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Barack Obama Wins the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize

Barack Obama has just been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. The BBC opines: "In awarding President Obama the Nobel Peace Prize, the Norwegian committee is honoring his intentions more than his achievements. After all he has been in office only just over eight months and he will presumably hope to serve eight years, so it is very early in his term to get this award. ... The committee does not make any secret of its approach. It states that he is being given the prize 'for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and co-operation between peoples.' This is of course an implied criticism of former US president George W Bush and the neo-conservatives, who were often accused of trying to change the world in their image." The Washington Post collects more reactions from around the world.

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  1. personally by Jarik+C-Bol · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It seems a bit premature. but hey, whatever they want to do.

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    1. Re:personally by rwv · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I agree. But then again, Al Gore essentially won the Nobel Peace Prize for making a Powerpoint presentation. If the committee is using the prize as a tool to make other world leaders take notice that America has really strong intentions to remove ourselves from all the international conflicts we're engaged in, then power to them.

      Between the troubles faced in the US domestic economy, the conflicts in the Middle East and Asia, health care reform, and setting a good example for his daughters, Obama is a man to be respected for his accomplishments during the past year.

    2. Re:personally by Shakrai · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If the committee is using the prize as a tool to make other world leaders take notice that America has really strong intentions to remove ourselves from all the international conflicts we're engaged in

      Your kidding me, right?

      Obama is a man to be respected for his accomplishments during the past year.

      Which accomplishments would those be? Closing Gitmo? Nope, haven't done that yet. Health Care Reform? Nope, haven't done that yet, and it's not really "reform" anyway. Creating a transparent White House? Nope, we gave up on that one pretty early on.

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    3. Re:personally by nutshell42 · · Score: 5, Insightful
      I hope he bombs Iran and North Korea before invading Pakistan together with India.

      Perhaps then the retards at the Nobel Peace Prize committee will stop handing out that thing like it's the Politically Correct Popularity Contest. Thousands of people work their asses off and often risk their lives trying to stop all the conflicts around the world and Obama gets it for...what, exactly?

      "Efforts to strengthen international diplomacy?" In other words for holding a bunch of grandstanding speeches. It's not like his approach to international relations is that different to Clinton or many presidents before him, even Bush's later years were pretty mellow.

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    4. Re:personally by bigstrat2003 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yeah, I always thought that it was traditional to have to accomplish some significant shit to win a Nobel Prize. Apparently not, though. All Obama has really done that tons of common citizens haven't is be elected president (which, yes, is an accomplishment, but not a Nobel-worthy accomplishment). Where the hell are the Nobel Prizes coming our way?

      This degrades the award so much it's laughable.

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    5. Re:personally by Shakrai · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Fair enough. So what are his accomplishments on the international scene? He's given a few good speeches. Other than that, exactly what has he accomplished?

      This award reeks of political calculation. He was in office for less than two weeks and got nominated? WTF? You can't even really say that they gave it to him because of his grand speeches before the World stage -- because I don't think he had given any of them yet.

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    6. Re:personally by Martin+Blank · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The pace of missile strikes by US drones against Taleban targets in Afghanistan has picked up since January. There's a good chance that 40,000 to 60,000 more US troops will be deployed to Afghanistan. The military option against Iran's nuclear program is still not off the table. What exactly has been more peaceful? US troop withdrawal from cities in Iraq? That was negotiated under Bush, and would have been carried out whether it was Obama or McCain in the White House.

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    7. Re:personally by nahdude812 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yeah, when terrorists kill innocent people for over 3 decades and we finally get someone willing to do something to try and stop it, that's pretty evil. I'll never understand why idiots like you support terrorism so hard core and why you believe it's better to allow terrorism to continue unchecked than to make the hard decisions and try and stop it.

      The appropriate response to terrorism isn't terrorism. You present a false dichotomy: it is indeed possible to be against war (especially unjustified as in the past decade) without being for "terrorism," the generic catch-all enemy du jour. In the past it was the Russians or the Communists, or something else. Always a nameless shapeless threat which is used as excuse for committing unspeakable acts. This is exactly how it works on the other side of the fence too, this is exactly the same sort of failure to reason which leads to actual terrorism.

