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Car Glass Rules Could Impair Cell, GPS and Radio Signals In CA

An anonymous reader writes "The California Air Resources Board (CARB) just passed a new regulation that requires glazed glass in automobiles that is supposed to reduce the need to use air conditioning. The catch is that the same properties that block electromagnetic sunlight radiation also block lower frequency electromagnetic radio waves. That means radios, satellite radios, GPS, garage door openers, and cell phones will be severely degraded. Even more surprising is that it requires this glass even for jeeps that have soft covers, plastic windows, and no air conditioning.'"

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  1. Did they specify WHERE the glass has to be? by Spectre · · Score: 5, Funny

    I know when they passed legislation requiring motorcycle helmets to be worn, they didn't specify "where", so people were strapping one to their knee or hanging it from an elbow.

    Perhaps you can do the same thing, and sell glazed drinking glasses, stick one in your cup-holder, you're golden?

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  2. If it keeps people from yapping on their cellphone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I say it's a win-win situation.

  3. Hmm I wonder ... by OzPeter · · Score: 5, Funny
    I think that I smell a market for some bendy bit of wire that sits on the outside of the car and funnels the radio waves to the inside compartment . I might call it ...

    [places pinky finger to mouth]

    An .. Aerial !!!!

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    1. Re:Hmm I wonder ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      I think that I smell a market for some bendy bit of wire that sits on the outside of the car and funnels the radio waves to the inside compartment . I might call it ...

      [places pinky finger to mouth]

      An .. Aerial !!!!

      I thought that was banned because of the wind resistance, and hence more fuel consumption it caused.

  4. I've developed a new type of air conditioning by Tobor+the+Eighth+Man · · Score: 3, Funny

    I've spent the past several years designing and prototyping a new type of eco-friendly air conditioning for automobiles that solves both these problems. By using the intrinsic velocity of an automobile and cutting-edge gas dynamics, I've discovered that the inside of a car can be cooled merely by adding an additional aperture to the side of the vehicle. This aperture can even be temporary, thanks to an innovative sliding glass mechanism that preserves visibility and allows a variety of different settings to suit the user's preference. A slight decrease in aerodynamics and therefore fuel efficiency, as well as a tendency for papers to blow around in the back seat, is the only downside.

    1. Re:I've developed a new type of air conditioning by Kamokazi · · Score: 2, Funny

      Wow, that sure beats my 'Ventilation Hammer' idea!

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  5. Ahh, that explains that ... by A+nonymous+Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I wondered why General Motors dropped the Oldsmobile brand.

    1. Re:Ahh, that explains that ... by 3dr · · Score: 3, Funny

      That's a good example of tight coupling. Clearly, the antenna and windshield should have been communicating over a well thought out interface. Instead, the implementation of one was entirely dependent on, nay, entrenched in, the implementation details of the other.

    2. Re:Ahh, that explains that ... by QuoteMstr · · Score: 4, Funny

      If cars were computers:

      • Big ball of mud: the radio is embedded into the car's unibody shell. You can't remove it without totaling the car. It works when it's not raining.
      • Functional: a standard six-foot antenna is bolted to the roof of every car. It may be over-sized and look ridiculous, but it gets the job done.
      • Object oriented: the radio receiver is in a trailer, which is welded shut. It connects to your stereo over a well-documented interface, but nobody knows how the receiver works. Everyone who has tried to find out has been electrocuted.
      • Generic programming : The car comes with two dozen different antennas, each optimized to receive a particular frequency. They're arranged in a barrel in the trunk, and changing the radio station changes which antenna sticks out of the car. The reception is great.
      • Aspect-oriented: the radio is controlled by an electrode attached to your brain that tries to detect when you want to change the station. It separates the concerns of frequency selections and desired music very nicely.
  6. Re:! surprising by Penguinisto · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...my Jeep has air conditioning: the TD2-50 A/C system

    (using it is pretty easy, too: take off the top and both doors, then go 50mph).

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  7. Re:You mean ... by Culture20 · · Score: 2, Funny

    ... people will have problems using cell phones while driving?

    When Arnold says he'll "take swift action" he MEANS IT!

  8. Re:I guess this article had its intended effect... by pi_rules · · Score: 3, Funny

    Not sure this really effects Detroit all that much. I think they only sold 6 cars last year.

    Now the "foreign" manufacturers that set up shop south of Michigan? They might actually care.

  9. BTW by kenp2002 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Did you know that some of that old glazing material was Abseto in old homes... I wonder what crap they want put on our windows now; that in 30 years we'll find out causes cancer, autism, allergies, Liberal Rage Disorder, NIMBY Rightwing Syndrome, a taste for Bud Light, and a yearing for Married With Children reruns...

    I am a firm beliver in colored glass+copper foil+lead with two sheets of clear wire reinforced safety glass on the outside.

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  10. In California? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Whoa, wait a minute... short-sighted, ineffectual, over-reaching, burdensome laws... IN CALIFORNIA? As a California native, I am shocked, SHOCKED!

  11. Re:This was known as ... by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 2, Funny

    Hopefully, this implementation of it won't peel or bubble.

  12. Re:You mean ... by jbeaupre · · Score: 4, Funny

    Not a problem. The glass will be scattered in you lap, permitting excellent reception again.

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  13. Re:You mean ... by smooth+wombat · · Score: 5, Funny

    OR they'll roll down the window to make the call, heating up the car in the process, then run the AC on full blast to level it out afterwards.

    Then turn on the blender to make margaritas because they're still hot and now thirsty.

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  14. Re:Welcome to California... by Toonol · · Score: 2, Funny

    It is absurd. We also voted to require that chickens have enough room to walk around when they're being raised to be killed and eaten, but we voted against allowing same sex marriage. We care more about animals than gay people, strangely enough.

    That doesn't really logically follow. I'm sure most Californians wouldn't vote to confine gays to a lifetime in a small cage, and wouldn't vote to allow chickens to marry.

  15. Re:You mean ... by gnick · · Score: 2, Funny

    I drive wearing night-vision goggles, you insensitive clod!

    Now... The goggles... They will do nothing.

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  16. Re:! surprising by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    You mean those people who made stupid choices like having teenage sex and getting pregnant or not graduating high school and those people who live way above their means and spend far more than they should can't buy shares? Oh how sad. We should create a welfare program that rewards stupidity and laziness. Oh wait....

  17. Re:Welcome to California... by Overzeetop · · Score: 2, Funny

    My first though was from Men in Black:

    Edwards: Why the big secret? People are smart. They can handle it.
    Kay: A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it.

    When actually confronted with the condition that the government must tax to raise money to spend for programs, and every dollar out means a dollar in, just like your family budget. It takes some reasoning because nobody thinks of it that way (I don't know why, really). But let them vote on things and they'll spend far more money than they'll ever pay in taxes, and they'll still rail against taking any more money from them.

    I say we start charging people for school, and let the market sort it out. You'd be amazed how many people couldn't afford to send their kids to school, even if you set their taxes at zero.

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