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Fake Antivirus Overwhelming Scanners

ChiefMonkeyGrinder writes "Rogue or bogus programs passing themselves off as real antivirus software have been one of the malware themes of 2009, but the APWG's numbers for the first half of the year show that the organisation's members detected 485,000 samples, more than five times the total for the whole of 2008."

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  1. AV2009 To The Rescue by excid3 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm pretty sure that Antivirus 2009 has protected me from emerging threats quite reliably.

    1. Re:AV2009 To The Rescue by Darkness404 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Note to clueless mods, Antivirus 2009 is one of these fake antiviruses, mod them funny, not interesting....

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    2. Re:AV2009 To The Rescue by kimvette · · Score: 5, Informative

      See my other post on this subject. Antivirus XP (and variants) can be removed by hand but it's a tedious process. Malwarebytes removes it VERY easily though. With some Antivirus ($FOO) variants you do need to rename the Malwarebytes installer filename and then the executable filename but once you get the process launched it will fully automate the removal process. IMHO Malwarebytes is the very best ad/malware removal utility at the moment, with Spybot S&D and Superantispyware being tied for a very distant second.

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  2. Are we surprised? by Canazza · · Score: 5, Informative

    Adverts for these things get into legitimate sites all the time through things like adwords, even though they're normally taken off quite sharpish, they're still there. They still cause problems and numpties do click on them. The old IBK error keeps appearing. As long as people aren't educated as to how this all works the problem will remain huge.

    The problem with Anti-virus is that every few years a new guy appears on the block. First it was Norton, then Mcafee, then AVG, Kaspersky, and now whatever AV's the in-thing to use. There are new viruses out there all the time too, and if there's one thing that normal people are aware of it's that there are alot of viruses out there, and that your AV doesn't give 100% protection, so when something pops up saying "You're infected! Our AV will cure it!" they're likely to believe that their current AV is defective, because clearly this one spotted it, they download it and BAM! world of trouble.

    It's depressing sometimes, but gladly, I've not had to remove it from any PCs in a while, whenever I do I recommend they replace their browser with Firefox and Adblock plus (Not noscript, I did that once and I got bollocked for that a bit because 'using the web was too hard as he had to press buttons every site he went on', the guy was a real pleb but nevermind) - and ABP stopped all the ads, and thus, stopped them downloading and installing that shite.

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  3. Re:Pay For Full Version by sopssa · · Score: 5, Funny

    It makes sence to make a virus like this. My buddy got one. It said you have a virus pay us $X for full version of Anti-Virus program to remove it. It was a real pain to remove as I remember.

    I know, I have naively installed Symantec on my computer too...

  4. Norton by Krneki · · Score: 4, Funny

    Still I'd rather have a fake anti-virus then Norton Symantec or Windows Live Family protection. At least the fake anti-virus will let me use my PC every now an then. :)

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  5. Yeah, very very scary... by Obfuscant · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Very very scary. Not.

    My netbook required an update to MacAfee ("free" from Comcast) because one part of it stopped working, and during its first scan, it started reporting a problem. Wouldn't tell me what the problem was unless I let it run for twelve hours to scan the whole system. I tried stopping it and looking at logs, I tried looking at logs while it was running, nothing other than the "ominous" 1 under "detected threats".

    Turned out that it was reporting the crack program that allows me to run Duke Nukem without the CD -- since the netbook doesn't have a damn CD and I own the copy of Duke Nukem. MacAfraid called it "a program you might not want to have".

    Phhhht.

    1. Re:Yeah, very very scary... by Krneki · · Score: 4, Informative

      A classic, they are more interested in stoping you using different no-cd cracks then they are in your security.

      Uninstall this crap.

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  6. OVERWHELMING SCANNERS!! by TrisexualPuppy · · Score: 5, Funny

    In interesting news, a fake antivirus has caused quite the riot with women in their mid-twenties. Due to unemployed data operations programmers trying to earn some money to at least pay their bills, they have created a fake antivirus much like Windows Antivirus 2009. However, this pseudo-antivirus program is smart and employs unique data mining technologies to determine which users are likely to be attractive women in their late teens to late twenties. These victims are then targeted and scammed.
     
