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Soviets Built a Doomsday Machine; It's Still Alive

An anonymous reader points out a story in Wired introducing us to the Doomsday Machine built by the Soviet Union in the 1980s — and that remains active to this day. It was called "Perimeter." The article explains why the device was built, and why the Soviets considered it to be something that kept the peace, even though they never told the US about it. "[Reagan's] strategy worked. Moscow soon believed the new US leadership really was ready to fight a nuclear war. But the Soviets also became convinced that the US was now willing to start a nuclear war. ... A few months later, Reagan... announced that the US was going to develop a shield of lasers and nuclear weapons in space to defend against Soviet warheads. ... To Moscow it was the Death Star — and it confirmed that the US was planning an attack. ... By guaranteeing that Moscow could hit back, Perimeter was actually designed to keep an overeager Soviet military or civilian leader from launching prematurely during a crisis. The point, [an informant] says, was 'to cool down all these hotheads and extremists. No matter what was going to happen, there still would be revenge. Those who attack us will be punished.'"

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  1. Didn't they watch Dr. Strangelove? by onionman · · Score: 5, Funny

    What's the point of building a Doomsday machine if you don't tell everyone about it?

    1. Re:Didn't they watch Dr. Strangelove? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      They were going to announce it Monday.

      Thanks for posting this the day after a Stanley Kuberick retrospective on AMC. Good memories.

    2. Re:Didn't they watch Dr. Strangelove? by Ukab+the+Great · · Score: 4, Funny

      If you tell everyong about it, the liberals will try to interfere with our right to bear doomsday devices by either adding a 3 day waiting-period for mad scientists or by classifying them as "assault rifles".

    3. Re:Didn't they watch Dr. Strangelove? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      They were planning to announce it next week.

    4. Re:Didn't they watch Dr. Strangelove? by MeatBag+PussRocket · · Score: 4, Funny

      Gentlemen! you cant fight in here, this is the War Room!

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    5. Re:Didn't they watch Dr. Strangelove? by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 4, Funny

      Amen brother! I never go anywhere without my mutated anthrax... for duck hunting.

    6. Re:Didn't they watch Dr. Strangelove? by Rob+the+Bold · · Score: 3, Funny

      As you know, the Premier loves surprises.

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    7. Re:Didn't they watch Dr. Strangelove? by _Sprocket_ · · Score: 3, Funny

      That whooshing sound you heard was Slim Pickens passing overhead.

    8. Re:Didn't they watch Dr. Strangelove? by _Sprocket_ · · Score: 2, Funny

      If they told the US, it would only lead to an eventual Doomsday gap.

  2. Dr Strangelove? by MozeeToby · · Score: 5, Funny

    First, where's the Dr Strangelove tag?

    Second, (as Dr Strangelove pointed out) a doomsday machine only makes sense as a deterent if both sides know about it. Why wasn't the machine made public earlier when the Soviets thought that the US was about to launch an attack?

    Third, no worries. A small, controlled population with a ratio of 1 male to 10 females properly sheltered will be able to keep society going. Naturally, the females will need to be chosen for their attractiveness and the males for the knowledge and skills they know (I'm thinking lots of engineers will be needed so sign me up).

    1. Re:Dr Strangelove? by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 3, Funny

      Wow, thanks for denouncing a 1950s movie as sexist pig. Glad you got that out there. Even in the movie it was more of a joke, even the Soviet agreed it was a good idea!

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  3. what's really going on by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
  4. In Soviet Russia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    the missiles sense you!

  5. Re:That makes at least two... by tilandal · · Score: 2, Funny

    You only need one if it is designed right.

  6. Don't tell Putin. by Icegryphon · · Score: 2, Funny

    The system remains so shrouded that Yarynich worries his continued openness puts him in danger. He might have a point: One Soviet official who spoke with Americans about the system died in a mysterious fall down a staircase.

    polonium-210 milkshake anyone?

  7. Re:That makes at least two... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Lol! That's unlikely, unless these systems are THOROUGHLY tested before put in place...

  8. Don't forget by WinPimp2K · · Score: 4, Funny

    Ah but before you get too comfortable with your government assigned harem - and do you really want women whose "attractiveness" is determined by a committee? (oh wait this is Slashdot...)

    But before you get started on repopulating the planet, you have to deal with the mine shaft gap.

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  9. Re:Doomsday Machine by kungfugleek · · Score: 5, Funny

    The article says there is a checklist he is supposed to follow too

    I'm a little too tired to do it today, but hopefully some other slashdotters will come up with some speculation as to what exactly was on that checklist. Oh I'll give it a shot...

