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Comcast In Deal Talks With NBC Universal

schwit1 sent us an LA Times article about another step in the seemingly unending media consolidation. This time it's Cable giant Comcast Corp. looking at NBC. NBC owns a slew of channels, including Bravo, USA and Syfy (who might have the single lamest rebranding since Spike). The article says that it would be far cheaper than the Disney deal Comcast tried to pull off 5 years ago.

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  1. Consolidation ... by foobsr · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ... interesting how the semantics (or maybe it is pragmatics) of a word make any further comment obsolete.

    CC.

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  2. When they control...... by commodore64_love · · Score: 5, Insightful

    .....the content, the distribution channel, and the local government-granted monopoly over neighborhoods, then they control the minds of the people.

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    1. Re:When they control...... by j00r0m4nc3r · · Score: 3, Funny

      Well maybe some of the people. Not everyone is locked into Comcast. In fact, nobody is truly locked into Comcast. But perhaps we should start looking for an exposed ventilation shaft that leads to the core of their mothership just in case.

    2. Re:When they control...... by elrous0 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      We're already down to just a few companies that control virtually every media producer and distribution pipeline in the country. It's little surprise these guys oppose net neutrality. Without some sort of government imposed net neutrality, they can essentially shut out even the indie media producers from online distribution. Then they would control pretty much everything we see and hear (or, more importantly, DON'T see and hear).

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    3. Re:When they control...... by elrous0 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Actually, cable-wise you pretty much *are* locked into them if they have the cable franchise in your city and you can't use satellite (your house faces the wrong way, live in an apartment, etc.). And even on the broadband internet side, most people only have 2 or 3 options at the most. In my city, if you don't go Comcast for broadband, the only other option is AT&T DSL (which is limited to a measly 3 Mbps in this city).

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    4. Re:When they control...... by donaggie03 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You seem to have missed a subtle but quite important work in GP's post. " ...nobody is TRULY locked into Comcast . ." So yeah, you can argue about how they have a monopoly in certain areas and some people can't get a satellite connection, but at the end of the day, no one has to sit there watching cable television. If Comcast is the big evil monopoly in your area, and you are anti-Comcast, then just don't watch cable*. So, no. . . nobody is truly locked in.

      *Most OTA stations let you stream the newest episodes from their site the day after it airs on TV. Those shows, and most of the ones not available for streaming, including cable shows, can usually be found on torrent within 12 hours of airtime anyway.

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    5. Re:When they control...... by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yeah, I pay for basic cable service even though it is not plugged into my TV. That's because I want fast internet access and Comcast has bundled them such that signing up for a cable TV service I don't use, saves me money. That is pretty much a conclusive indicator of a broken market that needs to be addressed by antitrust regulators.

    6. Re:When they control...... by powerlord · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Add to that one other word that most people seem to be leaving out of the thoughts: Hulu

      Hulu was started and is still back in large part by NBC.

      It is a distribution mechanism that has the potential to completely obsolete Cable Companies (except as ISPs), and buying NBC might give Comcast a stake in the company, or at least a say in the direction of the company ("Maybe we should run more adverts", "how about a three week delay and only show the last two episodes", "we really shouldn't run 'cable exclusive' content").

      I'm just as happy having Hulu in the hands of content Producers and Over-The-Air broadcasters who are less used to draconian control of the distribution channel (VCR have been around for a while, and Pay-Per-View/On-Demand hasn't been an issue for Broadcast TV).

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    7. Re:When they control...... by tepples · · Score: 2, Insightful

      How can your house face the wrong way?

      Tall radio-opaque building to your south*, or your apartment is on the north* side of the building.

      *Invert this in New Zealand, Australia, South Africa, or Brazil.

    8. Re:When they control...... by thePowerOfGrayskull · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Comcast-NBC will be merging while the economy is on the rise

      Do you really believe that the economy is on the rise? That pumping a couple of trillion dollars of debt into it has magically fixed all of the problems? We'll see a short-term improvement, perhaps, but in the long term we're just building it up to be worse than it ever would have without government "stimulus", tarp, and other such foolishness. /uninformed-but-common-sense-opinion

    9. Re:When they control...... by asv108 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Comcast will probably use the growth of FIOS as the excuse for why the merger should be passed.

    10. Re:When they control...... by ElSupreme · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yes and I actually did this. I am so ANTI-COMCAST that I went 2 years with crappy ATT DSL, and NO cable TV.

      And in a month I will be living on a street with 2 competing Cable providers!!!!! So I can hopefully haggle one down to about 50% normal rates and pay an acceptable amount.
      And I will spout my discount as PROOF of monopolistic, and price fixing tactics on NO COMPETITION cable providers.