    The women are targeted with an algorithm that determines how much proportional web browsing is carried out on Myspace, Facebook, email, and on online clothing shopping sites. By using a modified log-normal distribution, ex-programmers were able to create a model that determined which users were of the targeted age group 86% of the time and which were hot 49% of the time. With the statistical combination, the "antivirus" program learned which users were "hot women" and instructed them to sit on their scanners with their skirts and underwear removed, or else their computers would go up in smoke. As such the demographic is generally technically illiterate, the women have been doing so, scammers have been receiving really nice butt-on-glass pictures, and the scanners themselves--especially the ones marked "HP"--have been completely overwhelmed.

  7. Combofix by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'm posting to say: COMBOFIX. This thing magically removes Antivirus 2009 and 2010, even the rootkit versions that MBAM falters on (or that prevent MBAM from running, even in safe mode).

    http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/combofix/how-to-use-combofix

    Use it. Love it. Marvel at its simplicity, its beauty.

  8. They're well-written by kimvette · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Those are some of the best-written software out there. No, really! The first time I encountered the more advanced ones, almost malware detection/removal software could detect them, and none of them could remove that malware. It was on a system for a friend where reformat/reinstall was not really an option (would have taken more time to do that) so I dug into it. It took 26 hours to completely remove the crap from the system - it had strewn source files through the Windows and System Restore directories, had several hidden processes which monitored process killing and file deletion and would modify, recompile, and reinstall multiple copies of itself again.

    A few weeks later Malwarebytes and Spybot S&D were updated and could easily remove any variant I've come across since then. The first time I hit it was a pain in the neck, then it was routine removal of it for a few weeks (a bit of time consuming but not nearly so much as the first time) and then it became a simple matter of renaming the malwarebytes and Spybot S&D installers, renaming the installed executable and running them. Ad-Aware couldn't detect them - and it's a shame. Ad-Aware is pretty much useless now. It seems that once they gained commercial viability they became complacent.

    The douchebags who write that software aren't stupid. Malware is getting to be extremely well-designed and it's a damned shame those authors aren't doing more productive work.

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  9. Re:Major pain by Krneki · · Score: 4, Informative

    Start with removing them from local Admin group for a start.

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  10. Getting these all over the place by Girtych · · Score: 5, Informative

    I work for a IT department here in California, and we get about three fake-antivirus-infected computers every week. Lately, the malware's been getting more difficult to remove- it's been hooking into system processes so that it can continually replace itself if part of the program gets deleted.
    Thankfully, we've found a fairly nice remedy that doesn't force us to wipe the hard drive. Don't bother with Ad-Aware or Spybot S&D anymore- they've become very ineffective as of late.

    First we hit it with a scan from Malwarebytes Anti-Malware, a free scanner you can download here: http://download.cnet.com/Malwarebytes-Anti-Malware/3000-8022_4-10804572.html?tag=mncol

    Then, on the infected computer, we download and run (in safe mode) a somewhat obscure free program called Combofix, which is available here: http://www.combofix.org/

    After that, we run one more follow-up scan with Malwarebytes to ensure that the computer is clean.

    So far, this combination of steps has eliminated the infections that we've come across.

    1. Re:Getting these all over the place by Ephemeriis · · Score: 4, Informative

      There seems to be very little response from the traditional/big/mainstream antivirus companies.

      We usually install something centrally-managed for our clients, like Panda or Symantec. They do a decent job of stopping viruses, and it makes for less work for us... But they do absolutely nothing for these new rogue things. They don't get detected, they don't get blocked, they don't get removed... Nothing at all.

      You wind up having to actually sit down at the machine and run through a battery of individual scans... Slaving the HDD to another machine, booting into safe mode, booting into normal mode... Far more time-consuming than I'd like.

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    2. Re:Getting these all over the place by Z34107 · · Score: 4, Informative

      ^This.

      I work help desk at the college I'm enrolled at, and removing this virus and its variants from student laptops is pretty much the entirety of my job description.

      I recommend running ComboFix first, because it will generally neuter a virus enough for MalwareBytes to install and remove it. If the virus keeps ComboFix from running, rename it to magickitties.exe - some kill AV processes by name.

      Anything more interesting than that, download the free Windows AIK. Make an image of the drive using ImageX. Mount the image (and the registry hives on the image) on a clean PC and do a scan on that. Reimage the PC with the clean image.

      Just creating an image with ImageX is sometimes sufficient to remove the rootkit portions. ImageX is file based, and the rootkit portions hide from the MFT. ImageX simply fails to gather the rootkit portion, because it hides too well.

      Usually, all it takes is 10 minutes of letting ComboFix run and 30 minutes of letting MalwareBytes run. Very slick.

