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What Happened To the Bay Bridge?

farnsworth writes "Tony Alfrey has put together a fascinating page with some history, analysis, and possible explanations for what ultimately went wrong with the recent emergency repair of the San Francisco-Oakland Bay Bridge. The bridge has been closed for days and is not scheduled to open for days to come, hugely inconveniencing more than 250,000 people a day. His analysis touches on possibly poor welding, a possibly flawed temporary fix, and the absence of a long-term fix or adequate follow-up by Caltrans, the agency responsible for the bridge. Slashdot is a great engineering community; what other insights do you have on the bridge situation?"

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  1. First Failure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    Forgot to fasten those cables, eh?

  2. still dead! by MickyTheIdiot · · Score: 3, Funny

    For several work mornings the headline on "the new" CNN.com has been "Bay Bridge still closed."

    In my head I hear it in the voice of Chevy Chase.

    "General Francisco Franco is still dead!"

    1. Re:still dead! by Prien715 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Slashdot is a great engineering community

      He must be new here;)

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    2. Re:still dead! by tsm_sf · · Score: 4, Funny

      He must be old here.

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    3. Re:still dead! by JWSmythe · · Score: 4, Funny

          Aw, everyone knows Slashdot is full of experts. Even if we don't know what we're talking about, we'll still pretend to be experts. Well, until a real expert speaks up and makes us look stupid. :)

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    4. Re:still dead! by zebu111 · · Score: 2, Funny

      shit happens people... like anyone here could fix it the worse part for me is i cant get to my drug dealer in Oakland

  3. Speaking as the owner, I'm furious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Four years ago I bought that bridge along with a package of subprime mortgages to highly qualified homeowners.

  4. No worries about the Bay Bridge! by schmidt349 · · Score: 1, Funny

    If you're interested, I can get you a great deal on a used bridge here in NY to replace it. Shipping and handling from Long Island not included.

    1. Re:No worries about the Bay Bridge! by Bitmanhome · · Score: 3, Funny

      Bridges aren't that expensive, it's the assembly and installation that kills you.

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    2. Re:No worries about the Bay Bridge! by Yonzie · · Score: 2, Funny

      Bridges aren't that expensive, it's the assembly and installation that kills you.

      ... so it's like buying Ikea?

  5. Temporary fix insufficent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    They should have used duct-tape!

  6. whoa by nimbius · · Score: 3, Funny

    I knew people had been talking about the state falling apart due to budget problems, but i didnt think they meant it literally

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  7. Wrong audience by Noose+For+A+Neck · · Score: 5, Funny
    Slashdot is a great engineering community; what other insights do you have on the bridge situation?

    No, Slashdot is mostly made up of computer janitors; the greatest insight you'll get out of most of the posters here is, "hurrr durr, the bridge must've been running Windoze! LOL!", with maybe a little "omg the twin towers were collapsed by EXPLOSIVES!!!!"-style conspiracy theory and "THE GOVERNMENT IS BAD!!!" braindead libertarianism thrown in for color.

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    1. Re:Wrong audience by stimpleton · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yes, the fact these planes had fuel on-board was a unique situation, and would be an unforseen consequence of a plane crash.

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  8. Closing the bridge makes it 100% safe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    If their goal was to improve the safety of the bridge, then they totally succeeded.

  9. Re:Bay bridge fix by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Thank goodness you're here! Judd Ascrak has been welding on this thing all night and I'm starting to think we need someone with... a bit of experience who is able to work as a civil engineer. We've been staring at our torch tips all night wondering if we should place an ad or try craigslist.

    I asked them to give you a call. Our IT guy has a bit of experience using a phone, so I'll have him set up the connection.

  10. Re:small by neoform · · Score: 5, Funny

    The US spends $1.15 trillion a year on 'Defense', only bleeding heart liberals would want to waste any of that money on silly things like infrastructure.

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  11. Re:My insight by ucblockhead · · Score: 2, Funny

    I agree it is important. It keeps drivers from clogging up my train ride every morning. But it isn't a "landmark" in the sense that tourists don't go to look at it. (Except for the dumb ones suckered by locals saying "it's being repainted...the gray is the primer.")

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  12. Imagine a beowulf cluster of bay bridges, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    &.c &c. &c.

  13. Re:What Happened To the Bay Bridge? by Hognoxious · · Score: 2, Funny

    Sir, I can make no claims as to the veracity nor contrewise of your premises.

    However, should they prove to be true then surely a far greater mystery is how it has stayed up so far.

    Verily thine,

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  14. Re:What Happened To the Bay Bridge? by Rakarra · · Score: 2, Funny

    I suspect that California educated engineers had a lot to do with the problem. A panel had to decide how to fix the problem. The panel was composed, by law, of one gay, one lesbian, one transvestite, one Mormon, one Moslem, one Black, one Hispanic - the list goes on and on.

    You REALLY don't know how things work in California.

    We got rid of the Mormon after the Prop 8 debacle.