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Asus Releases Desktop-Sized Supercomputer

angry tapir writes "Asustek has unveiled its first supercomputer, the desktop computer-sized ESC 1000, which uses Nvidia graphics processors to attain speeds up to 1.1 teraflops. Asus's ESC 1000 comes with a 3.33GHz Intel LGA1366 Xeon W3580 microprocessor designed for servers, along with 960 graphics processing cores from Nvidia inside three Tesla c1060 Computing Processors and one Quadro FX5800."

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  1. Hrmm by acehole · · Score: 5, Funny

    How many pets would I have to eat to balance out the carbon footprint of this?

    I've got a six-pack of kittens at the ready.

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    1. Re:Hrmm by wisty · · Score: 5, Funny

      The PSU is only 1100W. It's not that intensive - three teslas are like three big graphics cards. 2 or 3 kittens would be sufficient, so you've got enough to share.

      Do you have pepper sauce?

    2. Re:Hrmm by mrand · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The PSU is only 1100W

      Only? That's more juice than your microwave (~750 watts), toaster (~1kw), more like a space heater. This thing sucks electricity HARD. A Vaccuum cleaner is about 500-700 watts. I don't think my electric clothes dryer uses as much electricity as this thing, which is using ten times the juice a normal PC uses (or more).

      I doubt you have a single appliance in your house that uses much more electricity than this, and those appliances, unlike a computer, don't run 24/7.

      The pot growers use 650 watt lights. If you get one of these computers, expect to be raided by the DEA when the electric company narcs on you and the DEA sees the heat signature through your walls. They'll have a no-knock warrant, and you'll be lucky if they don't shoot you. They WILL have you face down on the ground with your hands cuffed behind your back. When they find it's a computer and not a pot growing operation, they'll just plant half a pound of dope and arrest you anyway.

      That is, if you survive their entrance. Maybe this will be a good thing, when the DEA starts killing too many innocent people maybe we'll rethink our stupid, insane drug laws.

      Wow. I started counting the number of low estimates in your post and lost track. 1200 Watt microwaves are a dime a dozen. Then we have the 1400 Watt toaster ovens, and 1500 Watt space heaters. And I'm NOT going out of my way to find high numbers... in fact, for every one of these, I quick found items that were considerably more power. We can keep going with your poor estimates: a 4000 Watt clothes dryer and the 180-200 Watt 3 GHz Pentium 4 computer. In fact, the only number you appear to be accurate on is the pot growing (according to Google. I don't like the smell).

      So really, what everyone wants to know is: when did you start growing pot?

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    3. Re:Hrmm by f()rK()_Bomb · · Score: 3, Informative

      His estimates are bang on, maybe his estimates are european, and yours are american? Cause im european, and i usually see 700-800watt microwaves, and small vacuum cleaners.

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  2. Boinc Applications... by Xin+Jing · · Score: 4, Interesting

    As a participant in the Milky Way and SETI projects for BOINC, I can say this development is impressive and would be a cruncher's dream come true. It would put supercomputing power in the hands of the everyman and allow applications that rely on distributed computing to take a leap forward.

    1. Re:Boinc Applications... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      More importantly can this actually run Crysis 2? Probably not.

    2. Re:Boinc Applications... by Hurricane78 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Yeah, as long as that everyman can afford $14,519 for crunching purposes...

      For that price I'd build myself a real virtual reality gaming room.

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  3. Index? by Swoopy · · Score: 3, Funny

    The real question of course is, what the "Windows Vista experience index" of this machine is. If it's anywhere below 5.5 it's obviously not worth the bother.

  4. Super computer? by MosesJones · · Score: 5, Informative

    Ummm isn't this just a ridiculously powerful desktop computer rather than a super computer? The current 500th super computer on the top500 list is this machine which has a Rmax of 17 Tflops and an Rpeak of just over 37.6. Now its impressive that this desktop system has 1/37th of the power of the lowest machine on the super computer list... but does that really make it a super computer? Moore's Law says that it will take around 10 years for this desktop box to evolve to the power of that current bottom top500 box. So in other words its 10 years behind the performance of the current 500th best super computer.

