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Dead Salmon's "Brain Activity" Cautions fMRI Researchers

AthanasiusKircher sends in a Wired writeup on what should surely be a contender in the next Improbable Research competition: wiring a dead salmon into an fMRI machine and showing it pictures of humans designed to evoke various emotions. "When they got around to analyzing the voxel... data, the voxels representing the area where the salmon's tiny brain sat showed evidence of activity. In the fMRI scan, it looked like the dead salmon was actually thinking about the pictures it had been shown. ... The result is completely nuts — but that's actually exactly the point. [Neuroscientist Craig] Bennett... and his adviser, George Wolford, wrote up the work as a warning about the dangers of false positives in fMRI data. They wanted to call attention to ways the field could improve its statistical methods. ... Bennett notes: 'We could set our threshold [of significance] so high that we have no false positives, but we have no legitimate results.... We could also set it so low that we end up getting voxels in the fish's brain. It's the fine line that we walk.'" The research has been turned down by several publications, according to Wired, but a poster is available (PDF).

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  1. spoooooky by TheSHAD0W · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Are you sure this doesn't prove the existence of the soul???

    1. Re:spoooooky by religious+freak · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Wouldn't the soul have already left the body upon death, using any number of different religious beliefs? I don't think many beliefs think it sticks around tied to the body after it's dead - kind of defeats the purpose of religion :)

      The thing that weirds me out - call me unscientific - is that upon organ donation, they just do a simple EEG (or is it EKG?) to look for nervous system / brain activity. If you've got minimal brain activity (i.e. "brain dead"), they'll still harvest you. Might be that old tales from the crypt episode I watched when I was 13, but... freak me out. That's why I'm not signed up to donate organs. I want to make damn sure I can't perceive ANYTHING before they take my organs out of my body.

      If someone wants to correct me (I hope I'm wrong), please point me to a credible reference that shows I'm wrong (i.e. they do more than a simple "yeah, he seems pretty dead to me"). Dismiss it if you'd like, but really, why aren't people more concerned about this?

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  2. Re:Overlords by strstr · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    You're stupid.