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A Tale of Two Windows 7s

theodp writes "It was the best of operating systems, it was the worst of operating systems. When it comes to the merits of Windows 7, it looks like Slate's Farhad Manjoo and PC Magazine's John Dvorak are going to have to agree to disagree. Manjoo gives Windows 7 a big thumbs-up (a sincere one, unlike Linus!), calling it a 'crowning achievement,' while Dvorak is less than impressed, saying, 'Win 7 is really just a Vista martini. The operating system may have two olives instead of one this time out, but it's still made with the same cheap Microsoft vodka.' So, for those of you who've had a chance to check things out, are things really different this time?" Multiple readers have also pointed out that there have been problems with the download and installation of Windows 7 upgrades obtained through the student discount offer, which Microsoft has confirmed.

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  1. Die Dvorak by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Seriously allready, it's not funny anymore

  2. Re:Vodka by Altus · · Score: 3, Funny

    that should be thier slogan

    Windows 7: decent

    and only half a decade late

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  3. Re:Vodka by Torodung · · Score: 5, Funny

    If you took an average customer and stuck windows vista and windows 7 in front of them they'd probably not notice the difference.

    Are you the guy behind the "Mojave" campaign? ;^)

  4. Obligatory Futurama response by Dachannien · · Score: 5, Funny

    Small Glurmo: But, your Highness, she's a commoner. Her Slurm will taste foul.
    Slurm Queen: Yes, which is why we'll market it as New Slurm. Then, when everyone hates it, we'll bring back Slurm Classic and make billions!

  5. Re:Dvorak is the enemy of gozu by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Wait... that makes no sense. Dvorak is ragging on M$ (lololo) and that makes him the enemy of /.? You must be new here.

  6. Dvorak is right about Microsoft on this point by Dystopian+Rebel · · Score: 2, Funny

    I don't have any time for Dvorak (or other "pundits") but he is right about Microsoft's publicity and media work being haplessly out of touch. I'm a PC... The Wow Starts Now... Gates and Seinfeld... Windows 7 Party... and, of course, any time CEO Steve Ballboy speaks ("Squirt me that... IBM should do hardware...") or is photographed without a bag over his head.

    I don't foresee buying Windows 7. Windows XP works just fine. I see no compelling reason to attend any Windows 7 "Support Our Corporation" Party unless Pamela Anderson has accepted to do a striptease.

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    1. Re:Dvorak is right about Microsoft on this point by maxume · · Score: 5, Funny

      You have poor taste in strippers.

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  7. Re:Dvorak is the enemy of slashdot by julesh · · Score: 4, Funny

    Dvorak is an idiot, trying to get publicity for his stupid views

    Yeah. What kind of moron makes a martini with vodka?!

  8. Windows 7 is a lovely gift to the Web (for all!) by Tumbleweed · · Score: 2, Funny

    Why? Simple - it gets everyone, even the people who don't know any better, OFF of IE 6 and 7. IE 8 is no great technical achievement, but it sure makes my life easier as a web developer. When the hype is whipped up like it is for Win 7, then people are spurred to upgrade hardware, etc. It's a good deal.

    If you have people in your life who won't change to a Mac or Ubuntu, try getting them to upgrade to Windows 7, PLEASE. Legally or illegally. All of us on Slashdot should know how to get a cracked/activated copy of Win 7 that doesn't call the mothership by now. If that's what it takes to get people off of IE 6, DO IT. The lesser of two evils here is moving people to Win 7/IE 8 rather than letting them stagnate the Web by continuing to use IE 6.

  9. Re:So what? by cjfs · · Score: 4, Funny

    Windows 7 will see me through the next 6 years quite happily.

    Until 2015: The year of the Linux Desktop!

  10. Re:Vodka by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Define comparable.

    Unusable?

  11. Re:A martini... by Quarters · · Score: 4, Funny
    Dear Richard Stallman,

    A Linux distro is made with Linux, GNU and other stuff.

    A GNU/Linux distro is made with Linux, GNU, other stuff, and the rainbows and unicorns that live only in your head.

    Don't post as anonymous coward next time.

  12. Re:A martini... by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 2, Funny

    It is a martini made by Microsoft after all.

    So the ingredients are, what - Kool-aid and cheap tequila?

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  13. Re:A martini... by imsabbel · · Score: 4, Funny

    This is the guy who complained about that "idle process stealing 97% of his cpu power".
    Do you expect he knows what he is talking about?

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  14. Re:Vodka by drsmithy · · Score: 4, Funny

    Uuum, NO. How can you have completely forgotten about the vast DRM horrors that got introduced in Vista? All the other things, like slowness, compatibility problems, partially a bad architecture, were results of this one thing, and by themselves not the relevant points. They existed, because every shit and his mother now had to be encrypted and locked down.

    The FUD is strong in this one.

  15. Re:Vodka by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 2, Funny

    Vista was somewhat unfairly blasted, Windows 7 is being somewhat unfairly hyped.

    Windows 7 is to Vista what XP was to ME, as some have said? Perhaps. I prefer to think of Windows 7 as the Obama of operating systems. Promising, though anything but proven, and its main achievement seems to be being different to a wildly unpopular predecessor.

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  16. Re:Vodka by quarterbuck · · Score: 4, Funny

    Except James bond apparently. His has both Gin and Vodka. And considering that he has been drinking this stuff from the 60's far before Americans even knew what a Vodka was, I think I'll respect his opinion. And I'll respect the opinion of anyone who fought in WW2, drinks Martinis and still can charm the pants off Hale Berry.

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  17. Re:Vodka by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Interesting.. I'm counting 2 BSODs, 6 complete lock ups and a few failures to activate disk drives waking up from sleep mode since Monday

    %SystemRoot%\MEMORY.DMP or it didn't happen.

  18. Re:Vodka by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    So instead of a turd, you're going to have a polished turd?

  19. Re:Vodka, Drunk by XO · · Score: 2, Funny

    Interesting. I can't even USE Firefox on a computer with less than 8Gig of RAM. How do you live?

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  20. Re:Vodka by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    It's certainly not documented anywhere inside Ubuntu's Help Files. I looked. It wasn't there. I swore at being stuck in 640x480 and then reinstalled from CD

    Repeat after me: "Would you like some fries with that?".

  21. Re:Vodka by binkzz · · Score: 3, Funny

    Once I installed Ubuntu some text we're randomly either really, really small and some we're huge.

    I can see how the random text bug affects even your slashdot posts. That should definitely get fixed!

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