    If its because it hits 1 Tflops then in a few years time you'll have mobile phone "super computers" as Moore's Law is still moving onwards.

    This is a very very fast desktop computer suited to certain simulation elements which are GPU intensive. Nice box, fast box.... but not a real modern super computer.

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    1. Re:Super computer? by the_humeister · · Score: 3, Funny

      Well, that's easy enough. Just get 38 of these things, hook'em together and MosesJones, you will have #500 on that list!

    2. Re:Super computer? by wisty · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "Supercomputer" might mean cluster, a big node (to go in a cluster), or big-iron mainframe.

      It's not a cluster, and it's not much of a mainframe, but it has a helluva lot of FLOPS for a single node. To me, it looks similar to the nodes that went into Roadrunner's TriBlades - 2 Opterons (as general purpose processors) plus 4 PowerXCell 8i (for heavyweight vector processing), and a total of 16G memory. But I'm not an expert.

      Still, I bet that if you could hook 3240 of them together, you would have a strong Top500 contender.

    3. Re:Super computer? by Kumiorava · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Supercomputer is a computer that is one of the most powerful computers available at a given time. Therefore referring top500 list is very valid when determining what is supercomputer and what isn't. Top500 list can very well be used in determining whether we have a supercomputer or not. If the modern computer isn't faster (at least in certain specific tasks) than the lowest performing computer on the list I wouldn't consider it being a supercomputer. I don't understand the need to dilute supercomputer word to include cheap hacks like this, there are valid names for these such as minicomputer. What do we call the best performing computer? superdupercomputer?

  5. But how can you trust the results? by HalfFlat · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The Tesla c1060 processor boards sound like a very efficient way of packing in compute power, but unless they're neglecting to mention it, the 4GB of GDDR3 RAM each has on board has no error correction. Given the rates of correctable errors observed e.g. here, I could never recommend using it for computing simulations that matter. A flipped bit in a floating point number can have a disproportionate affect on the outcome of calculations that rely upon it, and short of running the whole simulation a second or third time, one couldn't be confident that such an error did not occur.

    Large compute-intensive simulations can take weeks, and are used to justify engineering and business decisions that involve the disposition of large amounts of money and other resources — it is important that the computational part of the process can be relied upon.

    1. Re:But how can you trust the results? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I'm a student at the University of Washington and once talked to a representative for Cray about using GPU's a a cheaper supercomputer and he told me that they generally have a nontrivial error rate. The issue with using ECC memory is that the GPU's are also libel for errors within their computations, making the ECC RAM pointless. A weird pixel in one frame of a game is no problem, but an error when performing a large simulation creates problems if the algorithm isn't designed to compensate for that noise.

    2. Re:But how can you trust the results? by mkaushik · · Score: 5, Informative

      Then you would be happy to know that Nvidia's new Fermi chip supports ECC throughout the architecture.

    3. Re:But how can you trust the results? by bertok · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The Tesla c1060 processor boards sound like a very efficient way of packing in compute power, but unless they're neglecting to mention it, the 4GB of GDDR3 RAM each has on board has no error correction. Given the rates of correctable errors observed e.g. here, I could never recommend using it for computing simulations that matter. A flipped bit in a floating point number can have a disproportionate affect on the outcome of calculations that rely upon it, and short of running the whole simulation a second or third time, one couldn't be confident that such an error did not occur.

      Large compute-intensive simulations can take weeks, and are used to justify engineering and business decisions that involve the disposition of large amounts of money and other resources — it is important that the computational part of the process can be relied upon.

      Which is why the upcoming NVIDIA "Fermi" GPU based boards will support 4GB of ECC memory. Also, they'll have about 2 TFLOPS of single-precision power, and you can stack 4 of them in a box = 8 TFLOPS beside your desk.