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    11. Re:When they control...... by commodore64_love · · Score: 3, Insightful

      >>>I will be living on a street with 2 competing Cable providers!!!!

      Every urban street in the U.S. should have this. And not just 2 providers, but maybe 4 or 5. It is only through competition that you break the back of a monopoly, plus giving choice to the consumer empowers them to run their own lives.

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    12. Re:When they control...... by ericrost · · Score: 2, Informative

      AT&T comes with espn360 streaming, which has formula 1, 3, and nascar racing events live and replayed on demand whenever you want. I'm a huge college football fan who used to pay for the extra package during the season, and I just got sick enough of it that I explored my options.

      There's other isp's that pay for espn360:

      http://espn.go.com/broadband/espn360/affList

  3. False report (according to Comcast) by smooth+wombat · · Score: 2, Informative

    While the news came out, Comcast has since denied it is in a deal to purchase NBC Universal.

    Granted, this is Comcast who is most certainly looking for ways to expand its monopoly and further control what people watch, but for now, there is no deal for them to purchase NBC Universal.

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  4. Re:Lamest rebranding by Dachannien · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Actually, those are pretty good rebranding efforts. They replace a cumbersome word that might not be easy to remember or that doesn't have a good connection with the content of the site with a single short commonly-used word that is on target and easy to remember. (Of course, nobody ever visits either one of these sites unless they come up in a Google search....)

    On the other hand, Sci-Fi's decision to call themselves "Syfy" is simply a lame attempt to justify having professional wrestling in their lineup.

  5. More on media monopoly by MRe_nl · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Critiques of media consolidation involve a number of issues and notions:
    That consolidation and globalization of media over the past decade have been massive.
    That media consolidation is served by government deregulation and subsidization of
    the airwaves.
    That media consolidation and globalization are viewed as predecessors of global
    capitalism.
    That the bottom line of corporate media is profit, not content.
    That media industries have become media oligopolies, that is, media conglomerates
    are not agents of a democratic citizenry, but of a business and state elite.
    That critiques of globalization and corporate power are marginalized.
    That media audiences are treated as consumers rather than citizens.
    That the traditional notion of media having a public interest obligation has
    disappeared.
    That democratically-based media outlets have expanded and while marginalized
    provide an alternative to corporate media messages.

    http://libr.org/amtf//bibliographies/bib.1.pdf

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  6. Great - I can see it now... by the+saltydog · · Score: 5, Insightful

    When the deal is complete, Comcast will raise the rates to carry their newly acquired channels to DirecTV, to ridiculously insane levels, just like they did with the Versus channel... all in an effort to try putting DirecTV out of business. After the royal shafting they tried sticking those of us with their Internet service, but not their cable TV service* (which they referred to as "bundling", but which was, in reality, a "satellite tax"), I will never spend another cent with those greedy bastards. Fuck Comcast.**

    *I had AT&T Broadband, and when Comcast bought them out, they decided to modify their price structure to bring it in line with the rest of the country (their words). In doing so, my bill went from $32.95/mo., to $37.95, to $42.95, and then to $57.95/mo., in the span of less than 10 months. (No promotional rates were involved, either.) The last increase of FIFTEEN dollars a month was because I didn't have cable TV. Funny that I didn't have it at the beginning, and only paid $32.95 a month to AT&T, for the exact same level of speed and service. As far as I'm concerned, Comcast is even more evil and untrustworthy as Microsoft, which is really saying something. Stay classy, Comcast!

    **Come on already, Qwest - where's the FTTH that your commercials keep trying to pitch to me, but I STILL can't get, less than 5 miles from Downtown St. Paul?!?

    1. Re:Great - I can see it now... by pckl300 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      As far as I'm concerned, Comcast is even more evil and untrustworthy as Microsoft, which is really saying something. Stay classy, Comcast!

      It figures your experience was horrible. In the American Customer Satisfaction Index, Comcast has received the lowest customer satisfaction rating of any organization in the US, including the IRS.

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    2. Re:Great - I can see it now... by spitzak · · Score: 2, Funny

      How is it legal for a single company to own BOTH the internet companies in your neighborhood (cable and dsl)? Sounds like a reason to file an antitrust lawsuit.

      OMG! Socialism! How dare you!

    3. Re:Great - I can see it now... by spitzak · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What I meant was making the government do anything is often dismissed as "socialism" even if in this case it is to force competition.

  7. Re:Lamest rebranding by Idbar · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Syfy" is simply a lame attempt to justify having professional wrestling in their lineup.

    Isn't professional wrestling fantasy anyways?

  8. Rebranding? by Blink+Tag · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Syfy has the single lamest rebranding since Spike?

