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IBM Researchers Working Toward Cheap, Fast DNA Reader

nk497 writes "IBM scientists are working on ambitious research where nano-sized holes will be drilled into computer chips and DNA passed through to create a 'genetic code reader.' A DNA molecule would be passed through a hole just three nanometers wide, while an electrical sensor 'reads' the DNA. The challenge of the silicon-based 'DNA Transistor' would be to slow and control the motion of the DNA through the hole so the reader could decode what is inside it. IBM claimed that if the project was successful it could make personalised genome analysis as cheap as $100 to $1,000, and compared it to the first-ever sequencing done for the Human Genome Project, which cost $3 billion."

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  1. Amazing! by newcastlejon · · Score: 2, Interesting

    All that remains now, I guess, is a device that can write arbitrary stands of DNA.

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    1. Re:Amazing! by toppavak · · Score: 5, Informative

      Oh its been done. In fact, ordering custom DNA sequences is pretty cheap.

    2. Re:Amazing! by SEWilco · · Score: 2, Funny

      Actually, first we need a device to thread DNA through a tiny hole.

  2. Re:Cynicism by Lloyd_Bryant · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Why is it that multibillion dollar companies are constantly researching exciting new tech that makes it more and more impossible for us to remain annonymous? Just once, I want to see IBM or somebody backing Tor or Freenet or something similar.

    Please remember that IBM is, like most corporations, a for-profit entity. Which means that the vast majority of their research is going to be aimed at projects that will allow them to make a buck.

    In short - Tor and Freenet don't spend gazillions of dollars on technologies, while governments do.

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  3. Other uses by NoYob · · Score: 2, Insightful

    âoeUltimately it could improve the quality of medical care by identifying patients who will gain the greatest benefit from a particular medicine and those who are at most at risk of adverse reaction,â he added.

    Insurance companies will use it to deny health insurance outright or label any diseases that this thing finds as "pre-existing conditions".

    Travelers to the US will have to stick their fingers and give a DNA sample along with their finger prints and photo.

    Government will use for the "war on [insert buzzword here]"

    Genetic propensity for mental illness, well, we'll have to keep an eye on you! Especially, if there is some sort of genetic predisposition towards pedophilia - think of the children!

    Have to take this DNA test as part of our drug screening. Predisposition towards alcoholism or any other disease or disorder that will send our health care costs through the roof? Well, you don't have the necessary "skills" for this job. Sorry, best of luck finding another job. (Yeah, good luck in proving that we violated the ADA or EEOC!)

    nothing but good (TM) can come of this!

    It's interesting. While editing this post, my cursor stays as a pointer on the right side of the entry field. To edit, I had to click to the left and then use the arrow keys to get to the right. Any spelling errors left are Slashdot's fault so flame them.

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    1. Re:Other uses by Taibhsear · · Score: 2, Informative

      Insurance companies will use it to deny health insurance outright or label any diseases that this thing finds as "pre-existing conditions".

      There is already a law banning them from doing this.

    2. Re:Other uses by Taibhsear · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You prove it by the piece of paper that tells you your health benefits was denied because of a pre-existing condition. Your records will show if you've had treatment for it or not. It's not a conspiracy/finger pointing kind of thing. Proof is easily come by.

    3. Re:Other uses by Shakrai · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Well, since you are being a complete nay-sayer to further your own agenda, allow me to respond with some other potential uses of this technology:

      Law enforcement will use it to help solve crime.

      The innocence project will use it to get wrongfully convicted people out of prison/off death row.

      Businesses and private individuals will be able to use it to enhance the security of their homes/offices/factories/etc.

      Adopted children will be able to use it to figure out who their biological parents are.

      The child support system will be able to use it to weed out those who aren't parents and confirm those who are.

      The point I'm trying to make is that technology isn't inherently good or evil. It's what we do with it that matters. I find it disturbing that you couldn't name a single positive use for this technology.

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    4. Re:Other uses by interkin3tic · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Have to take this DNA test as part of our drug screening. Predisposition towards alcoholism or any other disease or disorder that will send our health care costs through the roof? Well, you don't have the necessary "skills" for this job. Sorry, best of luck finding another job. (Yeah, good luck in proving that we violated the ADA or EEOC!)

      nothing but good (TM) can come of this!

