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Giant Rift In Africa Will Create a New Ocean

Hugh Pickens writes "Researchers at the University of Rochester believe that a 35-mile rift in the desert of Ethiopia will likely become a new ocean in a million years or so, connecting the Red Sea with the Gulf of Aden. Using newly gathered seismic data, researchers have reconstructed how the rift tore open along its entire 35-mile length in just days. Dabbahu, a volcano at the northern end of the rift, erupted first, then magma pushed up through the middle of the rift area and began 'unzipping' the rift in both directions. 'We know that seafloor ridges are created by a similar intrusion of magma into a rift, but we never knew that a huge length of the ridge could break open at once like this,' says Cindy Ebinger, professor of earth and environmental sciences at the University of Rochester. The results show that highly active volcanic boundaries along the edges of tectonic ocean plates may suddenly break apart in large sections, instead of in bits, as the leading theory had previously held. The sudden large-scale events pose a much more serious hazard to populations living near the rift than would several smaller events."

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  1. Scam coming in your inbox today! by MickyTheIdiot · · Score: 4, Funny

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  2. "In a million years or so" by denzacar · · Score: 4, Funny

    Nothing to see here folks... move along. Come back in a million years or so.

    What's next? Another story about Duke Nukem Forever?

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  3. Noah's flood and a massive deluge by BadAnalogyGuy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    There is a theory that the flood story of Noah is based on the actual deluge which created the Black Sea.

    Before the Flood, this area was simply a low-lying area, but approximately 5000 years ago waters from the Mediterranean Sea spilled over the Bosporus and rapidly filled the Black Sea area within days. The massive influx of water wiped out many local civilizations and probably gave rise to the Flood legend.

    If this rift is going to become a new ocean, the water must come from somewhere. If it all comes at once, we could see a massive loss of life and property, especially as the problematic area lies in some of the poorest parts of the globe. In another 5000 years, we could be debating if the Savior Adibi Christ walked with elephants!

    1. Re:Noah's flood and a massive deluge by pe1rxq · · Score: 5, Informative

      Except that it didn't happen in just a few days....
      It is still a nice theory though... just not as dramatic.
      Another nice theory is that the 'flood' was just a local one.
      Not so long ago the world ended at the horizon for most people since they never traveled far from home.
      And since a lot of civilizations started in river deltas (which tend to flood now and then) it is not a surprise that many religions contain some flooding in their myths.

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    2. Re:Noah's flood and a massive deluge by Enleth · · Score: 2, Funny

      It's going to be even more interesting than that. The area is reatively close to the shore, and the pit is actually volcanic. Guess what happens when a big mass of water spills over and enters the pit.. Well, it's a shame this is Ethiopia and not Nigeria, because if it were the latter, it would be raining scammers after the massive steam explosion that is bound to happen there...

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    3. Re:Noah's flood and a massive deluge by slim · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Except that it didn't happen in just a few days....

      There are fairly mainstream theories that as the Ice Age ended, ice deposits in the Arctic melted into enormous lakes. Really enormous lakes. All that was holding this water in was ice. When finally the ice holding all this water in melted and cracked, all that water was released in a sudden catastrophic event. Rivers to dwarf anything we have today. Sea levels globally rising by several metres, in a matter of days.

      I was always dubious about the idea that a gradual rise in sea levels would result in all those deluge myths worldwide (Atlantis, Cantre'r Gwaelod, Noah, etc.). I'm much more convinced if it can be sudden. That would certainly enter into oral history.

      Unfortunately the best source I can offer right now is the Beringia Museum in Whitehorse, British Columbia. A bit of a trek for most people. I guess if I were to Google a bit I could find something online, but hey, I ain't gonna.

