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Eolas To Sue Apple, Google, and 21 Others

vinodis and several other readers sent along the news that Eolas is suing 23 companies including Apple and Google for patent infringement. The company won $585M from Microsoft in a drawn-out, 9-year battle that the companies settled in 2007; in the course of it the USPTO upheld the "906" patent several times. Now, Eolas is also in possession of a newly-issued patent that they claim covers the use of any browser plugin with AJAX. Let's see how far this lawsuit gets before the Supreme Court plays its wildcard in the Bilski case, which we have been discussing for a while now.

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  1. Re:Can someone please explain? by Man+On+Pink+Corner · · Score: 5, Funny

    It means that, once again, the USPTO's employee drug-testing policy has failed us all.

  2. !eulas by snl2587 · · Score: 4, Funny

    For a second I read that as "EULAs To Sue Apple, Google, and 21 Others"...oh, the irony.

  3. Re:Where's the patent? by rsborg · · Score: 4, Informative

    Can someone link this this "985 patent"? I can't find it linked in any article on this subject. Why do major media never link to anything?

    Uh, looks like they did link it at the end, you just have to RTFA:

    US Patent 7,599,985 for a "Distributed hypermedia method and system for automatically invoking external application providing interaction and display of embedded objects within a hypermedia document"

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  4. Re:Fuck Eolas by MightyMartian · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No, they are the bad guy. The laws suck, and the guys using the laws to hold the software world hostage to moronic demands are bad guys.

    What I'm finally waiting for is the other shoe to drop and guys like Microsoft to finally admit that software patents are just plain bad. The industry is becoming increasingly hostile to new development.

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  5. Re:Fuck Eolas by _Sprocket_ · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Eolas is not the bad guy here, they're just doing what is legally possible. You can't condemn a company for following the law, just because it seems wrong.

    Morality is not defined by law.

  6. Hit Squad by sycodon · · Score: 4, Funny

    For much less than 500 million, you can probably get a very discreet and effective hit squad to take out the entire management of Eolas and the attorneys too.

    They would probably do the attorneys for free.

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    1. Re:Hit Squad by greg1104 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Wiping out a patent troll only after they've extorted money from Microsoft: priceless

    2. Re:Hit Squad by Linker3000 · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'm sorry, but that infringes on my patent #401005666 "A method for eliminating third party organisations or persons engaged in activities likely to affect the capital value of a business"

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  7. Honest question. by Jaysyn · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you are able to sue 23 corporations that are also competitors for infringing on your patent, doesn't that pretty much mean it's an obvious, non-unique patent & should be thrown out?

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  8. Re:Fuck Eolas by knarf · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Eolas is not the bad guy here, they're just doing what is legally possible. You can't condemn a company for following the law, just because it seems wrong.

    Slave owners were not the bad guys, they were just doing what was legally possible...

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  9. I used to work for patent lawyers by Weaselmancer · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yup, it's true. I did IT work for a group of them back when I was in college. I was "team one", and they had some other guys who were "team two". We helped them in shifts.

    One day I got a phone call.

    It was one of the lawyers. He couldn't log on. "The box under my computer is missing."

    Ah, I think. Those wily rascals in Team 2 snagged his UPS or his power strip and didn't replace it. No biggie. I'll buy a power strip and scoot on over.

    I look under his desk.

    His PC is missing.

    The cords to his monitor, mouse, and keyboard were dangling in space and he sat there typing away wondering why he couldn't "log on".

    I apologize for the nightmares, heebie-jeebies, and general loss of sleep you'll have from my story. Yes folks, these are the people in charge of our livelihood.

    We're screwed.

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  10. Re:Fuck Eolas by sofar · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Microsoft did admit it. In an internal memo Bill Gates wrote in 1991:

    "If people had understood how patents would be granted when most of today's ideas were invented and had taken out patents, the industry would be at a complete standstill today."

  11. Re:Where's the patent? by Zocalo · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Is that all? Excellent! In that case I think that I can cite an example of prior art.

    I worked on a system called "MUCH", short for "Many Users Creating Hypermedia", at the University of Liverpool in England back in 1989-1992. Running on UNIX and built in-house by postgraduate students under the guidance of Professor Roy Rada using C and the Andrew Toolkit", the project itself was inspired by Ted Nelson's "Project Xanadu". Mention of the project is also made in Prof. Rada's C.V. at his current employer, The University of Maryland, Baltimore County.

    Fairly obviously, given the name, MUCH allowed multiple users to collaboratively create SGML based hypermedia documents via an integrated version control mechanism similar to that employed by Wikipedia. These documents, while mostly textual (it was the early 1990's!) besides having the ability to contain both graphical and audio content, could also contain any number of embedded external applets written using the Andrew Toolkit. Some of the proof of concept applications developed while I was there (work continued after I left) included animated clocks, calendars, calculators and other widgets, many of which were interactive.

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  12. Re:How about Visual Studio by peragrin · · Score: 4, Interesting

    That's only because MSFT already lost massively. this is one of those things that slashdot was divided over. a court loss for MSFT or feeding yet another patent troll.

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  13. Silver is expensive by TiggertheMad · · Score: 5, Funny

    They would probably do the attorneys for free.

    This is a common misconception. Actually they charge extra, because of all the hawthorn bullets and garlic they have to use.

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  14. Re:And then by tsm_sf · · Score: 4, Funny

    Lay off him, man. Would you make fun of someone with a speech impediment? A typing impediment is much worse.

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  15. Re:Fuck Eolas by element-o.p. · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That is a load of crap.

    If there is a loophole in a law that allows my hypothetical company to dump toxic waste into the municipal water supply -- but it saves my company money -- then I would ABSOLUTELY be to blame for taking a legal action that was clearly harmful to my community. Whether or not the law is broken, I have a moral imperative to act ethically. Certainly there are grey areas, where what you do might not be particularly nice, but isn't actively harmful (for example, your average political ad) but when you begin abusing the law for profit, you've stepped out of the grey and into the black.

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