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Secret GPS Tracking Now Legal In Massachusetts

dr. fuzz writes "The Supreme Judicial Court of Massachusetts has ruled in favor of John Law tracking you with secret GPS devices in Massachusetts provided a warrant is obtained. You've been warned. To the dissenters' credit, Justice Ralph Gants is quoted with 'Our constitutional analysis should focus on the privacy interest at risk from contemporaneous GPS monitoring, not simply the property interest.'"

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  1. Where is the controversy? by jmorris42 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Requires court order. Who has a problem with that? With a court order you can tap phones, plant bugs, install keystroke loggers, just about anything. Seems kinda daft to be maming a fuss about putting a GPS on somebody's car, hell just use the court order to get the cell company to give a feed from their phone.

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    1. Re:Where is the controversy? by locallyunscene · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Don't worry, we can manufacture all the controversy we need with this story. In truth, it's the perfect /. article. It references Massachusetts in a negative light so someone can make a snide comment about the MIT student who walked into the airport with a circuit board on her chest, or the Mooninite advertising stunt, or even that NDA/tech company comparison between California and Massachusetts article from a couple of weeks ago. Then someone else can link the actual articles and, boom, 6 plus five insightful/informative comments right there.

      It talks about police and wiretapping so we'll get plenty of paranoid theories and the resulting jokes. Plus we're guaranteed a mangled Ben Franklin quote.

      It directly mentions the constitution so we might even get the lingering Ron Paul supporter! I've missed those guys.

    2. Re:Where is the controversy? by hardburn · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Which is an inherent problem with expanding the powers of the executive branch. Even if there's a lot of complaining about it at the time, there's not much incentive for the next guy to back out of those powers once they've been established. There was lots of complaining from some Republicans when Clinton made the FISA court into a rubber-stamping operation after Oklahoma City, but then they ignored FISA entirely after 9/11.

      More on topic, I don't see much problem with giving the police broad crime fighting powers, provided there is proper oversight for abuse. A good warrant system can do that, and need not be much of a time burden if the right procedures are in place. But there better be something. Even the rubber-stamping FISA court at least created a paper trail.

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    3. Re:Where is the controversy? by swanzilla · · Score: 5, Informative

      Call me a troll, but I'd like to remind everyone that what W started, the O is continuing...

      I won't call you a troll, but I'll remind you that neither Bush nor Obama had any hand in composing the Massachusetts Declaration of Rights, which spelled out what was considered unreasonable search and seizure. The appointing of Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court members is also completely independant of the Executive Branch.

    4. Re:Where is the controversy? by Darkness404 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It relies on the flawed argument that a tiny GPS == car == you. With a wiretap you can more or less figure out if it is a different person on the phone. Same with bugs. How many times do we let someone else drive our car? Yeah, it might be someone we trust (spouse, family member, close friend) but they are still driving your car. Cars also are pretty easy to steal. And the GPS receiver is small enough that it can be removed and placed on a different car.

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    5. Re:Where is the controversy? by Alarindris · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Who said there was a controversy?

    6. Re:Where is the controversy? by Boomerang+Fish · · Score: 4, Informative

      The real problems happen when, as in the case of Professor Gates, police ignore the requirement for a warrant and just ram their way into homes/car where they don't belong. (Oh and no a phone call is not probable cause according to the supreme court.)

      OK, I'm probably gonna lose karma for this, but...

      According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Louis_Gates_arrest_incident (and yes I know how flawed Wikipedia can be, but it does seem to fit with what I remember in articles from the time and I don't feel like digging further), The police met Gates at his door and indicated that they were investigating a possible breaking and entering. When asked for ID, Gates entered his house AND LEFT HIS DOOR OPEN so the officer followed.

      Now, IANAL, but if my memory serves from what I've read (and no, I don't want to look it up right now, I'm avoiding work and don't have much time...)
                (1) Not officially requesting a warrant or explicitly requesting that the officer wait outside DOES give them permission to follow you into your house, especially if you leave the door open.
                (2) If a crime is suspected to be in progress, a warrant is not required, though it might result in censure of the officer if they can't properly justify it later.