      Incredibly short sighted. I sequence DNA all the time, it's a valuable tool for biomedical research. If sequencing my samples took a matter of hours instead of days, that would really speed thing up. My research is on neural stem cells. I may be an idiot, but I think my research could eventually lead to some findings that would be useful to many people. Shortening the amount of time it will take me to find stuff is, in my opinion, a good thing, and not just for me. The same is true for most biologists.

      So this could speed up a lot of biomedical research. It will also bring new research projects into the realm of feasibility, some of those could be extremely valuable too.

      Sarcastically saying nothing but good can come of this technology? That's more ridiculous applied here than it would be about a faster computer processor.

  4. Challenge by Taibhsear · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Well I would imagine that slowing and controlling the motion of the DNA wouldn't be all that difficult. DNA has a net negative charge due to the backbone. However, how the EM fields they'd use to manipulate it would interact with the circuitry of the reader I do not know. That might be the real challenge.

  5. I Smell Synergy! by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 3, Insightful

    High speed, computer-assisted, genetic analysis technology should go beautifully with IBM's existing expertise in Data-driven eugenics solutions...

  6. Re:Say goodbye to fingerprint scanners on laptops by newcastlejon · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Sounds even easier to bypass than cutting off a finger. Perhaps this will usher in a golden age of sperm-jacking and blood-letting?

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  7. Another technology is ahead so far by Michael+G.+Kaplan · · Score: 5, Informative

    The New York Times published an article in August about a technology that decoded a human genome for less than $50,000. The inventor speculates that the technology will be able to decode a genome for just $1,000 in 2-3 years.

    That being said it will be amazing to see the IBM project succeed. Either way the cost of decoding a genome is dropping so quickly it puts Moore's Law to shame.

    1. Re:Another technology is ahead so far by dAzED1 · · Score: 2, Informative

      From the article: Dr. Quake's DNA sequencing machine, about the size of a refrigerator, works by splitting the double helix of DNA into single strands and breaking the strands into small fragments that on average are 32 DNA units in length.

      That's not terribly different than what happens now; we cut things into chunks of X units (say, 400 base pairs), and then use all sorts of tools to guess how to put it all back together. The major problem being something elsewhere mentioned in that article: A computer program then matches the billions of 32-unit fragments to the completed human genomes already on file...

      There are many situations where this is simply not ideal. Not the least of which is when someone wants to sequence a species that has yet to be sequenced. Additionally, you're basing your alignment upon the alignment of the previous set, without actually knowing whether the previous set is properly aligned. More to point, it is well accepted that it is not properly aligned, so you're testing against a known bad. This is (imo) the biggest problem in bioinformatics right now.

      IBM's machine doesn't seem to be taking that same approach, and instead appears to be cutting the DNA in to exponentially larger chunks (from what I've read about it). This isn't something where Moore's Law applies; it's a paradigm shift, not a technology improvement.

  8. Re:Say goodbye to fingerprint scanners on laptops by travisb828 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Perhaps this will usher in a golden age of sperm-jacking and blood-letting?

    Hasn't the Internet already brought a golden age of sperm-jacking?

  9. Re:The implications are huge by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 3, Funny

    dd if=~/OMG_hax/smallpox.img of=/dev/dna0

  10. Re:Cynicism by Laxitive · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you think that fast and cheap DNA reading applies only (or even mostly) to monitoring of individuals, you do not have a real grasp of the scope and applicability of DNA sequencing.

    There are enormous resources in scientific research that goes toward generating datasets. Sequencing of humans is a significant part of it, but most of that applies to medicinal uses, such as cancer genotyping (which uses sequencing to identify specifically the genotypic characteristics of a particular tumor colony so it can be treated much more effectively than just trying to guess by looking at it "from the outside"). Also, a huge new area in medicine is going to be "personalized" medicine. Medicine that's actually tailored to the specific genetic traits that YOU have, so that the chances of side-effects are reduced and effectiveness is increased.

