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Why the Sony PSP Had To "Go"

We recently discussed the release of the PSP Go, which drew criticism for many design choices that were of dubious value to consumers. Now, Phaethon360 sends in a story about why Sony felt the need to improve upon the old PSP. "As a format, the UMD was holding the entire platform back. Few people (if anyone) bought into the UMD movie hype Sony attempted to thrust back in 2005. Very soon after that, people realized they could rip their DVDs to a memory stick with the same quality. It's ironic how, as the price of Sony Memory Stick Pro Duo dropped and size increased, PSP UMD sales decreased along with it. It doesn't take too many Howard Stringers to figure out what the problem was." Indeed, Sony was complaining of rampant PSP piracy for quite some time. They cited "legal and technical issues" for not supporting the transfer of UMD games onto the PSP Go; undoubtedly they couldn't find a way to keep pirated games from being copied.

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  1. Someone call Natalie by AlXtreme · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's ironic how, as the price of Sony Memory Stick Pro Duo dropped and size increased, PSP UMD sales decreased along with it.

    No, it's not.

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    1. Re:Someone call Natalie by Nik13 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Sony memory card pricing hurts them in many ways. It's one of the many reasons I won't buy a Sony camera (no, it's not that I can't pirate pictures or whatever). My favorite shop's prices:

      2GB SD card: $8 but I've seen them as low as $6 before.
      4GB SD card: $13
      8GB SD card: $19
      16GB SD card: $33
      32GB SD card: $85

      2GB MS Duo card: $27
      4GB MS Duo card: $35
      8GB MS Duo card: $60
      16GB MS Duo card: $150
      32GB MS Duo card: $250

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    2. Re:Someone call Natalie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Yeah, cuz $30 for an 8gb MS Pro Duo that I paid at Wal-mart the other day is absolutely way too much.

      And no, it wasn't a generic brand, it was Sandisk, which I trust more than Sony's brand.

    3. Re:Someone call Natalie by mcgrew · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's one of the many reasons I won't buy a Sony camera

      There is only one reason I won't buy a Sony camera -- I was an XCP victim. You would have to be a complete and utter moron to buy anything digital from a company with a history of rooting their own customers' computers.

      I can't figure out how Sony is still in business, are there that many stupid people in the world who will buy froma company that has shown nothing but contempt for their customers? No wonder the economy collapsed. If a company like Sony can stay in business, yours surely can too, no matter how bad it is.

  2. Movie failure. by Hozza · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Sony can only blame itself for the failure of UMD movies. When the PSP first came out I was looking forward to having portable movies, but they cost significantly more than DVD's even though they were lower quality and could only be viewed on one device (the PSP 1000 had no video out), it was no wonder they didn't sell.

    1. Re:Movie failure. by Nursie · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yes, doomed I tell you!

      Ignore the millions of units of PSPs, PS3s, cameras, tvs and everything else, they're doomed!

      I love this site for this stuff. It's almost as if geeks believe in the legendary "informed consumer" who will act (en-masse in fact) to deny profit to companies that abuse him or her for their own ends. Unfortunately, we don't live in that world. Sony will continue to do just fine, and the people with technical/ethical problems with what they are doing will be swept under in a wave of apathy and "Oooh, shiny".

  3. Re:UMD transfer the what what? by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Presumably, unless each UMD has a unique serial number, and the hypothetical UMD-to-PSP Go converter phones it home, there would be no way for Sony to keep a given UMD disk from being turned into N copies, all blessed by Sony.

    And, even if there are unique serial numbers, and they could make that work, any official mechanism that produces blessed copies of legacy applications would presumably be a logical target for attackers.

    And/or because Sony's secret bylaws compel them to treat their customers with precisely equal amounts of hatred and contempt at all times.

  4. Re:UMD transfer the what what? by ThePhilips · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Presumably, unless each UMD has a unique serial number, and the hypothetical UMD-to-PSP Go converter phones it home, there would be no way for Sony to keep a given UMD disk from being turned into N copies, all blessed by Sony.

    What about accepting reality that pirates already enjoy the premium service - and providing legit customers with the something similar??

    Or Sony felt compelled to feed the pirates with new and more justifications to do what they did before?

    And/or because Sony's secret bylaws compel them to treat their customers with precisely equal amounts of hatred and contempt at all times.

    That's more like it.

    Sony and Nintendo are quite similar that they pretty much always dismiss their own customers. That's why people are so divided: they either love it or hate it. It feels like their R&Ds live and work in some sort of isolated underground lab where novelties like internet and forums are not available. And all of customer feedback is substituted with directives and memos from upper management. Well, at least Nintendo has the luminary Miyamoto (who is already "upper management") and his games have some loyal fans.

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  5. UMD and Minidisc by rarel · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Their major blunder with the PSP/UMD was to redesign an existing concepot (the Minidisc) as the UMD to differentiate between the new shiny better one and the old.

    Thing is, the Minidisc had a minor but loyal following, and in 2004 got a major upgrade with the Hi-MD format that allowed data and video to be trasnferred on top of music. And the major advantage of the format compared to the newfangled UMD was that it was rewritable.