      Now, a possible breaking and entering, a door with obvious damage, and a man who is leaving the officers sight because he "needs to get his ID" is suspicious enough that I suspect that point 2 would be enough.

      As to who said what to whom and was it racial blah blah blah... I haven't commented on that. I'm only saying that the observable facts suggest that the officer had reasonable justification to proceed without a warrant, at least until identification was provided.

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    7. Re:Where is the controversy? by Evil+Shabazz · · Score: 3, Funny

      Just because a person leaves a door open (whether a house or car) does not mean the government can enter the property without a warrant.

      Sure it does. Don't you watch Law & Order?! 0.o

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    8. Re:Where is the controversy? by Obfuscant · · Score: 4, Insightful
      It's an unconstitutional search.

      Had it been a search, it would have been unconstitutional.

      It wasn't, and you repeating it ad-nauseum doesn't make it so. It was a police officer investigating a reported crime following the suspect. The suspect met the officer at the door and then walked away, back into the scene of the alleged crime.

      If you owned a business and a police officer found an open door at 2AM, you'd feel pretty good if he entered the premises and caught the guy prying your cash register open, yes? Or should the cop think "nothing suspicious here, I'll just move along"?

      If someone was breaking into my house and the cops showed up, met the guy at the door, and then didn't bother following him because he went back inside my house, I'd be REALLY PISSED -- at the cops. If the guy got away because he slipped out the back before reinforcements arrived, I'd be REALLY REALLY pissed at the cops.

      And if the suspect went back into the house to retrieve a gun so he could shoot the cop, you'd probably be dancing in the streets that yet another jack-booted thug was put down, huh? Hate to break your bubble, but the courts have consistently supported the right of the cops to frisk a suspect for the purpose of ensuring their own safety. Following the suspect through an open door as he walks back into the scene of a reported crime to ensure their own safety is not beyond the pale.

    9. Re:Where is the controversy? by orangesquid · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Maybe every time police acquire evidence through means the regular public could not do, they have to mention it to that person within six months. That person has the ability to file a complaint, not with the same police department (since people might worry about complaining to the same group of people that was watching them---quite understandably), but perhaps to an independent office whose actions have to be transparent by law (and are regularly checked up on by a significant and random (reappointed every 3 months, for example; not a long time period like some organizations are re-appointed) portion Congress, not by a commitee). Statistics about the complaints filed would, by law, be available to anyone by phone call, website, or snail-mail, so the public would be able to fully assess whether the random group of Congress members, studying the actions of police departments gathering substantial evidence, would be able to raise their voice if the group was ignoring complaints for some departments, etc.

      This is something taxpayer dollars ought to be paying for; we pay for law enforcement, so we should pay for its oversight (not by raising tax dollars, though, since that would be arguably unfair).

      If someone knows of a system that does this sort of thing already (besides the courts; it's ridiculous to expect someone to pay $500 for a lawyer's time just to raise a minor complaint), and has vast public oversight, I'd be happy to know...

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    10. Re:Where is the controversy? by Shakrai · · Score: 3, Informative

      Yeah. Bill Clinton was totally different than GWB. He never would have signed stupid laws that took away our rights or called for regime change in Iraq.

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  2. GPS Blocking by JDeane · · Score: 4, Informative

    I guess if its too much of a problem you could buy one of these things.... http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.8758 at a little under 27 USD with no taxes and no shipping I imagine its cheaper then the tracking device.

    1. Re:GPS Blocking by Locke2005 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Where can I sign up to become the exclusive Oregon dealer for these GPS blockers? If they pass the mileage-based vehicle tax, I'm gonna be rich!!!

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  3. To be fair... by KingSkippus · · Score: 5, Informative

    The Supreme Judicial Court of Massachusetts has ruled in favor of John Law tracking you with secret GPS devices in Massachusetts provided a warrant is obtained.