    4. Re:Noah's flood and a massive deluge by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      The geologic evidence is pretty clear that these huge "Missoula Floods" repeatedly blew through the southeast quadrant of Washington State, sometimes covering about a third of the state.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missoula_Floods

    5. Re:Noah's flood and a massive deluge by alen · · Score: 2, Interesting

      there was an 1800's geologist in the US who studied strange markings on the great plains. his theory was that at the end of the last ice age the ice burst and a huge avalanche of water hit the ground going so fast that it created water tornadoes that tore up the ground. the kids cartoon Ice Age copied his theory

    6. Re:Noah's flood and a massive deluge by JerkBoB · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I believe you might be referring to the Channeled Scablands in Washington State? I remember seeing a documentary about that. Interesting stuff. The research happened a bit later than the 1800s, unless you're referring to something else. More pictures and information.

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    7. Re:Noah's flood and a massive deluge by MBGMorden · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I think you're being too harsh on the OP. He specifically mentioned other flood stories in his post.

      The simple fact is that oral stories and traditions (Christianity aside) usually have SOME basis in reality. Christianity isn't the only religion with a flood story. The Greek's also had a flood story where Zeus flooded the world. As you mention there is also the Babylonian flood story. Countless other cultures in that area have a flood story. It's not being a "Christian apologetic" to look for real events that may have inspired such stories - it's researching history.

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    8. Re:Noah's flood and a massive deluge by radtea · · Score: 5, Insightful

      There is a theory that the flood story of Noah is based on the actual deluge which created the Black Sea.

      No, the flood story of Noah is based on the Sumerian story of Utnapishtim. The Sumerian story of Utnapishtim may be based on the Black Sea (or even Mediterranian) inundation, but the Noah story is just a copy of the Sumerian story, with all the roles of the various Sumerian gods subsumed by a rather confused and contradictory Hebrew god.

      Given the Sumerians were a river culture (think about what "Mesopotamia" means) it is at least as plausible that the Sumerian flood story, which is what the biblical flood story is based on, arose from plausible fears of a great innundation, much as zombie stories arise today from a plausible fear of Republicans.

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    9. Re:Noah's flood and a massive deluge by the_arrow · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yeah, I saw a movie about this once. Ice Age 2 I think it was called...

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    10. Re:Noah's flood and a massive deluge by Dragonslicer · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Anyone who doesn't have a religious agenda to promote tends to find it pretty dang obvious that the Jewish flood story was based off the Babylonian/Sumerian one.

      Sure, plenty of cultures in western Asia at the time had similar flood stories. How do you leap to the conclusion that these stories weren't based on some real event?

    11. Re:Noah's flood and a massive deluge by G-Man · · Score: 2, Informative
      Yeah there are lots of stupid theories from Christian apologetics

      Yeah, like those fundies at PBS!

      Or those zealots at National Geographic!

      Or all those bible thumpers at Columbia University! Buncha holy rollers!

    12. Re:Noah's flood and a massive deluge by RockDoctor · · Score: 2, Interesting

      There is a theory that the flood story of Noah is based on the actual deluge which created the Black Sea.

      You've missed out the "discredited" in "a discredited theory".

      OK, that's maybe being a bit harsh on Ryan & Pitmann, whose ideas you refer to. Their theory was reasonable, plausible, and testable. It has been tested and found to be at the least flawed, if not completely unworkable. As I recall - and I'm only working from memory - one of the predictions of the Ryan/ Pitmann theory was that there would be, amongst other things, mega-dunes and other evidence of upper-flow regime erosion and redeposition in the throat of the Bhosporous. But what has been found, by shallow seismic imaging, is evidence of multiple strong flows form the Bhosporous, at multiple times, with variable spacings. So the Ryan/ Pitmann hypothesis of one Black Sea flood is disproved by the evidence. That their broader hypothesis (that the level in the Black Sea has risen substantially in pre-to-peri-historic times) is supported, but it may well have been a case of getting a couple of metres rise every few years, with a particularly midi-flood.
      To the best of my knowledge, one of the original authors (Ryan, or Pitmann ; I don't recall which) has dropped the idea after working it for a half-decade or so, while the other is continuing to try and work variations on the idea.
      Science is like that - attractive hypotheses get slain (or at least, maimed) by ugly facts.

      If this rift is going to become a new ocean, the water must come from somewhere.

