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Experimenting On Mechanical Turk

itwbennett writes "In a recent article, Dr. Markus Jakobsson, a Principal Scientist at PARC, offers some tips on effectively running human-subject research studies on Amazon's Mechanical Turk. '...[B]enefits [include] very low experiment costs, quick turn-around rates, and relatively simple approvals from human subjects boards. But you have to be careful to avoid bias and error.' says Dr. Jakobsson. For example, in many situations subjects may be biased just from knowing that they are participating in a study, or by knowing the goals of a study. To avoid this bias, you need to 'convey a different task to your subject than what you are observing — essentially deceive them — to see how they react when faced with the situation of interest. Consider a study of user reactions to phishing sites. You may, for example, say that you are studying the common reaction to online e-commerce sites, and ask them to rate how helpful various sites are, with a free-text input field where they can add other observations. You first show them three or four legitimate websites, asking them to rate and describe them; then you show them a phishing site and do the same. Will they tell you that this is a site run by fraudsters? If they do, they noticed signs of fraud without you prompting them.'" The author also gives tips on avoiding cheaters, and determining how much to pay and when.

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  1. I'm still waiting... by mirix · · Score: 3, Funny

    For mechanical turkish delight.

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  2. Man... by ZekoMal · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The title makes it sounds so exciting, like we're experimenting with our robotic Turks.

    But the statistician within me is also fascinated with this. It always made me wonder, as the human mind can precondition itself. The study about whether or not prayer helps the sickly followed this mindset, and since the sick humans had no idea what the study was about, when they were told that people were praying for them they thought they were much sicker and actually recovered more slowly. If they hadn't told the sick humans, however, would there have been a large difference?

    Math and the brain, it's amazing how they meet.

    1. Re:Man... by Idiomatick · · Score: 4, Funny

      "likely to be fucking Christians"

      They better be married then!

    2. Re:Man... by Arthur+Grumbine · · Score: 3, Funny

      Math and the brain, it's amazing how they meet.

      (Brain is walking past dark alley)
      Math: Pssst!! Hey, you!
      Brain: Huh? Wh-- me?
      Math: Yeah - you! You wanna try some good shit? I got some seriously advanced Number Theory, here. You totally have to try this shit!
      Brain: Nah, thanks anyway, man, but I'm not into that hard shit.
      Math: You sure?! This shit's fucking amazing, man. Real pure, man, grade A. Some of this shit will blow your fucking mind!
      Brain: Nah it's cool, thank--
      Math: That's cool, that's cool, man. It's not for everybody...how 'bout some primo Euclidean Geometry? You ain't never calculated the sum of the squares of the sides of a right triangle until you've demonstrated the Pythagorean Theorem. This shit's a trip!
      Brain: Hey, yeah, I'd be down for some of that...
      Math: Excellent! Now don't worry about nothin' - the first book is on me... friend. (puts his arm around Brain)
      Brain: Hey, man, you're all right, y'know...

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    3. Re:Man... by tibman · · Score: 2, Funny

      When I was a stupid kid I worked at McDonalds : /

      But i did walk two miles there and back everyday after school! Bought a huge trampoline with the first paycheck :) Then later a rusted pile of metal i mistook for a car... oh the memories.

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  3. Well now the cat is out of the bag... by Aldenissin · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I often see websites where I feel there is a hidden agenda other than to make me happy enjoying the content to make the website owners some money. But people get savvy over time.. and it will start to get obvious. One thing is for sure.. you can only do this at most a few times before individuals start to figure it out, or you have get a new pool every time. Unless, you are looking for possible even more real world scenarios where there are a lot of websites that are frauds...

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    1. Re:Well now the cat is out of the bag... by PopeRatzo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      you can only do this at most a few times before individuals start to figure it out

      No, with most people you can do it over, and over, and over.

      It's why Fox News makes money.

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  4. Huge Problem with this study by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If I was in a study gauging the helpfulness of various websites and one I was shown a fake website, I would simply assume they ran out of, or could not have access too the real site and so were using a mockup.

