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Why Games Cost $60

eldavojohn writes "Crispy Gamer is running a very interesting article on why games cost $60. Many games start out at this retail price — but why? Did the makers of The Beatles Rock Band game just happen upon $59.99, as did the makers of Batman Arkham Asylum? After all, those two titles surely took different amounts of man hours to develop, and result in different averages of entertainment time enjoyed by the consumer. They interview a director at Electronic Entertainment Design and Research, who breaks down the pie as $12 to retailer, $5 to discounts/returns/retail marketing, $10 toward manufacturing costs and shipping. That leaves $30 to $35 in the hands of the publishers. Though lengthy, the article looks at three forces of economics on why game publishers continuously end up in lockstep for pricing: sensible greed, consumer stupidity or evil conspiracy. When asked about the next step up to $70 or $80, Hal Halpin (president and founder of the Entertainment Consumers Association) says, 'I'm not sure that we'll see a standard $70 price point at all. To my mind, emerging technologies, subscriptions and episodic and downloadable content should all enable price drops — increasing accessibility to a much wider audience.'"

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  1. Its justified price by sopssa · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Many games start out at this retail price â" but why? Did the makers of The Beatles Rock Band game just happen upon $59.99, as did the makers of Batman Arkham Asylum? After all, those two titles surely took different amounts of man hours to develop, and result in different averages of entertainment time enjoyed by the consumer.

    It's the same thing with movies and music. There's a certain "standard" price everyone goes with, because if they didn't, it'll affect their sales. Going a bit over the standard decreases sales, going a bit less than the standard can increase them. You have to find the fine line.

    And to be honest, they $60 price isn't that much if it's a great game. You pay atleast $15+ to go the movies, probably even more if you make a night out of it. You might spend the same amount in bars too. Both of those give only a few hours of entertainment value, and to be honest aren't all that fun all the time. Good games give a lot more entertainment and fun hours. My stats for Left4Dead show 947 hours and I've probably spend *a lot* in WoW too. And dont even get me started on the civilization and settlers series.

    That being said, I would probably try more games if they were cheaper. But I still will get the games I want.

    $10 go toward cost of goods sold, which includes manufacturing the game disc, shipping the games to the store, and anything else directly related to production and delivery of the game package.

    I think digital delivery is something that can bring this price down a lot. Yes, bandwidth does cost, but its nothing like producing tons of dvd's, packaging them, sending them all over the world and delivering to stores. And the user experience is usually a lot nicer, you can easily buy it without walking to store.

    And to be honest, game development is no cheap business and it's getting even more costly all the time. Yeah you could argue that theres great indie games that have been developed at cheaper budgets, and you're right; there are. But their budgets also are $10 000 - $100 000. It means you have to get lots of sales. And indie developers really cant produce the games like Call of Duty series (specially the modern warfare ones!) and Left4Dead and Half-Life 2. There is place for indie developers, but you need professional commercial game developers too.

    1. Re:Its justified price by omgarthas · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yeah, Batman is a very nice game, I enjoyed it, but after 10 hours, I'm done with it and it offers no replayability (sorry spelling), on the other hand, other games (specially RTS or Tycoon series), cost 45$ and I would spend my entire life playing those if I could

    2. Re:Its justified price by Lord+Bitman · · Score: 4, Insightful

      here's a special trick you can do: don't give people money until they are only asking for an amount you're willing to spend. I just picked up Mirror's Edge AND DC vs Mortal Kombat for a total of £10. From a major retailer.
      If you don't want to spend $60 on a game, don't do it. Don't even complain about it. Just don't do it.

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    3. Re:Its justified price by Darkness404 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I can rent just about any new DVD for $1 a night and get the full enjoyment of the movie. On the other hand about the cheapest place that I know to rent games costs $7 for about 3 nights and you can't experience the entire game. When I walk into Barnes and Nobel if I feel like it, I can sit down in a chair and read the -entire- book, not just chapters one and two. You can type in almost any song into YouTube and with enough searching you can find it, listen to it and listen to it over and over again. With games you are limited to a demo where the creators have picked a few parts of the game that may or may not really represent the game.

