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Gene Roddenberry's Mac Plus Is Coming Up For Auction

Harry writes "In 1986, Apple unveiled one of the most popular Macintoshes ever, the Mac Plus. The company gave the first one (serial number #F4200NUM0001) to Star Trek's creator, Gene Roddenberry. And now this very Mac Plus will go up for auction at a Hollywood collectibles event on October 8th and 9th, complete with a letter of authenticity from Roddenberry's son. The estimated value is only $800-$1200, which seems reasonable enough, given its double historical significance." Any bets on how high the bidding will go?

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  1. Bets on how high? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    400 quatloos!!

    1. Re:Bets on how high? by Tablizer · · Score: 4, Funny

      Damned Canadians and their odd money!

    2. Re:Bets on how high? by sarahbau · · Score: 2, Funny

      half a gram of Anjoran bio-mimetic gel

    3. Re:Bets on how high? by zonker · · Score: 3, Funny

      I hear they only deal in gold pressed latinum. Damned Ferengis.

  2. Re:Good Piece of History by bennomatic · · Score: 5, Insightful

    10k? This is Gene Roddenberry, man. His fans will pay $10k for a ripped shirt stained with Shatner's sweat. I'll bet this could clear a quarter mil.

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  3. Re:Good Piece of History by bennomatic · · Score: 2, Informative
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  4. I'll bid on it... by i_liek_turtles · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...and write Spock/Kirk slash.

    1. Re:I'll bid on it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The auction should be on fanfiction.net, where the folks who would really get some use out of this machine congregate. Except that they're all living at home still. Oh, well...

      Doesn't everyone technically live at home, with home being defined as "where you live"?

  5. It depends by mysidia · · Score: 5, Funny

    At a Hollywood collectibles event, it will probably go for $200k.

    If they had listed it on eBay, and slashdotted the listing, they would probably get bids in amounts over $10 million+.

    But I guess after eBay fees, they're better off selling it at the Hollywood collectibles event :)

    1. Re:It depends by lofoforabr · · Score: 5, Funny

      eBay must be run by the Ferengi.
      In fact, they seem to be even greedier than the Ferengi.

    2. Re:It depends by Tetsujin · · Score: 3, Funny

      eBay must be run by the Ferengi.

      In fact, they seem to be even greedier than the Ferengi.

      Nah, don't be silly. eBay is nothing like the Ferengi.

      The Ferengi follow a very strict code which governs how they may profit from commerce...

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  6. Re:Apple Care by $RANDOMLUSER · · Score: 4, Funny

    It would, if Apple cared.

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  7. Imagine by Weaselmancer · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...what you'd find on the main hard disc with a sector editor. THEN bid.

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    1. Re:Imagine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      What are you guys talking about? Mac Pluses don't have hard disks.

    2. Re:Imagine by Orion+Blastar · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yeah maybe so but some of his stories like the The God Thing and other stories he couldn't finish or sell would be found. You will find that many authors get writer's block and if they have less than 50,000 words written on a book, they usually scrap it and start on a new different book. Writer's block is quite common, which I guess is why Roddenberry couldn't finish the God Thing story, but I guess he had enough of it written to keep it and try to pass it on to other writers to finish for him. So any deleted data would be books and movie scripts that got aborted due to writer's block and he had to quit them and give up and work on something different.

      Oh yeah IIRC the Mac Plus didn't come with a hard drive, it used 3.5" floppy disks. It has a SCSI1 port to use an external hard drive and if it is not included with the auction you won't be recovering any data. The Mac Plus had no support for an internal hard drive like the Mac SE replacement had. I know as I have both a Mac Plus and Mac SE that I have worked on.

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    3. Re:Imagine by GrahamCox · · Score: 4, Informative

      The data might still be there

      Nope. The Mac Plus had no internal hard drive.

    4. Re:Imagine by chadbryant · · Score: 2, Informative

      Not only did the Mac Plus not have a hard drive, the 800k floppy drive it did have was notoriously fickle and unreliable, often killing more than a few disks on its way to the hardware graveyard. When I had the chance to clean out (and keep whatever I wanted from) a storage container full of discarded educational hardware (mostly Macs from the Plus era up to the IIsi era), I learned very quickly that Pluses were pretty much a waste of time to haul home, especially when the modular-plug keyboard (this was pre-ADB) was dead as well.

    5. Re:Imagine by johncadengo · · Score: 2, Funny

      The data might still be there

      Nope. The Mac Plus had no internal hard drive.

      Oh, really? Then explain to me where they stored the formula for the transparent aluminum. On the invisible drive? Yeah, right, I'm not stupid.

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  8. Re:By Neruos by Robin47 · · Score: 4, Informative

    I had a Mac Plus. It didn't have a drive. Just one floppy drive.

  9. Wait a minute! You're forgetting something! by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 5, Funny

    This the the Mac Plus with the formula for Transparent Aluminum on it!

    1. Re:Wait a minute! You're forgetting something! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative
  10. Not as originally advertised by m509272 · · Score: 5, Informative

    determined to be not as advertised

    We've gotten several inquires about this by the fantastically loyal and knowledgeable Mac community. After further investigating the item, here's the information:
    Firstly, this Macintosh was, indeed, presented to Gene Roddenberry by Apple. There is no doubt about this.
    The conflict between the photo and the serial number is as follows. This computer, given by Apple to Mr. Roddenberry, is an early production Macintosh 128 (#776), which was then upgraded by Apple for Gene to a Macintosh Plus-thus the model number / serial number / panel that "belongs to" a Macintosh Plus. The 0001 led us to mistakenly believe that it was the first one off the line.
    Again, the provenance of the item is perfect and it did belong to Mr. Roddenberry. I apologize for any confusion.