    If they had released the PSP with Minidisc games, videos and whatnot, I'm sure the console's story would have been completely different. Even with the Memory stick slot on the side. Both rewritable formats, and they'd have been SONY so presumably they wouldn't have lost anything. Of course that would have meant trusting the customers with an relatively open media, and that's something they're allergic to.

    Instead they created the UMDs, closed and crippled them, and tried to sell them at the same price as full blown DVDs. No wonder it didn't take off. Meh.

    1. Re:UMD and Minidisc by wrook · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Minidiscs are still extremely popular here in Japan. I don't really understand why, but virtually everybody I know has a minidisc system. I sometimes think Sony lives in a Japan-centric bubble. They make decisions based on what they can get away with in Japan (quite a lot) and figure it will work for the rest of the world. It really doesn't. Slowly, though, I see things changing. The high school students I teach here are moving away from Sony as far as I can tell. I wouldn't be surprised if in 10 years Sony collapses based on their inability to see reality.

  6. Re:And because of piracy... by ObsessiveMathsFreak · · Score: 2, Insightful

    1) on a console where they are locked up tighter than a stereotypical tight-ass' asshole.

    Actually Sony are quite permissive when it comes to user control of downloaded content. You can install content you've purchased on up to five PS3's and every user account, whether on PSN or not, can use any content downloaded by another account on the same PS3. As DRM goes, I've seen a lot worse that what goes on at the Playstation Store, and I've rarely seen something better. Hopefully, Microsoft will see that this method works and will down their current policies in the next generation of consoles.

    That said, Sony has a bad policy with regard to the encryption of data stored on the PS3. Let me put it this way; Backup your saves often.

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  7. Re:UMD transfer the what what? by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Sony? Probably both.

  8. Re:And because of piracy... by Nursie · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Nonsense.

    Piracy is rampant and easy on the PSP at present, but not everyone does it.

    I use hacked firmware on my PSP, sure, because I rip my games to MemStick. I hate having to carry the UMDs around, loading times improve and the battery life is better. I also have a genesis emulator on their and some ROMS of games I used to own as a kid. That may or may not be considered piracy I guess.

    But I still pay for games and will continue to do so. I will also crack the Go if I ever get one because you can bet your ass that there won't be a mechanism to resell games you've bought, plus I would feel the moral right to transfer my current UMD based games.

  9. Re:Movies??? - pfui - GAMES by calagan800xl · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Many people (including you apparently) don't get the fact that the PSPGo is not meant to be a replacement for the PSP-3000. The UMD-friendly PSP will still be available after the PSPGo's launch, so the comparison with the PS3 is not really relevant

  10. Re:And because of piracy... by Shakrai · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Actually Sony are quite permissive when it comes to user control of downloaded content. You can install content you've purchased on up to five PS3's and every user account, whether on PSN or not, can use any content downloaded by another account on the same PS3.

    It's pretty sad when the indoctrination has reached even /. and we think that it's "quite permissive" for a company to allow you to use the content you purchased on devices that you own. How nice of them to be that "permissive".

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  11. Re:And because of piracy... by Jaysyn · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Ooh, a PSP port of Battle for Wesnoth would be awesome!

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  12. Technical Issues by TheCRAIGGERS · · Score: 2, Insightful

    They cited "legal and technical issues" for not supporting the transfer of UMD games onto the PSP Go; undoubtedly they couldn't find a way to keep pirated games from being copied.

    ...Yeah right. When the UMD was first released Sony expected people to re-buy their movies on UMD discs. And now people are surprised the hear that Sony expects them to re-buy games?

    I'd say the only technical issue they ran into was not being able to find a way to charge for the service of transferring your UMD disc to your Go's flash.

  13. Re:And because of piracy... by wed128 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I assume you're referring to "Team America: World Police", which was quite disappointing if you ask me... But the plot of the average South Park episode is WAY more stunning than what most people would expect from a construction paper cartoon that makes a lot of poop jokes...

  14. Re:Not much chance of re-selling with a download by commodore64_love · · Score: 3, Insightful

    P.S.

    The PSP Go reminds me of another frak-up by an earlier company called Commodore. They had the extremely-popular Amiga 500, then released a 600 that was supposed to be an upgrade, but was actually less functional (no keypad, not backwards-compatible with old games, and not expandable). According to their chief engineer Dave Haynie, the A600 "was supposed to be $50-$60 cheaper than the A500, but it came in at about that much more expensive than the A500." The Managing Director of Commodore UK, David Pleasance, described the A600 as a "complete and utter screw-up."

    I suspect ten years from now we'll see Sony engineers saying the PSP GO started as a good idea, but due to poor management and bad decisions, became a complete and utter screw-up, and about $100 more expensive than it was meant to be.

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  15. Re:And because of piracy... by MrFurious5150 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Logically, then, once a user has licensed a particular piece of content, that same piece of content should then be available to the user for each succeeding generation of media. Buy a movie on VHS, get the DVD five years later for only the cost of the media. Five years later, get the Blu-Ray for only the cost of the media. Five years later, get the UberVideoHiRes digital download for only the cost of the bandwidth.

    Right?

    Content providers should not get to have it both ways.