      Invoking terrorism as an excuse for absolutely any deplorable behavior furthers the problem rather than culling it.

    8. Re:personally by commodore64_love · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Public broadcaster NRK reported that US President Barack Obama and French President Nicolas Sarkozy were among the nominees.

      Well now I see the CALIBER of the people who win these prizes. French President Sarkozy. Wow. Actually Sarkozy probably would have been a better pick, since he mediated a peace settlement between Georgia and Russia last year. Obama... he uh... um... well he... gave good speak?

      There were 203 other people up for the prize. Surely one of them would have been a better pick - like French-Colombian hostage Ingrid Betancourt and Chinese dissident Hu Jia. Or maybe the Cluster Munitions Coalition for getting nearly 100 countries to sign a treaty last year in Oslo banning cluster bombs.

      Last year's winner was former Finnish president and career diplomat Martti Ahtisaari for his efforts on several continents, over more than three decades, to resolve international conflicts. This year's winner... um... uh... not really sure.

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    9. Re:personally by Shakrai · · Score: 5, Insightful

      No one has flown planes into any buildings in Europe that I know of.

      Yeah, Europe has never suffered an incident of terrorism. It just doesn't happen. Everybody loves them.

      I can't believe you got a +5 for this nonsense.

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  2. For being the opposite of Bush by mozumder · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This win was more a rebuke to the conservatives than anything else.

  3. Lowering of standards? by stevev007 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I remember when the Nobel Prize used to mean something, when people won it many years after tremendous accomplishments. It was so exclusive that the best of the best never knew if they would ever receive it. Now it seems you get it for not being like the guy before you.

    1. Re:Lowering of standards? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If Yasser Arafat won a nobel prize then anyone can.

  4. I think he may possibly deserver the prize by Chrisq · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think he may possibly deserver the prize, but its too early to say. Shouldn't they have waited to see if he manages to sort out Iraq, bring peace to the Middle East or something like that? After all if he does manage it now there will be nothing to reward him with.

    1. Re:I think he may possibly deserver the prize by NoYob · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I agree that it may be too soon. But he has made some good changes so far. He's introduced a radical shift in US policy, going from a big stick diplomacy to one based on respect (even if the opposing country does not deserve it). I don't like how he's handled everything, but as far as his international relations policy goes, I'm rather happy.

      But to get the Peace Prize for it?

      Do you honestly think what he's done is on the level with Martin Luther King? Or Mother Theresa? Or Linus Pauling?

      Please, this prize is getting cheaper by the year.

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    2. Re:I think he may possibly deserver the prize by bheer · · Score: 5, Insightful

      > he's only 8 months into his first term.

      It's worse than that. The deadline to be nominated is Feb 1. Even assuming he was nominated right near the deadline, he had been in office barely _10 days_ when someone, impressed with all that he has accomplished, nominated him for this award. Jeez. Obviously, someone clearly thought the election of an Democrat/African-American with good oratorial skills was a major contribution to world peace in and of itself.

      This is exactly the kind of condescension I as a person of color can live without.

  5. Joke by hansamurai · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Winning the peace prize by sending 21,000 more troops to Afghanistan while mulling even more? What a load.

  6. A little Chinese wisdom by Vinegar+Joe · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "When small men begin to cast big shadows, it means that the sun is about to set." - Lin Yutang

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  7. A Bold Move by FlyingBishop · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "This is the first time the award is given for wishful thinking," -Danny Danon, Israeli politician.

    This is, I think, a general reaction from a lot of people, but it doesn't really line up with the history of the prize. In 1987, for example the prize was awarded to Óscar Arias, a Costa Rican president, for making some strong gestures that he would stop the Nicaraguan war that had been raging for a decade, fueled by the United States. This raised Arias' profile, and gave him the political capital to broker a peace deal in 1988.

    In a lot of ways, I think that this is a better use of the prize; not to recognize achievements after the fact, but to encourage and foster new achievements that might not have happened without the award. Whether this will affect Obama's actions, who can say, but he'll certainly feel a little awkward now if he doesn't get anything done soon.

  8. Missed opportunity by McDutchie · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Barack Obama missed a golden opportunity to posit himself as a great man. He could have refused the prize, citing the obvious fact that he has not achieved anything of substance yet. That would have gained him instant worldwide respect, while exposing the Nobel institution as the farce that it has become. But now, Obama is looking like yet another politician joining yet another little prestige club of politicians.