      I can't wait until the US government starts banning these things because they could be used by terrorists to design nuclear weapons or something. 8)

  6. Re:No point running desktop Windows on this monste by NewbieProgrammerMan · · Score: 4, Insightful

    While I wouldn't choose to do my scientific computing on Windows, I know some people do, and those Tesla cards (which are providing the bulk of the processing power) really don't care which OS you're running.

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  7. Eat a vacuum cleaner by syousef · · Score: 4, Funny

    The PSU is only 1100W. It's not that intensive - three teslas are like three big graphics cards. 2 or 3 kittens would be sufficient, so you've got enough to share.

    1100W? Can I eat my vacuum cleaner instead? Yummy.

    Do you have pepper sauce?

    Pepper sauce? Pepper sauce?!? Do you have any idea what the carbon footprint of pepper sauce is? My brother ate pepper sauce once. He had to eat a whole zoo full of animals to make up for it! Stay away from the sauce!

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    1. Re:Eat a vacuum cleaner by Fred_A · · Score: 5, Funny

      >Pepper sauce? Pepper sauce?!? Do you have any idea what the carbon footprint of pepper sauce is? My brother ate pepper sauce once. He had to eat a whole zoo full of animals to make up for it! Stay away from the sauce!

      But it's *green* pepper !

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  8. Thats not a super desktop computer idea by AHuxley · · Score: 4, Interesting
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  9. Re:No point running desktop Windows on this monste by RightSaidFred99 · · Score: 3, Informative

    And you're saying this...why? Are you somehow convinced that these processors show up as general purpose CPUs? They don't. There is no conceivable reason something like this "needs" Windows. You're going to have specialized compilers generating specialized code that gets handed off to the GPUs. OS is mostly a non-issue.

  10. Re:Not long ago by XDirtypunkX · · Score: 3, Interesting

    We've had over a teraflop of single precision available to consumers in graphics card form for a few years now; the newly released ATI 5870 actually has more than double that in a single chip. Soon the 5870 x2 (with double the performance again) will be out and you'll be able to have multiple of those in one PC.

  11. Re:No point running desktop Windows on this monste by hherb · · Score: 4, Funny

    Nah - with such processing power, one might actually see a Windows machine perform properly! From boot to blue screen of death in mere milliseconds! Run your malware faster than ever! See clippy dance furiously across the screen in smooth 250 fps animation!

  12. How about non Floating Point performance ? by Gori · · Score: 4, Insightful

    San somebody who has actually worked with such machines enlighten me about its performance on tasks that are not floating point intensive? Our simulations mainly push many,many objects around, with relatively little, or no floating point math in them.

    Do such machines still make sense, or are we better off with a bunch of general purpose CPUs clustered together? How do they compare to Suns Niagara cpus that have umpteen hardware threads in them ?

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    1. Re:How about non Floating Point performance ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I work in military research in the UK, we've been building similar machines to this general spec (Xeon/Nehalem/Nvidia Teslas/loads of RAM) for a year of so now. This type of machine is pretty amazing for running our engineering codes; we've achieved a 30x speed up in some cases when compared to a regular high end desktop PC, running a variety of fluid dynamics codes.

      Although it's not a high priority to my management, I personally think the power consumption of the Teslas when compared to regular super computers is the outstanding thing about them. It's like 110W Vs 30Kw! Not to mention they're very portable, and don't require much specialist cooling. You can literally have engineers with 2 terraflops sitting under their desks for £2000, and not have to spend >£30,000 on electricity per year.

      Do such machines still make sense, or are we better off with a bunch of general purpose CPUs clustered together? How do they compare to Suns Niagara cpus that have umpteen hardware threads in them ?

      They're equivalent to "a bunch of general purpose CPUs clustered together", depends on your code.

  13. Re:No point running desktop Windows on this monste by TheRaven64 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yes indeed. Who in their right mind would run anything GPU-intensive on Windows? The platform is well known for having absolutely terrible video drivers. I hear that most manufacturers don't even support the platform, and just expect the community to write drivers!

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  14. Not an Eee! by quenda · · Score: 4, Funny

    I was expecting it to be called the Eee-1. But EEE-niac would have been cool too.