      Yes, the water must come from somewhere. But to make a volume below sea level into which sea water can flood, you'll have to move one or two blocks of crust to the sides to make that "accommodation space". That space will come by moving the other sides of the appropriate continental blocks into the oceans. Which will raise the level of the seas in those oceans (probably the global ocean system). Which will make the breach of the spill point happen all the sooner.
      Geologically, the working assumption is that the volume of water in the oceans is constant. What can change more easily is the volume of the ocean basins. The largest contribution to changing that is by varying the density of rock in the seabed, either by temperature changes (which is what is happening with the rifting) or by hydration of rocks (which takes water out of the oceans ... quid pro quo).

      If it all comes at once, we could see a massive loss of life and property,

      We'd see massive movement of people and property into the highly active volcanic region first. At which point, you tell people "if you go there, you will die. Or any descendants you have who remain there will die there. you may as well face your problems here rather than try to run away there. Besides, life is probably easier here than down in that rift. Seriously - there won't even be any soil for a half-millennium or so. Spider soup (made without any drinking water ; there isn't any) is going to be your main food."
      I'd make humanitarian aid available - a sufficient number of body bags with a nice flammable lining which will make cremation easy. One would need a timing mechanism, so that the last person to die could put on the lights.

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  4. Rising Sea Levels by Fez · · Score: 5, Funny

    There's the answer to rising sea levels... Divert the water into what will eventually become an ocean basin anyway.

  5. Poor Headline by dkf · · Score: 5, Informative

    The news is not that the East African rift will form a new ocean - that's been known for a few years - but that it can happen very quickly. A timescale of days for an event of that scale is really rather significant, since it means that if something like it were to happen anywhere near existing infrastructure, our ability to adapt to it would be extremely limited. Well, not until afterwards anyway.

    Another geographical blunder in the article is saying that the rift will connect the Red Sea and the Gulf of Aden. That's because they're already connected.

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  6. Meanwhile... by martin-boundary · · Score: 2, Funny
    Meanwhile, in deepest Africa....

    "M'gulu gulu mulugu lugulugu" (*)

    "lugulugu um'gulu lulu?"

    "gugu"

    "gugu lulu gugu?"

    "gugu kaboom"

    (*) Translation:

    "There's something very important I forgot to tell you."

    "What?"

    "Don't cross the streams."

    "Why?"

    "It would be bad."

  7. Great Lakes are in a "Failed Rift" by piotru · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Not every rift is going to become an ocean like Atlantic. Some fail, as did the rift under the Big Lakes. Correct my rusty geology if I'm wrong.

    1. Re:Great Lakes are in a "Failed Rift" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Sort of...2 actually...

      From Wikipeida..

      "It has been estimated that the foundational geology which created the conditions shaping the present day upper Great Lakes was laid from 1.1 to 1.2 billion years ago,[4][8] when two previously fused tectonic plates split apart and created the Midcontinent Rift. A valley was formed providing a basin that eventually became modern day Lake Superior. When a second fault line, the Saint Lawrence rift, formed approximately 570 million years ago,[4] the basis for Lakes Ontario and Erie were created, along with what would become the St. Lawrence River.

      The Great Lakes are estimated to have been formed at the end of the last ice age (i.e. about 10,000 years ago), when the Laurentide ice sheet receded. The retreat of the ice sheet left behind a large amount of meltwater (see Lake Agassiz) which filled up the basins that the glaciers had carved, thus creating the Great Lakes as we know them today.[9] Because of the uneven nature of glacier erosion, some higher hills became Great Lakes islands. The Niagara Escarpment follows the contour of the Great Lakes between New York and Wisconsin. Land below the glaciers "rebounded" as it was uncovered.[10] Because the glaciers covered some areas longer than others, this glacial rebound occurred at different rates. Some researchers believe that differential has contributed to fluctuating water levels throughout the Great Lakes basin."

