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Did Chicago Lose Olympic Bid Due To US Passport Control?

An anonymous reader writes "Yesterday, Chicago lost its bid for the 2016 Olympics (which went to Rio de Janeiro instead), and it's looking very likely that US border procedures were one of the main factors which knocked Chicago out of the race: 'Among the toughest questions posed to the Chicago bid team this week in Copenhagen was one that raised the issue of what kind of welcome foreigners would get from airport officials when they arrived in this country to attend the Games. Syed Shahid Ali, an I.O.C. member from Pakistan, in the question-and-answer session following Chicago's official presentation, pointed out that entering the United States can be "a rather harrowing experience." ... The exchange underscores what tourism officials here have been saying for years about the sometimes rigorous entry process for foreigners, which they see as a deterrent to tourism.'"

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  1. I'm sure it didn't help. by jcr · · Score: 5, Informative

    Everyone I know who visits the USA these days tells me what a pain in the ass it is to travel here now. I'm sure everyone on the IOC knows all about that.

    -jcr

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    1. Re:I'm sure it didn't help. by h4rm0ny · · Score: 5, Informative


      And let me tell you, if people from the UK are telling you that your border-control is unwelcoming, then it must be! I also live in the UK. You can bounce around Europe crossing borders with little more than a wave of your passport and a friendly nod. Then when you come back to the UK, it's a bit of a shock. Most of the EU find Britain rather silly with how worked up about its borders it gets, given that the rest of it manages with less pomp *and* has direct land passage to outside countries. I've also heard some strong complaints from people I know about entering the US. Aren't they asking for retinal scans or fingerprints in some places, now?

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    2. Re:I'm sure it didn't help. by FonzCam · · Score: 5, Informative

      US immigration and security go beyond being serious to the point that they come across as rude and unhelpful. UK airport security have pulled me aside for a random search whilst joking that it was due to the sports team jersey I was wearing. On a quiet day arriving in amsterdam I've had a guy call over his supervisor just so they could make make stern faces make me worry and then crack a joke about my passport photo. I've chatted with Polish boarder guards about their visits to my home country and had a French immigration officer laugh at my appalling French. Entering the US I've see people infuriated by officers who will tell them only that they have filled in the wrong green form, or filled the right one incorrectly but will offer no more help to non-english speaking visitors then to send them back to the back of the line. I've waited hours whilst people attempt to have their fingerprints scanned whilst having orders barked at them because they misunderstood the instructions. Most immigration officers I've encountered try to ask questions in a friendly conversational style but in the US it's a cross between an interrogation and a telemarketing script. After a few visits you learn the keywords for your answers and they let you through no problem!

    3. Re:I'm sure it didn't help. by Lumpy · · Score: 5, Informative

      Every entry point takes fingerprints of every visitor who is not a US Citizen or legal US Resident.

      Incorreect. there are at least 20 entry points at the northern border that are unmanned and simply have a phone there asking you tell them you are crossing the border.

      If you fly into Canada and then drive to the USA, you can bypass all that crap, hell you can easily enter and leave without anyone knowing you were here in a few places.

      Our security is a complete and utter dog and pony show that is 100% worthless in stopping the Evil-guys.

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  2. "The most ridiculous interview..." by Guppy · · Score: 5, Informative

    "The most ridiculous interview I heard with my own ears:
      Interviewer: "What did you have this morning as breakfast?"
      Applicant: "Bread." I: "Nothing else?"
      Applicant: "No."
      Interviewer: "According to American law, we cannot grant you a visa."
      Applicant: "....".

    I was sitting beside the person when he was rejected. You know, it is funny to reject someone according American law just because he only had bread in the morning."

    From http://home.wangjianshuo.com/archives/20060519_getting_us_visa_in_china.htm

  3. Re:Brazil's passport system is no picnic either by JamesP · · Score: 5, Informative

    No, they just make you go through the exact same thing a Brazilian citizen goes while going to your contry.

    If you're from a Schengen country, come on in. If you're from the US, you need a visa, you need to have your fingerprints taken, etc, etc

    Reciprocity's a bitch, isn't it.

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  4. US Customs Isn't Kind To US Citizens, Either by damn_registrars · · Score: 5, Informative

    They are concerned about what US Customs would do to foreigners, they should look at what they do to citizens. I was born and raised in the states, and still live in a state near a border. I recently crossed back into the states (by car) after 5 days in a neighboring country. I pulled up to customs and had to turn off my car and hand my keys to a leather-gloved customs officer so he could search my trunk, while I stayed in my car. I was not allowed to see what he was doing; he could have easily taken items from my trunk or placed items in my trunk without my knowing it. Eventually they cleared me but offered no explanation for what they were doing.

    I have had similar experiences in the past as well, I once had to pull from the customs booth to the "additional screening" building (single car garage with doors on both ends) where I had to empty my trunk for a customs agent.

    So I can't say I'm surprised if the security theater here was a deciding factor against having another Olympics here. Certainly our procedures have changed a fair bit since 1996.

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