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VASIMR Ion Engine Could Cut Mars Trip To 39 Days

An anonymous reader writes "It would take about 39 days to reach Mars, compared to six months by conventional rocket power. 'This engine is in fact going to be tested on the International Space Station, launched about 2013,' astronaut Chris Hadfield said. The Variable Specific Impulse Magnetoplasma Rocket (VASIMR®) system encompasses three linked magnetic cells. The 'Plasma Source' cell involves the main injection of neutral gas (typically hydrogen, or other light gases) to be turned into plasma and the ionization subsystem. The 'RF Booster' cell acts as an amplifier to further energize the plasma to the desired temperature using electromagnetic waves. The 'Magnetic Nozzle' cell converts the energy of the plasma into directed motion and ultimately useful thrust."

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  1. Billions and billions... by GenP · · Score: 5, Funny

    A few hundred Newtons here, a few hundred Newtons there, and pretty soon you're talking about some real delta-v!

  2. Re:Tag as SLASHVERTISEMENT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yeah, I was totally going to go for one of those conventional rockets for my trip to Mars, but now I'm seriously considering a VASIMR Ion Engine.

  3. Re:Tag as SLASHVERTISEMENT by dkleinsc · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Yeah, coverage like this really makes we want to go out and buy one for my own space ship.

    Seriously, I think this might be getting coverage because this is potentially technology that could make a manned mission to MARS much more feasible and safer. Of course, getting back might still be challenging, but I for one would take the honor of being the first man on Mars away from Philip Fry if I could.

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  4. Please, please, PLEASE... by Kirin+Fenrir · · Score: 5, Funny

    Let the common name be "impulse engines".

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  5. Needs serious power input for fast travel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Mind you to obtain this 39 day route, you're not going to be doing it by feeding the VASIMR's klystrons off solar cells stuck to the outside of the ship. That's more of a one year sort of trip.

    If you want the 39 days, you're going to need to pump the voltage in with a classic onboard nuclear reactor. Not to worry though, both the US and Russians made and tested (The Russians flew) several dozen types of space borne fission reactors in the 60s-80s so this is no great leap. Other than perhaps getting the eco-hippies to shut up about lofting lots of highly enriched nuclear fuel.

  6. Re:"A new NASA rocket engine" by sh00z · · Score: 5, Informative

    Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but ain't VASIMIR developed private company, not by NASA? Sure, NASA is working together with Ad Astra Rocket Company, but does NASA really deserve all the fame?

    This started as a NASA project, at the Advanced Space Propulsion Laboratory at the Johnson Space Center.

    Dr Franklin R. Chang Diaz (the other former astronaut involved, and not mantioned in this Canada-centric article) took the project to private industry in 2005

  7. Re:Tag as SLASHVERTISEMENT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    For 10 years now, I'm commuting to work with my old Ford Pinto.
    Until I read the ad in the news paper and decided it was time for a change.
    Now I'm owning on of the modern cars with a VASIMR Ion Engine and have cut my commuting time down by 105 percent. And with the money saved I'm buying a new house, yacht, motorbike and wife.
    And when my boss saw my new VASIMR ion engine has gave me a raise and promoted me !

    Thanks VASIMR ion engine cooperation, your incredible product saved the day and changed my life for the better !

  8. 4 out of 5 astronauts surveyed by bl8n8r · · Score: 5, Funny

    preferred 39 days of abstinence to 6 months!

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  9. Re:No quite yet. by TheRaven64 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    VASIMR doesn't need the heavy fuel, as it is solar powered, so it provides constant thrust

    Ummm, no. Or, rather, technically yes, but not really. In a chemical rocket, fuel and reaction mass are the same thing. The fuel burns, expands, and flies out of the back. With an ion engine, they are separate. The fuel is anything that can produce electricity (e.g. solar or nuclear plants) and the reaction mass is something that you've ionised. This still has mass, and still has to be carried with you until you throw it out of the back, irrespective of where the power comes from.

    The important thing to remember is that all of these are reaction drives. They work according to the principle of conservation of momentum. When you throw some mass out of the back of your space ship, the space ship gains the same amount of momentum as the thing you throw out of the back. You can double the momentum that you gain from your engine by either doubling the speed of the ejected reaction mass, or by doubling the amount you throw out. With conventional rockets, the speed is limited by the rate of reaction, which is fairly fixed. With an ion drive, the speed is limited by the amount of power you put in.

    You still need to carry the propellant, but if you can throw it out at ten times the speed then you need a tenth of the amount. If you need a tenth of the amount, then your space ship will mass a little over a tenth as much, and so the speed that it gains from this change in momentum will be almost ten times as much.

    In theory, you could use a small glass of water, accelerated to a significant fraction of the speed of light, as your propellant for an entire trip to Mars and back. In practice, there is a limit to the speed to which an ion thruster can accelerate the ions it's throwing out and so you still need quite a large amount of propellant.

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  10. Re:No quite yet. by Interoperable · · Score: 5, Informative
    then you could just use it as a conventional nuclear rocket (i.e. superheated steam).

    The VASMIR can accelerate a neutral gas to much, much higher velocities than a steam driven rocket would. This means significantly more impulse per unit mass so the fuel weight would be dramatically reduced. Sure the reactor is heavy but it still packs a much higher power density than combustibles so all in all a VASMIR can pull off an excellent power to weight ratio for an extended acceleration.

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  11. Re:Tag as SLASHVERTISEMENT by Creepy · · Score: 5, Informative

    Actually, I've found the latest VASIMR progress quite interesting, but that article seemed more intent on promoting Canada than feeding news. Heck, the ISS mission has been known since 2007.

    A google search was also able to come up with an article with a lot more meat. This explains that the project is working towards 200MW ion rockets (MUCH more powerful than the earlier .3kW), would be powered by a cheap nuke drive instead of solar panels, and they believe it's doable by 2020. Similar info is in PopSci this month.

    Now if they could just get that dense plasma fusion device (see Slashdot yesterday) to power the craft instead of fission, that would be cool... yeah, I know I'm pipe dreaming again, but I can't help it.