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Corporations Now Have a Right To "Personal Privacy"

I Don't Believe in Imaginary Property writes "Thanks to a recent ruling (PDF) by the US Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit, corporations now have a right to 'personal privacy,' due to the application of a carelessly worded definition in the Freedom of Information Act. FOIA exempts disclosure of certain records, but only if it 'could reasonably be expected to constitute an unwarranted invasion of personal privacy.' But in its definitions, FOIA makes the mistake of broadly defining 'person' to include legal entities, like corporations. The FCC didn't think that 'personal privacy' could apply to a corporation, so they ignored AT&T's claim that releasing data from an investigation into how AT&T was overcharging certain customers would violate the corporation's privacy. The Third Circuit thought that the FCC's actions were contrary to what the law actually says. So now the FCC has to jump through more hoops to show that releasing data on their investigation into AT&T's overcharging is 'warranted' within the meaning of 5 USC 552(b)(7)(c) before it can release anything."

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  1. Why do corporations have to be people? by danaris · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Seriously. Can anyone with a legal background explain what part of corporate daily business requires that corporations be legally considered equivalent to people?

    If there's nothing truly fundamental that requires it, I think it might be time to start writing letters to our representatives and senators asking that corporate personhood be revoked, or at least replaced with something much more watered-down. It's really starting to go too far...

    Dan Aris

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    1. Re:Why do corporations have to be people? by TheRealMindChild · · Score: 4, Insightful

      While this "loophole" seems bad on the surface, maybe it isn't. If corporations are considered people, perhaps we can start locking them up/shutting them down when they are breaking the law... you know... just like everyone else.

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    2. Re:Why do corporations have to be people? by Alien+Being · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "I think it might be time to start writing letters to our representatives..."

      The irony is that they won't listen to you unless you send corporate lobbyists with bags of money.

    3. Re:Why do corporations have to be people? by jeffasselin · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I concur. The whole corpocratic oligarchy mess stems from giving corporations rights which should be reserved for actual people. Giving "rights" to entities like corporations, but without them having the same restrictions and motivations as an actual human being (like reason, conscience, morality and guilt) is the source of the biggest issues facing us since the later 20th century: the corporations are now in control of our government, our institutions and our resources. They have all this power but no real responsibility behind it.

      They care only about one thing: making the most profit for their shareholders as possible. They will do anything, including killing people and destroying the planet, to achieve this goal. They are the ultimate parasite.

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    4. Re:Why do corporations have to be people? by sjames · · Score: 5, Insightful

      So you're saying corporations are the new nobility? (not that I'm disagreeing with you). In a country that forbids the very concept of a nobility? Perhaps we should look to French history for guidance in the proper handling of nobility!

    5. Re:Why do corporations have to be people? by Daimanta · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "Perhaps we should look to French history for guidance in the proper handling of nobility!"

      With a massive reign of terror?

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    6. Re:Why do corporations have to be people? by Dog-Cow · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Corporations do not care one whit for the shareholders. This is a gross misconception I see repeated here often.

      "Corporations", this is: the Board of Directors, only cares about increasing the wealth of the Board of Directors.

      Most shareholders have little or no say in what the corporation does, thanks to the invention of non-voting stock.

    7. Re:Why do corporations have to be people? by MickyTheIdiot · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You're missing a really big item on your list (no reason, conscience, morality, and guilt)... corporations don't have the restriction of *death.* When people amass huge amounts of power at the very least they are going to die someday and that power will dissipate. Corporations are essentially immortal. Remember that scene in the Highlander when he shows his girlfriend all those priceless artifacts? It's the same idea.

      Corporations should not be treated like people because they don't operate under the same constraints as people. As a matter of fact the lack of accountability that the Limited Liability Corporation structure gives individuals is a great enabler of evil. People do things behind the shield of the corporate structure they would NEVER do otherwise. We need to go back to the founding father's concept of corporations and move away to what it morphed into during the 1800s big railway era.

    8. Re:Why do corporations have to be people? by Rob+the+Bold · · Score: 5, Insightful

      So you're saying corporations are the new nobility? (not that I'm disagreeing with you). In a country that forbids the very concept of a nobility? Perhaps we should look to French history for guidance in the proper handling of nobility!

      That's rather a good way of thinking about it. All the rights of commoners, plus some, and none of the responsibilities. They have ear of the government -- their concerns weigh upon the state much more than the riff-raff. If a company is threatened, it claims how its employees would suffer were it sanctioned, just as a nobleman might cite his responsibilities to his peasants. And of course, most of the money.

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    9. Re:Why do corporations have to be people? by interkin3tic · · Score: 4, Insightful

      With a massive reign of terror?

      More specifically, terrorizing overpaid CEOs and executive boards with the guillotine.

    10. Re:Why do corporations have to be people? by commodore64_love · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Here's a good place to start: AMENDMENT __: "The enumerated rights and privileges apply only to individuals." QED no more free speech, privacy, or other rights would apply to corporations. The individuals inside the corporation would still have rights, but not the corporation itself, which make it easier to regulate it, audit it, and restrain its power.

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    11. Re:Why do corporations have to be people? by Rob+the+Bold · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Firstly, if a corporation couldn't make a profit anymore then it would "un-incorporate" and possibly a new corporation with a different name and the same people would pop up. I have heard of this happening for smaller limited-liability corporations that specialized in government bid projects and were banned from bidding. They just started over with a new name. The government, local, state or federal, is so bureaucratically constrained that this seems to work most of the time.

      I've been thinking about this for a little while now. When I read the story in Wired about people disappearing and trying to start a new life (and the accompanying "find the author" contest), I got to wondering why a person who'd screwed up couldn't just "re-incorporate" themselves and move on. Apparently, it's because our identity is inextricably linked to our physical body, not just our name. If we go to jail, our body is kept there. If we try to evade out debts by changing our name, our creditors will try to track down our body and still try to collect their "pound of flesh" from it.

      A corporation can get away with these things because it doesn't have a physical body. Its body is its capitalization. So "jailing" a company would mean restricting the movement of its capital, i.e. its accounts, assets, patent portfolio, land, plant, etc. Locking up a company would therefore look like "nationalizing" it. Shareholders could go right ahead and invest in a new company, but without their old capital.

      This thought is a work in progress.

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  3. Re:Hooray for lawyers and lobbiests! by HogGeek · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "VOTE FOR SMARTER CONGRESSPEOPLE"

    In order to vote for them, they need to actually run for the office...

  4. Jury duty? by danaris · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I consider myself reasonably smart, and I wouldn't mind serving on a jury.

    Only problem is, from everything I've seen and heard, my intelligence, basic working knowledge of the legal system, inquisitive mind, and sense of justice would result in me getting removed in the first round of jury selection.

    Dan Aris

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