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    4. Re:Its justified price by Starayo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      USD$60 is a reasonably fair price for games. I would pay it happily and indeed I do on steam for PC Games.

      Now somebody explain to me why games in Australia cost up to USD$95.

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  2. Let's be honest here. by FlyingSquidStudios · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Games are $60 because enough people are willing to buy games at that price to justify it. Like many other products, if games don't sell at $60, the price drops. If they thought people would be willing to buy games for $50 but not $60, games would be $50.

  3. Re:Price Drops by chill · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Drop in at your local community college and take a course on statistics. Pay close attention to the "profit maximization" section. It'll explain the math behind the relationship between unit cost, units sold and total profit.

    Fascinating stuff. If nothing else, it'll teach you to never spend more than $2 on lottery tickets, if you spend anything at all.

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  4. artificial price point by jollyreaper · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why does the CD soundtrack to a $150 million movie cost $17.50 and the DVD goes for $14? It's because those are the price points they got the public to swallow. VHS movies back in the day used to go for $75 or some ridiculous number and only the video stores bought them -- who would have thought private individuals would want to own movies? But eventually the price points dropped and there you are.

    Back in the day, Sierra games came with order forms for other Sierra games. Those crappy little DOS games were selling for $79.99. The stores typically had the prices lower but not by much. The entire time I was growing up, the price points for AAA titles for the top systems would be anywhere from $40 to $60. Usually $50 was the sweet spot. I recall Street Fighter having some of the most insane markups. I think SFII topped out at $80 for the SNES. Then you could also pay another $100 a piece for the special controllers.

    The two things that strike me now are 1) games were really goddamn expensive back in the day and 2) I'm surprised that they haven't been able to jack that price harder considering inflation and all.

    I agree with the article about how crazy it seems for simpler games selling for the same price as ones you know have to be ridiculously expensive to produce.

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  5. most games == Pussycat Dolls by thule · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Trent Reznor feels the same way about many games these days: Joystiq interviews Trent Reznor

    A timeless game is well worth $45 or more. I have been finding old GBA carts that are selling for more than $45 if they are in good condition. Many of the "hardcore" games on modern systems are not nearly worth that price point. Wait a year and you will see how much the game is *really* worth.
    It is amusing that game companies want to shut down used game sales. Maybe they should work on making timeless games with good content.

  6. Re:I used to make this same exuse... by sopssa · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It doesn't need to be either that or this. You can enjoy both worlds, just as long as you don't take gaming too long. I enjoy traveling, going out and hanging out with my girlfriend. On the other hand I enjoy sitting on computer, coding, gaming, writing on slashdot. As long as you balance them both good, it's great. Or even mix them; I like watching while my gf plays gta or some other games and drink a beer while she does so. And I like it when I play Left4Dead till 4am at night and she wakes up and comes sitting behind me to watch me finish it and convinces me to get to sleep then.

    You dont need to choose either one, you can do both as long as you balance it.

  7. Couldn't agree more by nobodyman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The real answer to games cost $60 is "because people will pay that much". That said, I think there are signs that the price point is more than the market will bear. Look at the meteoric rise of the trade-in market and digital distribution. I'd argue that the lower pricepoint are a big factor.

    Furthermore, look at Left 4 Dead. When they lowered the price to $30 Valve sold more copies that weekend than they did at launch!

  8. Collusion, probably by Animats · · Score: 4, Insightful

    We know why most audio CDs cost $17.99. Illegal price fixing.

    We know why video games cost $60. Illegal price fixing.

    The FTC and the Justice Department's antitrust unit were out to lunch during the Bush administration, but that seems to be changing. Stay tuned for enforcement.