the vulnerability was in it as well."

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  9. Re:Oops by supernova_hq · · Score: 3, Informative

    Praise for MS by kdawson.

    There fixed that for you.

  10. Microsoft perfected ASLR ? by viralMeme · · Score: 4, Informative

    "Apple .. failed to implement fully a security technology that Microsoft perfected nearly three years ago in Windows Vista"

    Address space layout randomization is a technique to randomize memory addresses of the base of the code, stack, heap, and libraries. First used by PaX and OpenBSD

  11. Re:Surely this is only of any use to a hacker if . by incripshin · · Score: 3, Informative

    Tagging doesn't work for me anymore, so I picked the post with the most use of the word 'obscurity'.

    This is not security through obscurity (STO). STO can always be exploited when you know how the algorithm works. Address space randomization cannot be exploited (immediately). You still have to start the executable maybe hundreds of times before the exploit works. This is easy if it's some short piece of code you've crafted yourself, but with real applications, it's not so simple.

    Imagine a hack where you send some exploit to somebody over IM. If it doesn't work, the IM client *will* crash as it tried to execute some random portion of memory. How are you going to try your exploit at a different address now?

  12. Re:It doesnt matter... by brkello · · Score: 3, Informative

    Huh, your post makes it seem like you know what you are talking about but I don't really think you do. There are multiple ways to exploit OS's. Just having privilege escalation doesn't solve every security problem. ASLR is a technique that addresses a specific vulnerability that allows you to get arbitrary code execution. This is just one of many techniques to gain root and ASLR (as far as I know) is the most effective way of addressing this issue. There are some issues with it but it isn't really a performance thing, more of a compatability thing and being used uniformly by the applications.

    Should Apple implement it? If they want to be secure, then yes.

    Quite frankly, Macs are more secure against certain classes of attacks. Making a global statement about it being more secure is wrong, though. Macs enjoy being less of a target since they are a small number of them out there. To think they are safe is pretty naive. The guy has proved multiple times he can hack them without much trouble.

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