    1. Re:Missed opportunity by xednieht · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Very true, a noble man makes noble plans, and by noble deeds he stands.

      Dear Mr. President, if you don't give it back at least find some balls and earn it. We have two war criminals that sacrificed the lives of over 4,000 troops on the Altar Of Lies. If America is to lead the world we must do so on a foundation of honor and justice. Restore America's honor.

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  9. Re:proletariat by epiphani · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Don't jump the gun... with insane health reforms he might incite the US to civil war. I know I'm more annoyed at him than at W.

    Meanwhile the rest of the world is looking at this and wondering what the hell your country is thinking.

    I don't think he deserves the award this early, but being honest, he is presenting a far better image to the rest of the world than has been done in the past decade. Some of his speeches in the middle east reflect a balanced and measured approach without historical alliances clouding the issues.

    And civil war over health care? Are you honestly that insane?

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  10. Re:proletariat by nutshell42 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Yeah, with private insurance for all we've done the first step that leads to being a socialist hellhole like the Soviet Union, or Germany. If this goes on there will be a public option, the US is gonna end up like Cuba, or the UK.

    France, Canada, Japan, all engulfed in civil strife, with the walking dead, condemned by bureaucratic Death Panels, roaming the streets and hordes of atheists burning churches.

    Thankfully the insurance industry is ready to pay billions to upstanding Congressmen and selfless community organizers so they can spread the truth.

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  11. Re:proletariat by ZekoMal · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You should be a tad more disgusted that the glorified wasting of money to kill people across the world is considered "less annoying" than having the possibility of a slightly higher bill, or slightly higher taxes, or maybe, just maybe, it being a better choice.

    Just remember, you said it. You prefer throwing billions at killing people than throwing billions at giving everyone health care.

  12. The road to hell is paved with what now? by Follier · · Score: 5, Insightful


    I'll have to start a blog outlining all the things I want to do, like solving hunger, cleaning up all the pollution from the ocean, and bringing peace and love to all mankind.

    If I get enough subscribers that I become famous, I can get the Nobel Peace Prize too! And I don't even have to leave my desk.

  13. Re:Norwegian sell-out for celebrities and stars by gnud · · Score: 5, Insightful
    This award is a mistake, no matter what you think of Obama.

    The wiki's translation of Nobel's will (and it looks good, after a cursory glance at the original swedish) reads:

    [...] to the person who shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses.

    Note the past tense.
    President Obama has done nothing at all to reduce standing armies, and his work towards a fraternity between nations is in its infancy.

  14. Nothing new. by jcr · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The "peace" prize jumped the shark a long time ago. Wilson, Roosevelt, Kissinger, Arafat? Obama should decline the prize as an insult.

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  15. Re:proletariat by Shakrai · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You need it to live, therefore providers can charge pretty much whatever they'd like.

    No, providers can charge whatever they'd like because you have no idea what the service actually costs and people have no incentive to argue with them over the price because they aren't paying it to begin with. Do you really think hospitals would get away with charging $40 for dressings (the line item from my recent visit to the ER) if people actually saw that bill and had to pay it?

    If you believe the free market has any role in the health care system, you might want to learn something about how it works.

    I know plenty about how the health care system works and it isn't anything remotely close to a free market. Go read this article in The Atlantic and educate yourself. I think you'll find it informative.

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  16. Re:Heh... by Enderandrew · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The problem with any discussion of Democrat and Republican platforms is that neither party even remotely espouses the supposed platforms they stand for.

    You have supposed liberals championing for government control, censorship, and the removal of rights. (Clinton, Biden, Reid)

    You have supposed fiscal conservatives handing out bushels of money left and right. (McCain and Bush)

    Both parties voted for war. Both parties voted for massive bailouts. Both parties keep putting money in their pocket. Both parties voted for domestic spy programs. Both parties keep creating new federal bureaucracy without doing anything to really make our lives better.

    At the end of the day, we need a certain dose of the Libertarians, who want less government and more personal freedom, except they're naive in thinking if we ignore the rest of the world, they'll ignore us.

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