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Court Orders the Pirate Bay To Delete Torrents

Posted by timothy on from the what-about-the-names-of-the-torrents dept.

lbalbalba writes "A Dutch court ruled today that The Pirate Bay has to remove a list of torrents linking to copyrighted works. The list is to be provided by BREIN (similair to the RIAA, in Holland), and is similar to the earlier ruling against Mininova. The defendants are given three months to comply, if not, they will face penalties of 5,000 euros ($7,500) per person, per day."

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  1. Re:Hurrr by fluffy99 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Delete them and let the users make new ones with the same content.

    That's exactly what will happen, as well as new categories will be created to get around the areas that are to be blocked for Dutch users. This does set the precedent that if a site is notified of torrents for copyright infringing materials that they must remove them. This sounds perfectly fair, so long as the person complaining is the legitimate copyright holder and they point to a specific torrent. Afterall, you can't claim ignorance about the torrents if you have been notified. It also puts a burden on the copyright holder to monitor the site for infringing torrents and not the site owners.

  2. Re:Hurrr by _Sharp'r_ · · Score: 4, Interesting

    They should just provide a link on the site to the online version of the court order listing all the links they're supposed to delete.

    Then let them sue the court.

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  3. Solution by MobyDisk · · Score: 3, Interesting

    In that case, they should link to links to copyrighted works. :-)

    All kidding aside, this is so far the best response to piracy I've seen yet. It *almost* makes sense. Since they can't go after the people actually committing the crime, they order the informants to stop informing.

  4. Re:Hurrr by Kryptonian+Jor-El · · Score: 3, Interesting

    What about the fact that torrents can't be "infringing" If I make a torrent of "The Matrix", while I may not own The Matrix, I still own the torrent. BREIN or whatever has no right to claim that my torrent is "infringing" as they are not the copyright holders of the torrent, I am. couldn't someone sue BREIN for unlawfully sending a false DMCA equivalent notice for my work.

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  5. Re:Hurrr by schon · · Score: 5, Interesting

    block all dutch users from accessing *all* copyrighted torrents.

    So they have to block all Dutch users then?

    I would be surprised if there was a *single* item on TPB that wasn't copyrighted, whether it's legal or not.

    Linux distros? Perfectly legal, but still copyrighted.

    Is someone screwing up the translation, or is the Dutch court really that brain-dead?

  6. Delete and Block - a conflicted ruling by Animaether · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Just to note... the lawyer for TPB, Ernst-Jan Louwers, has already pointed out that the ruling is a bit conflicting, noting that the torrents must be removed and -remain- removed AND that Dutch citizens should not be allowed access. ( so which is it.. block, or delete? if they're deleted, they can't be blocked. If they're blocked, why still delete them? )

    Furthermore, but this is not noted by TPB lawyer, as the ruling should only pertain to NL, deleting torrents would not fit in with the jurisdiction.
    This was noted by another laywer, Arnoud Engelfriet, but I'll stress here that I do not think he was acting -as a lawyer giving legal advice- when he made that statement. Though NL doesn't have the crazy "IANAL! IANAL!!!" bullcrap going on (yet).