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Yahoo Offered Lap Dances At Hack Event
Fotograf writes "Yahoo's latest embarrassment seems like a sign that the company is just trying too hard to be cool. The latest debacle is earning the company some additional publicity. After Yahoo hosted Taiwan Open Hack Day, a special event for engineers and developers that was held last weekend, a series of photos found their way onto the internet — as ill-thought out decisions often do. Yahoo offered lap dances to the attendees of the hack event. Since the pictures have come out the company has decided to apologize."
Why?
Who the hell would want a lap dance on a stage in front of tons of people. That would be awkward and unpleasant even if you liked lap dances from strangers (rubbing their diseases all over you, heh).
The ratio of people to cake is too big
Underclass? Pfff.... Most of them probably earn more than I do.
... There it is considered positively old fashioned and prudish to stop with just lap dances. The competition is sure to be offering a lot more.
sed -e 's/Chuck Norris/Rajnikant/g' joke > fact
Per the article, which I know no one reads, the guy that made the remarks has a blog at http://simonwillison.net/
He may not have been there, but his point is that for an industry that's always trying to attract women, this is the wrong thing to do. Not to mention that even if it is culturally accepted in Taiwan, some developers may be morally opposed to this.
So we shouldn't be surprised when women don't want to enter the IT and Computer Science fields because they see it as a male dominated field. Images like these reinforce that perception. If you want more women in the field, do things that attract them. Don't trot out booth babes like it's an anime/gaming convention or a car show.
Why should they have minded? Because, in your opinion, sexuality is to there to be enjoyed not sold? Why should their sense of shame or morality have any relation to your opinion? What makes you so special?
I'm not a big fan of strip clubs, and I personally find the whole concept of selling sex as off-putting, but I'm not going to go around saying people who do it should feel ashamed of themselves. You assume they are relaxing their own principles or boundaries in exchange for money, when in fact in many cases their principles and boundaries are simply more permissive than yours. I accept that some people have more liberal boundaries than my own. However, when they're doing things that, ultimately, don't hurt anyone, I can't justify getting offended by it, and I certainly can't justify trying to get anyone to feel bad about it.
It's disrespectful to men.
I don't want a stripper begging me for money. I don't want my peers expecting me to treat her like a stripper. I'll proudly call myself a wimp, girly, sensitive or whatever and if you have a problem with that, you really have to reconsider your image of what it is to be a man. Gay men are men. Men loyal to their girlfriends and wives are men. Men who don't take strange women's clothes off are men. We don't all have to fit into the model that television and movies make us fit into.
I've been put in this situation before and there was nothing I could do except play the game and shove money down her pants. The stripper knows it and she exploits it. Next time I encounter an event like that, I'm telling my coworkers to have fun, I'll walk straight out and tell the organizer to fuck off.
If I were Yahoo's management, I'd reassign or fire whomever was responsible for it. They shouldn't be calling shots for events.
right...because people are forced to get lap dances. if you didn't want one and didn't have the balls to say so, then that is your problem. yahoo provided a perfectly legal perk to their guests if they wanted it--that is not something to be fired over.
it is not disrespectful to men or women as long as both know what is going on and are there voluntarily. if you don't want to participate, don't. grow the fuck up.
I've never understood this. You do realize, don't you, that without feminism, you wouldn't be a female programmer today? You'd either be a housewife, or a secretary looking for a husband so you can become a housewife.
Understanding your history doesn't imply you have to agree with the same course for the future. Being appreciative of her position now doesn't obligate her to agree with the rest of the political mumbo-jumbo of zealots that say all women should work and women who don't are somehow less of a woman because of it.**
**I'm aware not all feminists are zealots.
"Growing old is inevitable; growing up is optional."
PR handbook if it was done in the US maybe.
In most of Europe, no one would care.
In Tiawan, no one cares the slightest.
You are applying your culture to a country and people thousands of miles away from you that subscribe to a completely different culture.
The only reason you know about it is because some posted pictures of the event and someone else said 'OMG BOOBIES OMG OMG OMG OMG'.
They did it last year as well, no pictures, no story. This is completely socially accepted in Taiwan's culture. Stop projecting yours on to it.
$10 says it didn't make the news in the city it happened in, probably not even the country it happened in. No one there CARES.
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