    If the mockup was particularly bad I might tell them, but otherwise I'd probably chuckle to myself and then just rate it as usual.

    There is a huge margin of error with this type of thinking.

  5. you may want to scrub. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    i make my mechanical Turk have sex with my mechanical JD.

  6. Great Article, however... by smitty777 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Great article, however you should realize it's impossible to completely avoid bias. For example, he has restricted his population to MTurk users while generalizing to the population of web users. He also "weeded out" the lazy people for the convenience of his experiment - aren't there lazy people in the real world?

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    1. Re:Great Article, however... by radtea · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Great article, however you should realize it's impossible to completely avoid bias.

      It's also impossible to completely avoid banal truisms masquerading as insight, but that doesn't stop us from trying.

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  7. Better idea: take a research methods class by pridkett · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The subject basically says it all. If you're conducting a study, either for academia or industry, do yourself a favor and take a good research methods class. I can't count then number of promising studies I've rejected for publication because their methods were poor. While Dr. Jacobson makes some good points, most of them are pretty obvious to anyone who has taken a good class on creating experiments with humans -- for example, deception is a cornerstone of many human studies. Also, for you budding young scientists, make sure you get IRB approval before conducting your study. I reviewed a paper where the authors were clearly from a University and I had questions about the ethics of their methods so I asked for the IRB data for the study...whoops, they never got it. The paper was withdrawn by the authors shortly after.

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    1. Re:Better idea: take a research methods class by mikael · · Score: 2, Informative

      I've done 'turking' a few times - mainly transcription work and some paragraph writing. For an individual, whether a task is worth doing really depends on how quickly they can do it. The going rate would be around $20/hour.

      Simple quick repetitive tasks pay the least, while long creative tasks pay the most.
      Quick tasks might just pay 10 cents and require the 'turker' to look at an image of a road from a car and click yes/no buttons to say whether there are road markings or traffic lights. Some people are good at doing this kind of repetitive work, so they can keep going for hours and hours.

      Creative work usually consists of paragraph writing, and would involve writing 500 words or so for $10, with a particular set of words repeated a specified number of times. A person with English as a first language could do that within 30 minutes, so that's a quick little earner.

      There are legends about how the first Amazon Tasks were recognizing music artists and songs from a 10 second snippet of audio. For each task, turkers were being paid 50 cents. People were quick to realize that a single four minute track was being automatically chopped up into 20+ such snippets, so if they got one snippet right, the odds are they could get the next 20 or so tasks done as well. Another nice little earner for $10 every 30 minutes.

      Transcription work involves listening to a multi-minute segment of audio and converting it into written text. Tricky work as you have to write down the time, who is speaking and what they said, taking into account regional accents. Alternatively, you could work as an editor and edit together 20 or so transcriptions to form a single consistent transcript that covered an hour or so. Just 3 minutes work would take half an hour, but with bonuses that would make $10 for 30 minutes work.

      A search for Steve Fossett was performed using Amazon turk. They took satellite photos of the desert, diced them up and had people look at each square. Many other wrecks were found, but not Steve, as the crash site was actually up at 10,000 feet in the mountains.

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  8. Old concept, applied to the web. by Aladrin · · Score: 4, Interesting

    When I was a kid, my parents received a free episode of some potential new comedy show to evaluate for them. We watched it, commercials and all. (Yeah, the commercials were a surprise.) At the end, unsurprisingly, the questions were actually about the commercials and only the last was about the show. It didn't fool us at all, of course.

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  9. Why is this news? by AtomicDevice · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This is like psych 101, don't tell subjects what they are doing, or they'll just game you and your results will suck. Add internet. Same concept

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  10. Re:What the hell is mechanical turk? by pamar · · Score: 2, Informative

    ...

    Although I'm still not sure what is mechanical or turkish about it. The Amazon part apparently refers to the fact that payment is made in way of credits to Amazon.com.

    Amazon got the name from this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Turk

  11. What's a Mechanical Turk? by Tetsujin · · Score: 2, Funny

    Is it something like an Electric Monk?

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