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IBM's Patent To "Capture Expert Knowledge" With Games

theodp writes "Robert X. Cringely offers his take on IBM's patent-pending way to suck knowledge out of experts and inject it into younger, stronger, cheaper employees, possibly even in other countries. IBM's 'Platform for Capturing Knowledge' relies on immersive 3-D gaming environments to transfer expert knowledge held by employees 'aged 50 and older' to 18-25 year-old trainees, even those who find manuals 'difficult to read and understand.' It jibes nicely with an IBM White Paper (PDF) that advises CIOs to deal with Baby Boomers by 'investing in global resources from geographies with a lower average age for IT workers, such as India or China.' While Cringely isn't surprised that Big Blue's anyone-can-manage-anything, anyone-should-be-able-to-perform-any-job culture would spawn such an 'invention,' he can't help but wonder: When you get rid of the real experts, who is going to figure out the new stuff?"

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  1. Teh Real Experts by sopssa · · Score: 3, Funny

    When you get rid of the real experts, who is going to figure out the new stuff?

    The masterminds on Slashdot.

    On an unrelated note, where can I sign up to be first man to be send to Mars again?

  2. Uh huh by $RANDOMLUSER · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...deal with Baby Boomers by 'investing in global resources from geographies with a lower average age for IT workers, such as India or China.'

    Yeah, I'm sure that's their motivation... (Nothing about salaries or insurance or taxes or any of that financial stuff.

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    1. Re:Uh huh by Jurily · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Also the part about "even those who find manuals 'difficult to read and understand.'" makes me wonder just how much "expert knowledge" will actually survive the transition.

    2. Re:Uh huh by $RANDOMLUSER · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Then don't bother with the disingenuous bullshit about "lower average age". Just say "We're putting middle-aged Americans out of work and sending it to countries with lower standards of living and more exploitative social settings because we can make more money that way". That wasn't so hard was it?

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    3. Re:Uh huh by FriendlyPrimate · · Score: 3, Insightful

      They can't do that because they exist to make money, and being honest in this particular case would affect their bottom line. IBM just happens to be one of the many companies that place shareholders above all else, including ethics.

  3. Wrong career. by tecnico.hitos · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...to 18-25 year-old trainees, even those who find manuals 'difficult to read and understand.'

    Do these people have enough attention span to actually learn something? If they can't even read manuals, maybe they shouldn't be employed in tech related jobs...

    The Summary raises an interesting question: How you can have capable professionals if their learning process is dumbed down? We have a serious cultural problem. Idiocracy has taken over.

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    1. Re:Wrong career. by Angst+Badger · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Exactly what I was thinking. The group of people who "find manuals 'difficult to read and understand'" are not a target for software-based training methods -- at least, not outside grade school -- they are a target for replacement with software altogether.

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    2. Re:Wrong career. by Angst+Badger · · Score: 3, Interesting

      AFAIK we still don't have an AI which can read and understand manuals.

      Certainly. But most of the tasks performed by people who can't read and understand manuals can probably be performed by software, excepting menial physical labor that will eventually be performed by robots.

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  4. Ehhm... How? by Errol+backfiring · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Sorry for being ignorant, but where is the invention? Reading the "patent" (I really cannot call it that), I see a lot of buzzword bingo (hint: put XML on your list) and not a single shard of how they want to accomplish that task. They do not explain what the interviewer has to do. I think that interviewer has to be an expert in his field himself.

    Furthermore, the text does not say how the knowledge is extracted from an interview, other than that it is "semantically parsed". Where is the invention itself? A system that COULD extract "knowledge" (if you can define the word at all) should be brilliant in itself. Now a patent should be explaining the invention and I cannot see the inventions themselves. Only that those mystery inventions are applied, and it is the application of those magical inventions that seems to be patented here.

    Furthermore, a magic box that could convert boring knowledge (I DO read manuals) to games is also high order magic to Ponder about. As a side note, I'd rather look up the manual page than blast all those aliens to their deaths first.