    1. Re:Not as originally advertised by Shag · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The upgrade from 128K to Mac Plus spec is actually pretty significant, since the 128K was only supported until MacOS 4 while the Plus was supported until 7.5.5 (which was a pretty decent OS). I suspect this is going to go more to someone who wants it because of the provenance, though, and rarely if ever get used. I hope whoever buys it sets it up to play a slideshow of Trek photos or something.

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  11. Added bonus by Comatose51 · · Score: 3, Funny

    As an added bonus, you get a mouse that doubles as a microphone and understands voice input.

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  12. Language Packs by i_liek_turtles · · Score: 2, Funny

    I require the interface and documentation to be in Klingon.

  13. Re:$1701 by ari_j · · Score: 4, Funny

    The really problem is that every fan will bid $1701. Therefore, only a non-fan can possibly win the auction.

  14. Re:apple needs to restart Star Trek proposal and h by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 3, Insightful

    apple needs to restart Star Trek proposal and have mac os x for all x86 hardware back then dell the others did not want it (part of the M$ lock in that the killed beos, os/2 and others) now dell and others want it vista is a big bust and linux is ganging ground.

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  15. Re:Good Piece of History by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 3, Insightful

    My guess would be Paul Allen, or a proxy thereof, will sit there bidding until he wins. And it will go for over $120,000, easily.

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  16. Re:apple needs to restart Star Trek proposal and h by Shag · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I thought people only posted while drunk on Fark.

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  17. 3 bars of gold pressed latinum by Sir_Sri · · Score: 2, Informative

    3 bars of gold pressed latinum.

    Seriously, I don't see it as much other than a museum piece. Odds are if it still works, it won't for very much longer, leaving it a glorified vase, with toxic metals in it.

    1. Re:3 bars of gold pressed latinum by Mr680x0 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Odds are if it still works, it won't for very much longer, leaving it a glorified vase, with toxic metals in it.

      What do you mean it won't work much longer? Chances are it'll last years longer, just like most other Apple hardware from the time. I've got Apple II systems that still function perfectly, CRT and all.

  18. Re:Good Piece of History by Jeremy+Erwin · · Score: 4, Informative

    It does indeed. Did you know that the 128k Macintosh was the very first Macintosh model ever produced? The very first, I tell you!

    Plugging the serial number into the Early Macintosh Serial decoder yields:

    Your Macintosh 128 (M0001), with serial number F4200NUM0001, was the 776th manufactured during the 20th week of 1984 in Fremont, CA.

  19. Re:Yellow by Dewin · · Score: 5, Informative

    There's a few ways to restore or prevent the yellowing. I can't find the original page I saw before, but this has more information.

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  20. Re:By Neruos by alexandre_ganso · · Score: 5, Informative

    The serial number and the pictures are of an original mac, not a plus. However, see what the auction house said:

    We've gotten several inquires about this by the fantastically loyal and knowledgeable Mac community. After further investigating the item, here's the information:
    Firstly, this Macintosh was, indeed, presented to Gene Roddenberry by Apple. There is no doubt about this.
    The conflict between the photo and the serial number is as follows. This computer, given by Apple to Mr. Roddenberry, is an early production Macintosh 128 (#776), which was then upgraded by Apple for Gene to a Macintosh Plus-thus the model number / serial number / panel that "belongs to" a Macintosh Plus. The 0001 led us to mistakenly believe that it was the first one off the line.
    Again, the provenance of the item is perfect and it did belong to Mr. Roddenberry. I apologize for any confusion.

  21. This is nothing. by ATMD · · Score: 2, Funny

    Apple may have given Roddenberry a Mac, but in a decade or so they'll be celebrating Asimov's 100th birthday with their new media-streaming, music playing domestic assistant, the iRobot.

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  22. Re:Good Piece of History by Hal_Porter · · Score: 3, Funny

    Mac fans show their people skills once again.

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  23. But... by RichardJenkins · · Score: 2, Funny

    But does it run LCARS?

  24. StarTrek 4 by dissy · · Score: 2, Informative

    I wonder if this is the same Mac that was used in the famous transparent aluminum scene in Star Trek 4 that Scotty was speaking with. I'm pretty sure that was a Mac Plus as well.

  25. Re:Good Piece of History by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    If you try any other similar serial numbers (ie F4200NUM0482) it says exactly the same thing as for 0001.

    Me thinks the decoder is broken.

  26. Re:Good Piece of History by Sandbags · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Might have been the first one ISSUED by Apple. I'm sure they ran a few hundred through the manufacturing process in testing of the line and systems, not to mention internal units distributed for various reasons and software testing.

    Also, they likey made a few hundred, and had them all packed to ship out to retailers, and on a day a few days before they gave away the first one, but it was not necessarily the first one off the line...

    Then again, we have a family friend with the very first car from Dodge of some particular model of a Hemi in some year (can't remember which, might be a Road Runner), and he has the documentation to confirm it was in fact #1, but it;s seriel number (VIN) actually indicates it was #26. About 20 went to demolition and saftey testing, and a couple of them came off the line with "defects". #26 was the first one sold, including that noone on the team, not even dodge, kept one of them prior to #26 for their own use. It reall is the first one (all 25 previous were destroyed or dissasembled before #26 was sold).

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  27. Re:By Neruos by PitaBred · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Hell, I'm not even a major Trekker (Trekkie? I never know what the latest P.C. term is...) and I'd pay $5K for it. It's a hell of a conversation piece, as well as memorabilia. I'll bet there are a bunch of Trek fans who have the cash to blow who'd bid this way over that.