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  11. frustrating as hell by Ephemeriis · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What really annoys me is the fact that the mainstream antivirus products (Panda, Symantec, McAfee, etc.) do such a crappy job of dealing with these rogue antivirus things. Most of them don't do a thing. Don't detect the rogue stuff, don't disinfect it, nothing.

    Which means that we have to use something like Malwarebytes or Spyware Doctor to remove them.

    This is especially annoying for us... We're outsourced IT for our clients. We aren't there every day to take care of everything they need. We set things up as safely and securely as we can, manage it all as best we can, but we can't lock things down as tightly as I'd like because these folks need to be able to operate without us - installing their own software and updates, things like that. So it's only a matter of time before one of our clients stumbles into one of these rogue antivirus products.

    Does anyone know of a good, centrally-managed (like Symantec of Panda) anti-virus/malware package that actually detects these rogue things?

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  12. Re:The worst offenders by Deathlizard · · Score: 5, Informative

    To remove norton, Don't bother with the uninstaller. Get the Norton Removal tool from their site:

    http://service1.symantec.com/Support/tsgeninfo.nsf/docid/2005033108162039

    This is for ANY install of ANY norton products. It also gets rid of shared files and their registry settings.

  13. Motivation by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This is all the free market working against the unfree market. In a free market competitors work to make the best product to make the most money. Right now, that's malware writers, each trying to outdo one another and make the best trojans to get the most bots and personal info.

    In a free market consumers would buy computers best suited to deal with this threat, with defenses that appropriately reduce this threat to a small subset of their customers. But, since we have one player with a huge amount of influence on the desktop OS market, with huge influence on computer makers and other markets and who has built substantial barriers to prevent consumers from trying other options, desktop OS's are not adapting appropriately. Why should they if it is not losing them significant money?

    Trojans aren't some unsolvable problem, but for the most part they are a problem that needs to be dealt with at the OS level. Add on software from computer makers is only going to be partially effective. SELinux, for example, does a reasonable job of mitigating trojans in the secure workstation market, but has not been adapted to the consumer desktop market as yet because it requires integration on the part of application developers and there is no real motivation to do that. Linux and OS X desktops don't face significant levels of attack. Windows doesn't lose real money when it fails to defend against them. Why would anyone who understands the benefits of free market capitalism expect anything but to have malware writers win. They have direct, financial motivation.

    Seriously, MS could easily create a sandboxed backwards compatibility layer (they already have). They could easily require all software that did not have a proper signature and an ACL to run in a restricted sandbox. They could dump money into crafting a good UI for it and motivating developers by restricting access to new, useful APIs. The real question is, why should they, as a business, spend that money?

    I have a modest proposal that will solve this problem and a lot of other problems all stemming from the same cause. Break up Microsoft. Seriously. They're repeat offender antitrust violators. Break them up and give at least two new companies complete rights to use all the source code and patents and an equal portion of the human resources and capital. Forbid these companies from any nonpublic communication or any agreements they don't offer to other companies with the same terms.

    When you have executives at MS-A and at MS-B both realizing they have to do something to win sales contracts from Dell and HP and Sony and Asus guess what, they'll have to compete. Then their financial well being will depend upon which can deliver a better product at a lower price. Neither will be able to strongarm customers or people in other markets. They'll have motivation to fix the flaws in Windows and the accompanying software that people have been learning to work around for decades. And neither company will have to worry about antitrust concerns and will be able to bundle whatever crap they want including their version of IE. I'd be willing to bet if our justice department had the balls, the malware problem would be a minor annoyance in 5 years time.

  14. Re:The worst offenders by Darinbob · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's really sad when the company provides their own removal tool. It works, but it makes you wonder why they don't just fix the uninstaller...

  15. Re:Major pain by Real1tyCzech · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Admin rights are required on all the computers for access to active directory and such."

    BZZT!

    Access to AD only requires the *user* have admin rights, not the Computer.

    Try this (has worked wonders for us):

    Create two accounts for each user. One for day-today use, one for AD admin tasks. (Add AD in front of their username or some such) Secure their day-to-day as a limited user account. Lock the admin account down. Don't even give them proxy access or network share access.

    Create a shortcut on their desktops (to dsa.msc, or whatever) and right-click it. Under properties/advanced, set it to run with alternate credentials.

    Now, when they log into their day-to-day accounts, they can still open the dsa shortcut and enter i their "admin" account credentials to manage the AD, but now neither the AD account or their mornal day-to-day account will be capable of installing "AV2009".

    Seriously, try it.

    Problem solved.