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Mozilla Releases SeaMonkey 2.0

binarybum writes "Often forgotten, but the independent open source spirit lives strong in the once Mozilla project — now SeaMonkey. Version 2.0 is finally out and rivals Firefox with similar features but integrated email with a small footprint." The Register has a short piece on the 2.0 release, which mentions that SeaMonkey is now based on Firefox 3.5.4. Stephen Shankland lists some of the features in a handy bullet-point style, too. I'm using the new release right now; it's crashed once — but only once — in several hours of use.

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  1. Really, you're OK with that? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    one crash every couple of hours is where we're setting the bar now?

    if this was a Microsoft product you'd be outraged and laughing about the ridiculous uptime.

    1. Re:Really, you're OK with that? by jeffstar · · Score: 4, Insightful

      here's reproducability for you

      1. install adobe flash player
      2. browse the web with any browser, especially visit sites with flash content. For extra daring attempts, open multiple tabs with flash content at the same time.
      3. the crashes!!!

      That being said youtube doesn't normally cause crashes for me, so it is probably shitty flash applications from shitty websites.

      i hope to god something has replaced flash in 10 years.

  2. Re:So... by AllNicksTaken · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I do. I like its interface much better than FireFox. Crazy, I know. Unfortunately many websites run compatibility checks and freak out if your browser isn't FireFox, Safari, or IE. My main preference of all stupid things is that I have always hated Firefox's search bar. Too many years of searching via SeaMonkey's address bar I guess.

  3. flash ? by polar+red · · Score: 3, Insightful

    it's crashed once -- but only once -- in several hours of use.

    flash ?

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  4. Re:Not based on Firefox, other way around by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    No. The rendering engine is Gecko, and until this release, Seamonkey was stuck with the same version of Gecko as as FF v2.

  5. More similarity with Firefox isn't all good by Ktistec+Machine · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I've used Seamonkey as my default browser for a long time now, mainly because I like the user interface better. Seamonkey 2.0 now uses Firefox's printing system, though, and this is one of the main things I don't like about Firefox. I use lpr for printing, not cups, and I liked the fact that earlier versions of Seamonkey (and "Mozilla" before it) remembered any changes I made to the "lpr command" in the print dialog. Firefox uses gtk-print, which reverts back to the default lpr command every time you click print, even in the same session. I've reported this as a bug in the Seamonkey bugzilla.

    Regarding crashes, I've seen another report of this at LWN.

  6. Re:So... by BForrester · · Score: 5, Informative

    I hate the search bar in Firefox too, so I deleted it and set up keyword searches for the half-dozen search engines I use regularly. (If you're not familiar with this FF function, right-click on any search box and select "add a keyword for this search."

    For example, "g" is my google keyword. To google something, I type
    g something

    It works like a charm.

  7. It did what once? by glwtta · · Score: 4, Informative

    Wait, this is the final release and it crashed within a few hours?

    That's... not good.

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  8. SeaMonkey Composer is the best... by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 5, Informative

    SeaMonkey Composer is the best way to make WYSIWYG, What You See Is What You Get, HTML files.

    Unless, of course, you want to deal with the quirkiness and huge expense of Adobe Dreamweaver. Dreamweaver has more features, but SeaMonkey is usually all you need.

    Use TsWebEditor for Tidying SeaMonkey HTML files.

    1. Re:SeaMonkey Composer is the best... by kaze_fr · · Score: 4, Informative

      I confirm most of this story, except that I'm French, not German. ;-)

      The way I see it, Nvu was a trademarked fork of [Mozilla|SeaMonkey] Composer: it's been designed in a way that made it incompatible with the Mozilla trunk, probably on purpose. The KompoZer project aims to backport most of the Nvu code to the Mozilla codebase — hence the upcoming merge with SeaMonkey.

      KompoZer will remain a standalone app: it will be built on SeaMonkey 2.1, and SeaMonkey Composer should have most of KompoZer's features and bug-fixes.

      -- Fabien Cazenave, KompoZer lead dev.

  9. Re:So... by hairyfeet · · Score: 3, Interesting

    User Agent switcher will fix that problem for you.I keep it around myself, and have found it is MUCH easier to convert older folks to SeaMonkey than to Firefox, as they remember the old Netscape days and prefer its layout. I'll admit I prefer it for certain jobs, such as it is the browser I use for secure transactions. I just like the "feel" of SeaMonkey better than Firefox, which sometimes feels kinda dumbed down to me.

    Of course it is the excellent Firefox extensions library that keeps me coming back to FF. Oh curse you and your large library of extensions goodness!

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  10. Totally Your Opinion by repetty · · Score: 3, Insightful


    > Users need the flexibility to choose their own mail program.

    Could you please direct me to the RFC that stipulates this?

    Maybe by choosing SeaMonkey they HAVE chosen their own email program.

    Well, you got first post, at least.

    --Richard

  11. Re:Why?! by geekoid · · Score: 4, Informative

    Because a lot of people like having that integration.

    You don't? Then use something else and quit whining.

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  12. Re:So... by Spad · · Score: 3, Interesting

    http://prefbar.mozdev.org/

    First plugin I install for SeaMonkey: Home button, toggles for colours, fonts, images, JavaScript, Java, Flash, pop-ups; drop downs for Proxy settings, User Agent, window size - couldn't live without it.

  13. Re:Do you get like... 2 mails per day? by Korin43 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Exactly. Gmail is nice, but connecting to it from Evolution is nicer.

  14. Re:Who cares anymore? by mqduck · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Users need the flexibility to choose their own mail program.

    They have that flexibility. They can use Firefox.

    Besides, webmail is today's king.

    I don't know about you, but I can't stand webmail.

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