    I think you're forgetting The Shack

  9. Comcast sucks....... by Watsonr8 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Comcast sucks......... limited channels HD and standard, your bill is never what they say it will be my bill jumped from $69.99 a month to $150.00, and this week i order a new dv recorder box and they offered for a tech to come out and "install" the box for the small fee of $99. i had to laugh. Hate to see what they have in store for us with even more of a monopoly.....

  10. I hope this means good things... by ronobot · · Score: 2, Funny

    I hope this means good things for my Sheinhardt Wig Company shares!

  11. In other news comcast also set to purchase... by maggotsforbreakfast · · Score: 3, Funny

    NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Telecom giant Comcast is buying privately held goatse.asia, a top web destination firm, for $3.1 billion in cash, the companies said Friday afternoon. Comcast is set to purchase goatse.asia from private equity firm Hellman & Friedman, which bought the website in 2005 for $1.1 billion in a deal that took the company private. For Comcast, the deal will likely help boost its presence in the area of Internet display advertising, ads on banners, videos and other non-text based types of ads. Goatse.asia specializes on placing and serving banners and other display ads on its prominent Web site. "Comcast is the 800-pound gorilla in online services. They were before this merger and they will be tomorrow so on one level this doesn't change anything," said Derek Brown, an analyst with Cantor Fitzgerald. "But at the same time, this deal clearly has the potential to ignite Comcast's efforts in the display ad market and down the road gives them the opportunity to create a platform that marries both their services and display ads in a way that it will be hard to fathom others imitating," Brown added.

  12. Say good bye to Hulu by Glenstorm · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Fabulous, just when we have an alternative to the cable delivery system become viable. . . I am curious how much this plays into Comcast's desire for NBC. They see people making an end run around their monopoly and are implementing this plan to plug the gap.

  13. Another TechTV... by rwrife · · Score: 2, Funny

    **sarcasm** Don't see why not, they did such a good job with TechTV.

  14. Re:Lamest rebranding by mrsurb · · Score: 2, Interesting

    World's lamest rebranding in my book: The Australian icon Vegemite being renamed iSnack 2.0. Sounds like a joke, but...

  15. No ads? by Malc · · Score: 2, Interesting

    So if the distributor owns the content creator, does that mean no ads? I grew up with paying the equivalent of $20/month for TV and getting no ads, so I found it highly irritating in N. America paying $40/month or more, and being bombarded with the most mindless of advertising.

    Dream on.

  16. Re:Further comment... by ElSupreme · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I would simply happy with:
    - KEEPING my NET CONNECTION UP
    - KEEPING my NET CONNECTION AT AND ACCEPTABLE SPEED.

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  17. Re:Lamest rebranding by Scyber · · Score: 4, Informative

    On the other hand, Sci-Fi's decision to call themselves "Syfy" is simply a lame attempt to justify having professional wrestling in their lineup.

    It was my understanding that the primary issue is that they couldn't trademark Sci-Fi b/c it was a generic term.

  18. Re:Go back to dial-up? by commodore64_love · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Yes they can go back to dialup." by donaggie03

    Okay that isn't fair but I suspect if he were here, and completely honest, that's exactly what he would say. He argues that Comcast is not a monopoly and people have other choices, but he forgets the alternative (50k dialup) is not really a valid choice. You can do a lot over dialup including bittorrent, but you can't watch hulu.com or nbc.com or other tv sites. ----- Also even in areas that have both cable and DSL, that's still just a duopoly... no better than our current political system.

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  19. most annoying leno ever by 0110011001110101 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    if nbc will be run anything like comcasts cable modem division, I assume I will get to watch about 10 minutes of jay lenos new show, then nbc will "go down", at which point I will call into nbc, ask them what the problem is, have them tell me they can see my tv just fine so the problem must be on my end. I'll restart my cable box, but no change. After another 20 minutes on the phone they will tell me more people in my area have reported an issue and that a technician is on the way to the main nbc studio. 45 minutes later nbc will start broadcasting again and the show will be over.

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  20. Re:Further comment... by Obfuscant · · Score: 3, Funny
    Big cities should have 100Mbps, though. There's really no excuse.

    Big American cities, mostly built in the 30's and 40's, before cable, are built of brick and mortar.

    Big Japanese cities are built of ricepaper and bamboo.

    Have you compared how easy it is poking a cable through the wall in Japan to install 100Mbps vs. poking a cable through a brick? And don't EVEN compare how much easier WiMAX will pass through paper vs. steel-reinforced concrete.

    People who live in glass houses don't need sun porches. People who live in paper houses don't need drills.

  21. Re:Lamest rebranding by clampolo · · Score: 3, Funny

    I for one welcome this new management. Maybe it means that they will finally give the fans what they want and come out with Mansquito 2.