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Transforming Waste Plastic Into $10/Barrel Fuel

Mike writes "Today Washington DC-based company Envion opened a $5 million dollar facility that they claim will be able to efficiently transform plastic waste into a source of oil-like fuel. The technology uses infra-red energy to remove hydrocarbons from plastic without the use of a catalyst, transforming 82% of the original plastic material into fuel. According to Envion, the resulting fuel can then be blended with other components, providing a source for gasoline or diesel at as low as $10 per barrel."

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  1. What can you actually do with 5Mil by cs668 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    That just doesn't seem like it will build much of a "facility"

  2. Can we put one of these factories on a ship? by reezle · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I've been thinking of something like this factory, on a boat equipped with fishing nets processing the Great Pacific Garbage Patch.
    Wonder how much oil is in there?

    1. Re:Can we put one of these factories on a ship? by TooMuchToDo · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Great minds yo. Take an oil tanker, go process all that plastic in the ocean, come back and sell the product. Profit and environmental cleanup FTW

    2. Re:Can we put one of these factories on a ship? by Tubal-Cain · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I saw a Pen & Teller "Bullshit" episode yesterday about dolphins being more intelligent than humans.

      1. Nutria (GP) never said anything about the intelligence of dolphins relative to humans
      2. Your post is the first hint I've come accross that someone thinks dolphins might not be in second place.
  3. I also saw this with great skepticism, but... by spinach+and+eggs · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ...the key part of TFA for me was:

    We'll find out soon whether Envion's process works as well as the company claims --- the $5 million inaugural plastic-to-fuel plant opened today in Washington, DC, and an undisclosed company has already agreed to buy Envion's product to blend into vehicle fuel.

    So yes, we'll find out soon, I guess.

  4. Re:Pyrolysis by Smidge204 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Flash point isn't a problem in an inert atmosphere.

    Various technologies have been around to do this; the problem has always been scale and water consumption.

    Hope these guys get somewhere with the process, and I hope the process is indifferent to the type of plastic involved. The wide variety of plastics used has always been a major problem for plastics recycling.

    Of course, you're still left with a nasty sludge - plastic contains non-hydrocarbon chemicals - and this is not a replacement for petroleum since the plastics were made from petroleum to begin with. But! This may make "mining" landfills a more interesting proposition... now you can get methane, various metals (in relatively pure form) AND liquid fuels from old landfills.
    =Smidge=

  5. Re:Pyrolysis by jcr · · Score: 1, Interesting

    If you heat plastic enough - it decomposes into base hydrocarbons.

    I wonder if the process is conducive to using solar heat?

    -jcr

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  6. oil from tires by night_flyer · · Score: 2, Interesting

    what ever happened with that technology?

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  7. $10 plus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Interesting

    $10 + $400 in government subsidies

  8. Plastic Sludge by Nick+Driver · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The sludge would still be mostly hydrocarbons, just heavier stuff. It might be useful for putting into road paving asphalt.

    1. Re:Plastic Sludge by jbezorg · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The sludge would still be mostly hydrocarbons, just heavier stuff. It might be useful for putting into road paving asphalt.

      Or making plastic....

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  9. Not Recycling by Mishotaki · · Score: 2, Interesting

    So instead of reusing the plastic, they are burning it off to make oil.... i really don't see how that is good, i'd rather see them separate that plastic to reuse it instead of separating the plastic to burn it off to make oil...

  10. Re:Remove Hydrocarbons from Plastic???!!!! by icebike · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Think of landfills as caches for the future.

    The size of landfills are starting to attract attention of the metals recycling industry. There are concerns about reopening these landfills due to poor record keeping in the past; not knowing exactly what is down there.

    But the plastic glass and metal will still be there when the econemic conditions are right for mining these places.

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  11. Re:Remove Hydrocarbons from Plastic???!!!! by wvmarle · · Score: 3, Interesting

    On the envion.com web site, PVC is mentioned as one of the major components of their feed stock. This indeed surprised me, you are right, the chlorine is an issue. If burned it may produce dioxins (very very poisonous stuff), or hydrochloric acid that wreaks havoc on any metal parts it comes in contact with, such as the internals of your engine.

    Either they have a way to remove the chlorine later, or they take care of it in another way - this is not mentioned on the web site. At least I couldn't find it. If there is really chlorine in the product then I'd not want to use it at all. And I also doubt it could pass any environmental standards when used in engines due to the dioxin problem.

  12. Re:Remove Hydrocarbons from Plastic???!!!! by tmosley · · Score: 2, Interesting

    By your logic, oil refineries also operate on pixie dust.

    Luckily, DOW has a full team of imagineers on staff, or this whole oil based economy wouldn't exist.