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Ballmer: Don't Expect Simpler Licensing Soon

nk497 writes "Steve Ballmer has admitted Microsoft's licensing is too complicated and contains too much fine print, but has no plans to change it at the risk of angering shareholders — and even customers who benefit from the confusion. "I'm sure we have fine print we don't need. We're not saints," he said, adding that customers have a way of figuring out how to pay the least amount of cash possible to use Microsoft's software. "Customers always find an approach which pays us less money.""

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  1. Absolutly by afidel · · Score: 5, Informative

    We take advantage of MSDN, it's MUCH cheaper to pay for MSDN subscriptions for our technical staff then it is to pay for ~2/3rd's of our environment (Dev+Test). It's also nice to use Windows Datacenter licenses to pay for an entire stack of VM's.

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  2. Re:WTF? by Sockatume · · Score: 4, Informative

    He's talking about bulk-licencing customers. Corporations and educational institutions.

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    No kidding!!! What do you say at this point?
  3. Retail Customers by Fear13ss · · Score: 4, Informative

    As a past employee of a Retail store, I know for a fact that they always find a way to make customers pay much more then is necessary for everything they can, up to and including OS's. I don't know how many people were sold on "Media Center" functionality they never used and that's just scratching the surface. As for the Obligatory Open Source comment, our licensing is much more simple. http://www.ubuntu.com/community/ubuntustory/licensing

  4. Re:Ballmer: "We're not saints" by CannonballHead · · Score: 4, Informative

    When was the last time Microsoft did something the customers wanted, instead of forcing them to "take it or leave it".

    I've never been forced to. I upgrade/install on my own. Work/corporate environment is a different story, but at home I choose my OS.

    When was the last time any Office application didn't brake file compatibility with previous versions.

    Saving or reading? I just save in XP/2000/2007 format. Works fine, including with openoffice, which is what I use anyway.

    When was the last time you felt like you actually own a Microsoft software product, and don't have to rent it AND justify yourself every time you need to install it on a new computer?

    I've installed and re-installed XP many, many times. I have always felt like I owned it. I've installed Vista (and Windows 7, actually) multiple times with no problem. Yes, I "register" or activate it. No issues with it. Even the phone activation is quite simple. Some of my other software, like Sibelius gives me a much, much, much harder time with activation and whatnot. But it's good software and I like using it, so I deal with it.

    Last time some Microsoft protocol didn't break compatibility with competing, or even older own protocols?

    Like what?

    I don't know, it feels like forever.

    When was the last time you USED a Microsoft OS (or Office)?

  5. Even MS can't understand it by sjames · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's remarkable really. Even MS support can't tell you consistently what you actually need to be legal for a given situation. Call three times with the same scenario and get three different answers.

    Talk about business risks, you're just begging to have the BSA commandos sweep in and decide that whatever you guessed (or what MS told you to do) isn't correct and you are now a dirty thief who owes a pile of cash. No, thanks!

    If they're going to get all bent out of shape about license compliance, the onus is on them to make it possible to know with certainty what you must do (and spend) in order to be compliant. Given that their own support people aren't sure, I'd say they failed miserably.

  6. Re:Building PC's by MindPrison · · Score: 4, Informative

    Same here, until my last computer - that is.

    Prebuilt consumer computers are really crappy. Take my latest HP Pavillion Quad Core as an example, after 1 month, the keyboard stopped working, after 3 months the wireless module went to wifi-heaven where little wifi things go (All wifi's goes to heaven, the movie), and after the 5th month, the DVD stopped accepting pretty much any DVD & games even though there where no dust. I'm just waiting for the next thing to break for no reason. At work it's the same thing, the pre-built one breaks down, not the ones I built - they still stand!

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