    To be fair, that's a lot better than in Wisconsin, where they use secret GPS devices to track you without a warrant.

    1. Re:To be fair... by ShadowRangerRIT · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Exactly. The Massachusetts decision makes sense: If you can show probable cause, you can intrude upon a person's privacy, but *only* if you show probable cause. Wisconsin decided that privacy is subordinate to police effectiveness. Problem is, you follow that track too far and you end up with a police state and no rights to speak of. The police don't *intend* to violate your rights, they simply do whatever is allowable to uphold their mandate (keeping the peace). If you don't restrict the range of allowable activities, and they can use technology to supplement their numbers, upholding their mandate most effectively requires them to scan every phone call, track every car, open all mail, etc.

      Technology allows quantitative differences to become qualitative differences: Police can already tail anyone on a public street. But limited numbers mean they are only able to do so for a small number of people, so they tend to have good reasons when they do tail. But if you can track every car effortlessly and keep a database of movements, you can go on fishing expeditions. Someone dumped a body on the side of a highway? Quick, pull up the logs and find every person who passed that stretch of highway recently. Then demand DNA and fingerprint samples from all of them (assuming you haven't already collected them). It's effective, at the cost of invading everyone's privacy.

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  4. Jammers by vmxeo · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Suddenly I foresee these becoming much more popular, and then much less legal (if they even are to begin with).

    1. Re:Jammers by westlake · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The jammer is a big red arrow that points straight at you. That sort of defeats the purpose if you want to remain inconspicuous.

  5. The cops need a warrant... where is the problem? by sirwired · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Slashdot News Flash! If the cops obtain a warrant, they can do stuff they can't do otherwise!

    Personally, I don't even think a warrant should be necessary, but MA has gone above and beyond here and required one. If your house can be searched, your phone tapped, your DNA scanned, your financial records checked, etc., with a warrant, why not a tracking device on your car?

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  6. Here's the problem by mariox19 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Advocates of this sort of thing say it is like having a police officer tail a person of interest. I'm sorry but it is not at all like that.

    Prior to tracking by GPS, if the police wanted to track someone, they had to assign an officer, or multiple officers, to track him. This is the world we lived with, and this world is the context in which we reasoned about whether or not cops should be allowed to tail someone. I'm sure there was very little debate, if any, but that was because the scarcity of police relative to the population was a limit as to how many people the police could tail. It did not occur to us that the police would start tailing everybody, or even very many people. It was simply unimaginable that they would have the resources to invade the public's privacy

    With the advent of GPS, we are now in a completely different economic-political context requiring that we must reconsider the issue and not simply continue right along with the policies put in place in a different world.

    Where once police had to carefully consider whether or not it was worth the expenditure of their limited manpower to tail a person, they now no longer have to. Where once privacy protections were taken for granted by the very nature of what tailing people required, they can no longer be. It is reasonable to consider the possibility that GPS tracking could become widespread for all sorts of issues that would be considered minor, today. The police, as the costs of such tracking drop, will ask themselves "Why not?" The cost to society will be an enormous loss of privacy.

    Don't let anyone try to tell you that there is no privacy issue because cops already tail people.

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  7. Re:How hard would it be to detect by raddan · · Score: 3, Funny

    Fortunately, in Massachusetts, we all ride bicycles. I think they put it on the handlebars or something.

  8. Re:How hard would it be to detect by rubycodez · · Score: 3, Funny

    guess again, sales of Preparation H(tm) were up 8% in Massachusetts last month and nitrile gloves 10%. they probe and plant while you sleep

  9. Mangled Ben Franklin Quote by Tetsujin · · Score: 4, Funny

    It talks about police and wiretapping so we'll get plenty of paranoid theories and the resulting jokes. Plus we're guaranteed a mangled Ben Franklin quote.

    Ooh, ooh, I got one!

    "I am BEN FRANKLIN, master of SEX and VOODOO!"