    • Try to contact headquarters again, just to be sure they're really, really blown up this time
    • Double check that "nuclear detonation" detector to make sure it's not giving us false positives -- again
    • Make sure it's pointed at the guys who really shot at us, which will *probably* be the US, but it never hurts to make sure
    • Fill out forms BFG-1, 2, and 9000 in triplicate, sign, date, and tuck the forms in your boot
    • Open the launch bay doors -- THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT!!!
    • Try to contact headquarters one last time. If anyone -- I mean freaking anyone answers, stop here.
    • The control switch requires two simultaneous handprints that are 12 feet (I mean 4 meters, cuz we're commies) apart, so in the event you are the sole survivor, cut off one of your arms and tape it to either handprint sensor before proceeding.
    • Lift the covering over the button that says "Doomsday Device: NEVER USE"
    • Laugh maniacally like an evil genius -- hey, you'll only get to do this once, so might as well make the most of it.
    • Push button.
    • Hide.
  10. Re:Doomsday Machine by ZackSchil · · Score: 5, Funny

    I like how the rest of Asia (40% of the world population), Mexico, and Central/South America (9%) constitute 10% in your worldview.

    Kudos for throwing Africa in as 20%, even though it's closer to 14%. This may be the first time anyone has actually overestimated the influence of Africa.

  11. The Metric System by Tetsujin · · Score: 2, Funny

    So there are a metric buttload of missiles lying around all over The Former Soviet Union, just waiting for coded radio signals that will launch them.

    Ah, yes - the good ol' metric buttload... It's worth noting that this is significantly larger than what Americans call the "Standard" buttload...

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  12. Mutant anthrax + Ducks == trouble by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Ah, so *you're* responsible for all the mutant ducks in my neighbourhood:
    http://www.reallyfunnypictures.co.uk/animals/pic41.php

  13. Re:Doomsday Machine by Shakrai · · Score: 5, Funny

    Or they'll be thousands of years ahead of us in technology and will only surrender on the brink of total victory in Earth orbit because of some crazy religious revelation....

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  14. Re:And then USSR collapsed... by unitron · · Score: 2, Funny

    A decade after Reagan the USSR collapsed dramatically loosing the Cold War...

    Well, then tell them to tighten it back up!

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  15. Re:Doomsday Machine by PeterBrett · · Score: 2, Funny

    So there are a metric buttload of missiles lying around all over The Former Soviet Union, just waiting for coded radio signals that will launch them.

    Firstly, the metric buttload of missiles are exactly the same missiles that would be launched in a non-Perimeter strike, if I understand the article correctly -- Perimeter is just an alternative way to transmit launch authorisation. This probably means that the normal warhead arming procedures would have to be carried out, probably as part of step 1 of arming the Perimeter system. So, no, the missiles are not sitting there armed at all times, waiting for a coded signal -- that would be silly and dangerous.

    Well, that's how I'd do it, anyway.

  16. Re:Doomsday Machine by Schnoogs · · Score: 1, Funny

    Go study WWII and then come tell me you'd prefer that over these minor wars we're facing. 100 million dead and the complete obliteration of several countries.

  17. Re:Doomsday Machine by winomonkey · · Score: 2, Funny
    Oh, you forgot two critical steps ...
    • ???
    • Profit

    Now take a nap or somesing.

  18. Re:another intelligent species by Mike+Rice · · Score: 4, Funny

    I must have missed something. When was the first one discovered?

  19. Re:Doomsday Machine by Ecuador · · Score: 2, Funny

    And you sir forgot Grand Fenwick, the only other power (along with the Soviet Union it seems from this new revelation) that holds a doomsday device!

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  20. Re:We don't even have 100 years by orasio · · Score: 3, Funny

    While that is a good idea, choose wisely your atheists, watch out for nihilists, they might not even care.

  21. Re:Doomsday Machine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I like how the rest of Asia (40% of the world population), Mexico, and Central/South America (9%) constitute 10% in your worldview.

    Kudos for throwing Africa in as 20%, even though it's closer to 14%. This may be the first time anyone has actually overestimated the influence of Africa.

    Clearly the results were weighted using dicksize.

  22. Re:Doomsday Machine by Lehk228 · · Score: 4, Funny

    yes you are correct, if the united states learned to cast magical spells the USSR would have been screwed.

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  23. Re:Doomsday Machine by Spazztastic · · Score: 2, Funny

    When elephants fight, it's the grass that suffers.

    Is this just some "Americans are fat" joke?

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