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DoJ Recommends NY Court Reject Google Book Deal

eldavojohn writes "The BBC and others are reporting on the US Department of Justice's recommendation to a New York court that they reject the Google book deal. The deal has received considerable attention, but for the most part it has been negative."

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  1. Re:Worst summary ever by Jurily · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Summary: OMG searchable books! Think of the copyright holders!

  2. Only a good thing if by phantomfive · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is only a good thing if it leads to a better arrangement. The google book deal is not ideal, but at least it gets the books out there. If as a result of this deal being struck down we have copyright reform (not likely, since at the moment people dying of lack of health care is a significantly bigger issue), then it is good. If as a result of this deal being struck down, a better deal is negotiated with Google (which is possible), then it will still not be ideal. If as a result of this deal being struck down, nothing ends up happening, which is possible, it would be worse for the world.

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    1. Re:Only a good thing if by Rogerborg · · Score: 4, Insightful

      A mechanism for individual authors to register and get paid directly, not for the money to go to a bunch of lawyers who have declared themselves to be working on behalf of those authors.

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    2. Re:Only a good thing if by phantomfive · · Score: 3, Insightful

      People who die because of lack of healthcare don't die because they can't get treatment at the moment of the heart attack, it's because they A) don't have the preventative care leading up to the heart attack, and B) don't have the option to go for more expensive treatments. You're not going to get on a heart transplant waiting list if you can't afford it.

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  3. Re:Lets just... by symbolset · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Lets just abolish copyright and eliminate this problem altogether.

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  4. Exclusivity is the root of all evil in this... by nweaver · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If the settlement was "any other company may also have the same rights under the same terms", it would be a VERY good deal.

    But with the exclusivity, it is very bad. Without the exclusivity, someone else could take the time to do the scanning, and the sales. EG, Amazon, Microsoft, Yahoo, or even a new startup.

    But with the exclusivity, you give Google a monopoly over out-of-print books.

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    1. Re:Exclusivity is the root of all evil in this... by gilroy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's not just about making money. (I know -- the horror!) It's also about control and access. Why should any one company, even Google, get sole and exclusive rights to works in the public domain?

  5. Screw the DoJ by MikeRT · · Score: 2, Insightful

    In its present form it would, it said, give Google sole authority for books whose copyright holder could not be found

    In other words, they're terrified of the prospect that Google is extending the doctrine of squatters' rights to intellectual property.

  6. Re:Worst summary ever by zippthorne · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Well, that depends. How long have you been dead and your work out of print?

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  7. Re:Lets just... by rtfa-troll · · Score: 2, Insightful

    And whilst we're making sensible linkages (when you think about it, actual existing people really equivalent to arbitrary legally constructed restrictions on free speech) like that I think that standardised egg sizes is the solution to the problem.

    Just think of the pineapples.

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  8. The Modern Narrative by hessian · · Score: 2, Insightful

    There must always be some large, slow-moving body (like a Mammoth, but preferably evil like a corporation or government) which We The People assault to prove our virtue if not virility.

    Yesterday, Microsoft and George W. Bush; today, Google and Nancy Pelosi. So it goes.

  9. DOJ?? by KwKSilver · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Is this the same DOJ that has been packed with "ex" Microsoft lawyers? The same Microsoft that's run by some Mussolini-lookalike who's supposed to have said, "I'm gonna fucking kill Google!"

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  10. Re:Lets just... by BudAaron · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This whole objection thing pi$$es me off! I have about 20 old books that I wrote years ago. This deal is worth anywhere from $ 1200 to $ 2000 that I could sure use but now everyone is weighing in to prevent that. I WANT my books included!

  11. Re:Worst summary ever by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Doesn't the public hold the rights to the underlying language?

    What if we just rescind your license to the words?

    Oh, and the society you got your ideas and education from would like their cultural memes back as well.

    You didn't create your work out of a void. Without the supporting culture, you would be little more than a quick witted animal. Certainly, with no one educating you, you would not have produced anything. Where is your payment back to the thousands of people who influenced you?

    The very culture that produced you granted you a reasonable amount of time to control your cultural contribution. They did this to encourage you to contribute back to that culture. Unless you have a cure for cancer, face it, your contribution likely amounts to very little. The culture can probably do without it.

    Copyright is not some sort of natural or God-given right. It;'s a right granted by "the people" for *their* immediate benefit. Not yours. "The people" want to encourage people to share. The operative work: "SHARE". This is how a culture progresses.