      Whole page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_lakes

    2. Re:Great Lakes are in a "Failed Rift" by penguinchris · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It often takes several combined factors to form features like the great lakes. The glaciers played a huge role in shaping the landscape, but that's just on top of the rifting etc. I might mention also that the rifting stuff is limited to the western great lakes (particularly Superior) - lakes Erie and Ontario were formed essentially exclusively by glacial and other erosional processes. There has been a lot written on this topic - it's pretty interesting to read through the understood history of the region, and how these ideas were formed.

      As the other guy mentioned, there are a lot of interesting geology field trip stops around the great lakes that help one to understand how this works. The University of Rochester itself is basically a field trip stop - it's built on a glacial moraine. The adjacent Mt. Hope Cemetery, which dates back to the founding of the city in the early 1800s, is extremely hilly and jam-packed full of interesting glacial features. And it's quite easy to see the difference between Erie/Ontario and Superior just by visiting both areas - and not hard to imagine that they were formed by a variety of different processes.

      Source & disclaimer: I am a geology grad student, I'm originally from Buffalo, NY - on lake Erie - and I got my B.S. in geology at the University of Rochester, actually; so I'm familiar with geology of the great lakes region (particularly New York and its adjacent lakes Erie and Ontario).

  8. New ocean connecting what now? by Gorath99 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Researchers at the University of Rochester believe that a 35-mile rift in the desert of Ethiopia will likely become a new ocean in a million years or so, connecting the Red Sea with the Gulf of Aden.

    Wow! This is a revolution!

    1. Re:New ocean connecting what now? by NotBornYesterday · · Score: 4, Funny

      Water views land as damage and routes around it.

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  9. Re:Maybe by JasterBobaMereel · · Score: 2

    Millions of Tonnes of Salt water .... would do very little

    The region in question is in places very low in population simply because it is a volcanic arid wasteland .... other parts however are lush and full of life which would be wiped out by this new ocean ...

    Rapid change on this scale is always bad news in the short term ... (short term measured in 1000's of years)

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  10. Surfin' Ethiopia! by captainpanic · · Score: 5, Funny

    If everybody had an ocean
    Across the desert sands,
    Then everybody'd be surfin'
    Like Ethiop-I-A
    You'd see 'em wearin' their baggies
    Huarachi sandals, too
    A bushy bushy blonde hairdo
    Surfin' Africa.

  11. Re:how come we have only 3 oceans? by CuriHP · · Score: 3, Informative

    We already have more than 3. Try again.

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  12. Whitehorse, Yukon by justthinkit · · Score: 2, Informative

    Whitehorse is the capital of the Yukon territory, that borders the northern part of British Columbia and borders the eastern part of Alaska. [map]

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  13. Land Before Time... by Jamori · · Score: 3, Interesting

    As a child, I had nightmares about the giant rifts dramatically opening in the ground like they did in the Land Before Time movie. I had since convinced myself this was unlikely to happen, and assuaged my fears.
    Thanks a lot, "Researchers at the University of Rochester"...

  14. That's somewhat different actually by penguinchris · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The basin and range represents continental crustal extension, which is spread out across the entire region. This is more-or-less driven by pulling on either end. Actually, the driving forces are not completely understood (which is why I'm using "more-or-less" to describe these things).

    Oceanic crustal extension, on the other hand, is more-or-less being pushed apart from the center. So the rifting and so on is focused in one area - the rift zone. That's why the Mid Atlantic Ridge or the East African Rift - spreading centers - are (more or less) linear features and not spread out like the basin and range is.

    Note that while I call it "oceanic crustal extension", it is obviously not limited to oceanic crust - it is rifting the continental crust in Africa. But, this is why we say a new ocean will form here, but not in the western US. When the continental crust is pushed open enough, oceanic crust will begin to form. Oceanic crust is thin and dense, which is why it's topographically lower than continental crust, which tends to form more thickly and is less dense.

    I'm a geology grad student (and my B.S. in geology is from the University of Rochester, where this latest research is from) studying tectonics, but I'll admit freely that my explanation may be wrong as this isn't really my focus (I'm more interested in compressional, rather than extensional, tectonics). So I welcome any corrections anyone can offer.