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FOSS Sexism Claims Met With Ire and Denial

Last Friday Bryce Byfield gave us a little insight into the fallout surrounding his article on sexism in the FOSS world. Unfortunately it seems that FOSS junkies did little better than the rest of the world with respect to sexism, displaying similar levels of denial, abuse, and ignorance. "But the real flood of emotion comes from the anti-feminists and the average men who would like to deny the importance of feminist issues in FOSS. Raise the subject of sexism, and you are met with illogic that I can only compare to that of the tobacco companies trying to deny the link between their products and cancer. Because I took a feminist stance in public, I have been abused in every way possible — being called irrelevant, a saboteur, coward, homosexual, and even a betrayer of the community. I know that many women in the community have been attacked much more savagely than I have, so I'm not complaining. Nor am I a stranger to readers who disagree with me, but the depth of reaction has taken me back more than once. I think the reaction is an expression of denial more than anything else."

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  1. I predict.... by tilandal · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    that this 'discussion' will pretty much be the embodiment of the point Bryce was trying to make in his article. I look forward to reading page after page of how women are too sensitive, or aren't dedicated enough, or can't perform to the level of men, or can't respond to criticism, or should just hide the fact that they are women.

  2. And you fail. by khasim · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Lets' repeat ObsessiveMathsFreak answer again. If I don't shoot you a thousand times, and then shoot you, there is no problem?

    Nice of you to try to engage in a discussion that you are not mentally prepared for.

    In the future, I recommend that you try to understand the topic under discussion prior to deciding to voice your opinion.

  3. Re:Well if that's true... by Demonspawn · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    What a lot of people in the whole "it's sexism" camp forget is that there are only two types of people:

    Those who are sexist
    Those who are idiots.

    See, the whole problem with "reducing sexism" means that you have to be an idiot. There is no definition of sexism that allows for someone to be a non-idiot and not be sexist at the same time.

    See, to be non-sexist we have to do one of two things:
    1. Ignore that there are difference between men and women:
    Wow, I guess men do get pregnant!!

    2. We can recognize that there are differences, but we must willfully ignore them.
    Well if I want kids I'll have just as much luck sleeping with Tom as I would with Betty.

    These two are "no-duh" examples, but that's the point. Either you are sexist, or you are an idiot.

    Really, I mean, comon! The whole "sexism" debate is all about saying men and women are interchangeable, which is patently false. Men and women are different, **ON A BIOLOGICAL LEVEL**, and the sooner Feminists realize this then they can stop trying to solve a "problem" which can't be solved.