    Then there are the thousands of researchers that need to collect sequence datasets on organisms that have NOTHING to do with humans. A big chunk of this is plant genetics: crop stress tolerance (e.g. make wheat grow more reliably in colder or dryer climates, or resist disease better), natural product optimization (e.g. make canola plants produce 10% more of the kinds of oils you care about, and less of the crap you don't). Another big chunk of this research is basic science: figuring out the specific details of how evolution has progressed, or to identify the core biological processes that make organisms tick. That's core evolutionary biology and biomechanics research.

    Then there's the people trying to do constructive genomics: actually build organisms that do specific things. Like modifying yeast to produce some complex bioproduct that requires a network of potentially hundreds of genes. Or creating organisms that filter waste from water. Or building algae variants that run on sunlight and produce oil.

    All of these things could desperately use robust, cheap, accessible sequencing platforms. Genetic sequencing is not all about your privacy. It's a platform which has the scope to save scientists and researchers millions, and put that towards more research and better results than towards trying to scrape out a few bases from a tissue sample.

    IBM is trying big time to get into the life sciences (that's wrong actually, they actually already HAVE products they market to the life sciences, like systems for large-scale data processing). It is worth billions to them, and they want to tap it.

    -Laxitive

  11. Re:How does the current tech work again? by reverseengineer · · Score: 2, Informative

    There are a few different ways of doing DNA sequencing now, but most automated sequencing uses what's called the dye termination method, which is an advancement on the Sanger (aka dideoxy) method. If the sample needs to be amplified, you can use the polymerase chain reaction, which uses heat to separate strands of DNA, then uses a heat stable DNA polymerase to make copies- a process that can be cycled to exponentially increase the sample. Once again, PCR is only necessary if you need more material to work with.

    The sequencing itself starts by unzipping your DNA sample to a single strand, and then making copies of this strand in an environment where a small fraction of the available deoxynucleotides used for building the copied strands are replaced with labeled dideoxynucleotides, which are added to the growing strand but then terminate further growth. This produces a series of DNA fragments of differing lengths, each with a tag on the last base added. You can use electrophoresis to separate the fragments by size, which creates a map of where your tagged dideoxy bases are located. If you have managed to tag each location at least once, then you know the entire sequence.

    The original Sanger method used radioactive tags, and you had to run the reaction 4 times- with labeled A, T, C, and G separately. Modern automated sequencers usually use four fluorescent tags at different wavelengths, so all four can be run in the same pot.

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  12. Summary is wrong by thewils · · Score: 2, Funny

    the first-ever sequencing done for the Human Genome Project, which cost $3 billion.

    It cost a lot more than that. I mean first we had to evolve from amoeba and create a civilization.

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    1. Re:Summary is wrong by trb · · Score: 3, Insightful
      the first-ever sequencing done for the Human Genome Project, which cost $3 billion.

      And it cost $15 billion for the first person to drive into Boston after the Big Dig. That's creative accounting.

  13. Re:Cynicism by dyingtolive · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I completely agree that the technology can be used for awesome and amazing things. I just have a feeling that most of the things it's going to be used for are things that aren't going to benefit humanity in such lofty ways.

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  14. It's about time. by Animats · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's about time someone did this. People have been talking about real nanotechnology for about two decades. Most of what's now called "nanotechnology" is surface chemistry of finely divided powders, or simple self-assembling structures like carbon nanotubes. Real nanotechnology, useful mechanisms made of deliberately placed individual atoms, hasn't been happening much. A DNA reader is one of the few applications where building a very small number of devices at the atomic scale is useful. You don't need self-replicating assemblers turning out vast numbers of nanomachines. Small numbers of devices can be created, slowly, with STM-type devices.

    At least readers are safe. DNA writers are going to be an issue.

  15. Re:Cynicism by interkin3tic · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I completely agree that the technology can be used for awesome and amazing things. I just have a feeling that most of the things it's going to be used for are things that aren't going to benefit humanity in such lofty ways.

    That second part is true of every single technology ever invented. The first sharpened stick man ever made may have been used to kill food, but the second one was probably used to kill another dude and steal his woman.

    Tor isn't a holy technology that can only be used in good ways either. I'm guessing 5 seconds after it was finished, someone said something like "Think of the children! This will be used to transmit child porn." You probably scoff at that objection and, and rightfully so, but that's exactly our reaction to your objection to the DNA reader.