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  5. I see two problems by PPH · · Score: 4, Interesting
    First

    relies on immersive 3-D gaming environments to transfer expert knowledge held by employees

    This sort of interactive interface seems to be better suited to capture or refine 'gut feeling' reactions, instinctive responses to situations (like threats, etc.) rather than carefully thought out strategies for solving problems. Its better for developing quick reactions to problems like "Which alien do I shoot first?" I mean, what sort of 'immersion' does one use to extract knowledge from an expert? An avatar of a PHB screaming at employees to hurry up and get the engineering done fast? That's not the sort of knowledge we need to capture (witness the ongoing saga of the Boeing 787).

    I'd look for more of a text or conversational based Q and A system. But here's a problem for IBM. We've had those for a few decades now. They work just fine. No new patents needed here.

    he can't help but wonder: When you get rid of the real experts, who is going to figure out the new stuff?"

    When I see an industry starting down this trail, I think, "This industry is dying. Management doesn't see any future in product or process improvements. Where should I be investing my money now?"

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  6. Capitalism by mlwmohawk · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm mostly a capitalist. I generally think I should be paid for work that I do, however, there is a sense of dignity missing in the rush to the bottom attitude of raw unbridled capitalism that is disgusting.

    Money "right now" greed will be the destruction of capitalism and the end of democracy as we know it. Democracy depends on an independent society. As the poor get poorer and the rich get richer, the notions of government and individual rights and dignity become less relevant. What good are environmental laws, worker safety laws, tax rates, etc. when corporations can just go to some 3rd world shit-hole and work those people for cheap. Then, if they have the temerity to demand rights and pay, then the corporation will just jump to the next shit-hole and exploit those workers.

    Maybe I'm old fashioned, but man-kind evolved a social structure that worked. It was a balance of personal avarice and societal responsibility. One was supposed to have an amount of greed BUT! Also have an amount of social responsibility. The community protected itself against threats. The well-to-do (from hunter gatherers to railroad tycoons) knew they needed the protection and/or good will of the community to survive, so, while they lived better than most, they made sure their wealth also provided for the society that allowed them to be successful.

    Once the society stops taking care of itself and it is an "everyman for himself situation," civilization is over. There must be a notion of a common good. There must be a notion of âoefor the good of society,â even in capitalism. It is a race to the bottom and no good can come from abandoning the stake holder for the sole purpose of enriching the share holder. There must be a balance between greed and society or we will lose both our wealth and our civilization.

    1. Re:Capitalism by spiffmastercow · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The 21st century, on the other hand, is a story of the middle class becoming poor, the poor becoming drug dealers, and the rich becoming insanely rich.

    2. Re:Capitalism by dpilot · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Or consider it to be recycling or crop-rotation, at the national level. As consumer demand picks up in India and China, the multinationals can jettison the US completely, workers and consumers both. The US becomes so badly depressed that in another generation they become the next workforce to be exploited, when the Indians and Chinese start to become too expensive. The crop rotation scheme is probably more complex than this, but it wouldn't surprise me to hear that some people are actually thinking this way.

      One fly in the ointment... At some point businesses will start to home-grow in India and China, and decide that those overpaid (formerly US) multinational executives are an unnecessary expense - and jettison them.

      One other fly... All things really aren't fungible. Sometimes it takes time and humility to know what is and isn't.

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  7. new stuff comes from acquisitions by retchdog · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The innovation will come from acquiring startups.

    The rank-and-file workers of modern mega-corporations are basically welfare recipients. Their tangible day-to-day contributions, if there in fact are any, are dispersed through a miasma of powerpoints and politics. Reward is likewise twisted as it mapped through this noise. This patent/methodology is not surprising at all; in fact I find it rather fascinating, in that it's a black-and-white acceptance of the fact that most employees are superfluous.

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  8. "who's going to figure out the new stuff?" by alizard · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Who cares?

    Incumbent CEOs who fire their experts will have left the company and cashed out their options long before "new stuff" can become a problem.

    It's their successors who will have to deal with the results. And of course, their customers.