    I'm not sure if it's exactly relevant to this discussion, though...

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    1. Re:Mangled Ben Franklin Quote by wsanders · · Score: 4, Funny

      >> "I am BEN FRANKLIN, master of SEX and VOODOO!"

      According to the latest Dan Brown book, you're probably correct.

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  10. Re:The cops need a warrant... where is the problem by Tetsujin · · Score: 4, Funny

    Slashdot News Flash! If the cops obtain a warrant, they can do stuff they can't do otherwise!

    Yeah, it's like when Pacman eats the big dot...

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  11. Re:The cops need a warrant... where is the problem by nizo · · Score: 4, Funny

    Or if we use a car analogy, they could attach a gps tracker to your car while you aren't looking.

  12. Warrants for Police by mlund · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think it is absolutely critical to distinguish between a warrant-based system for Evidence Gathering by Law Enforcement and a system of Intelligence Gathering by Military Offices. Wire-tapping without a warrant to introduce evidence in a criminal prosecution is a no-no. It is, however, completely distinct from gather intelligence or recon data abroad to target enemy soldiers, spies, and saboteurs. If somebody a valid target to be shot up by a predator drone without a trial then bugging their phone calls isn't really a 4th Amendment issue.

    MA state and local policy investigators are part of Law Enforcement and thus all their searches, seizures, wiretaps, and electronic monitoring are subject to warrant requirements.

    1. Re:Warrants for Police by rtb61 · · Score: 3, Informative

      If they are going to base it on warrants, then there is that little pesky difference between being served a warrant, being able to view it and read, being able to give a copy to your lawyers for review, being able to monitor the search and, of course it being secret. It really gives way to much power to law enforcement, once it is secret there is no public review and, with the seeming drop in professionalism in the shift from policing to 'enforcement', the blank check for making up evidence in order to gain arrests and subsequent promotions, or just petty revenge, is becoming more dangerous.

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  13. Reasonable? by Pro923 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    While it might seem like a reasonable law at first glance, realize that unreasonable things usually come to pass in small increments. In five years, you'll have a GPS planted on your car because you've had a speeding ticket at some point in the past, and some day you'll receive a number of citations automatically generated from a computer that used the GPS tracking info to record every time you exceed 65 MPH on route 93.

  14. "particularly describing" is one problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    From the 4th amendment: "no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

    For example: if they think you have a dead body in your broom closet, they can get a search warrant authorizing a search of your broom closet for a dead body. They are not allowed to turn that into a general fishing expedition to search anyplace you might ever have been, for anything they decide is suspicious as they find it. They have to state in advance what they're looking for and where they are going to look.

    GPS tracking seems like the opposite of that: by definition they don't state the location ahead of time, or describe particularly what it is that they are going to seize.

  15. Re:What the hell is wrong with that state? by tgibbs · · Score: 4, Informative

    She walked into an airport with a blinking electronic device AND DELIBERATELY IGNORED A SIMPLE QUESTION ASKED TO HER BY AN AIRPORT EMPLOYEE. That is either stupid ("I don't have to deal with airport employees") or arrogant ("Airport employees are beneath my level of acknowledgement") or both.

    Actually, that is in dispute. She says that she responded to the clerk, turned the lights off and tried to calm down the clerk who was freaking out. The "clay" was a baked sculpture of a flower that she was carrying to give to the friend that she was meeting.

    That employee reported the situation, which is hardly "fly[ing] into a panic".

    I'd say that calling the police over somebody with flashing lights, or a red hat, or a leather jacket (all of which have equal relevance to terrorism or bombs) constitutes flying into a panic.

    It is rarely smart to act like a nitwit when dealing with security issues, but enough people do that they have to put up signs that warn that jokes about bombs are not funny at TSA checkpoints.

    Just to be clear, this was not a TSA checkpoint, or a secure area--it was a counter in the outer atrium, full of people with uninspected suitcases, any one of which could hold enough explosive to kill everybody in the room.