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EMI Sues Beatles Usurper Off the Net

blackest_k sends along a Wired piece on EMI's successful suit to get Beatles music off the Net. Here is the judge's ruling (PDF). "A federal judge on Thursday ordered a Santa Cruz company to immediately quit selling Beatles and other music on its online site, setting aside a preposterous argument that it had copyrights on songs via a process called 'psycho-acoustic simulation.' A Los Angeles federal judge set aside arguments from Hank Risan, owner of BlueBeat and other companies named as defendants in the lawsuit EMI filed on Tuesday. His novel defense to allegations he was unlawfully selling the entire stereo Beatles catalog without permission was that he — and not EMI or the Beatles' Apple Corp — owns these sound recordings, because he re-recorded new versions of the songs using what he termed 'psycho-acoustic simulation.' Risan faces perhaps millions of dollars in damages under the Copyright Act. And copyright attorneys said his defense was laughable and carries no weight."

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  1. Re:Maybes its a good time for them to get on iTune by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Psycho-acoustic simulation sounds like a real good pseudo-science.

    It's what most of us call mp3 or m4a.

  2. Re:I wouldn't listen to the naysayers by BadAnalogyGuy · · Score: 5, Funny

    Generalize much?

    never.

  3. What kind of idiotic title is that anyway? by Briareos · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Is it just me, or is EMI not suing the Beatles (half of which aren't even going to show up in court), but really some fuckwad that sold illegal copies of their songs?

    np: Burial - Distant Lights (Various - 5 Years Of Hyperdub (Disc 2))

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    1. Re:What kind of idiotic title is that anyway? by dmbasso · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The story is tagged badtitle when in fact it should be wrongtitle, or even better toostupidtomakeagoodtitle.

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    2. Re:What kind of idiotic title is that anyway? by blackest_k · · Score: 5, Informative

      that wasn't my title, actually its been completely rewritten by K Dawson, editors do a lot more than people think on here.

      The site is still up and offers 160kb streaming of a good quantity of music for free and you can buy tracks at 25 cents each I believe and some remarkably high quality original recordings of some familiar tracks.

        http://www.bluebeat.com/

  4. Piracy by whisper_jeff · · Score: 5, Insightful

    THIS is the sort of piracy that the RIAA (and member companies) should fight against. THIS is the sort of piracy that I think any intelligent human being opposes. THIS is the sort of copyright violation that the laws were written to combat.

    1. Re:Piracy by 0racle · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Shouldn't he have to face the same insane damages that file sharers face? Only a million in fines? If I shared Sgt. Pepper, I'd be looking at several times that and this guy was selling the whole catalog.

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  5. No, they didn't by mcgrew · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I actually RTFA, and Beatles music is still available in internet jukeboxes. What happened is some guy tried to twist copyright law in a foolish and illogical way, saying that resampled Beatles songs are his, and he actually registered copyrights of them. The judge PREDICTABLY and logically ruled against him. I'd have laughed him out of court.

    EMI holds the real copyrights, sued, and won. The guy posting Beatles songs was clearly in the wrong. As is the summary.

    The true evil here is that the Beatles' music should be in the public domain by now; they broke up in 1971, almost forty years ago. You should be able to reuse their art in your own art by now; that was, in fact, the whole purpose of giving Congress the power to write copyright law in the first place.

    1. Re:No, they didn't by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If falls in the PD, then no one should be allowed to profit

      That's possibly the dumbest interpretation of "public domain" I've seen here, and that's saying a lot. Here's a biscuit!

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  6. Re:Worst headline EVAR by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yeah call it "worst evar", "lurid", and "mischaracterizing", but do not try to explain *why* it is wrong, it's much more dramatic that way.

  7. Re:I wouldn't listen to the naysayers by BrokenHalo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So, in your expert opinion, everyone involved is wrong?

    Why not? I know the dumbing-down of the modern media urges us to think in terms of black and white concepts, but there should be room for this. EMI are obviously evil copyright trolls, and this Hank Risan is equally obviously selling copyrighted material. Shakespeare (as always) has a good line for this:

    "A plague on both your houses."

  8. Re:Maybes its a good time for them to get on iTune by mea37 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Why, why, why must people who might otherwise help argue the case that today's copyright is broken spoil their credibility with exageration and mis-statement of facts?

    1 - Not every person on Earth benefits from public domain music. Some are too damned busy trying to remain alive.

    2 - The Beatle's copyrights do not funnel every penny made off of sale of their music to the surviving band members.

    Yes, their music should be out of copyright by now. You'd be a greater help to the cause of copyright reform that would make that happen by sticking to reality and sounding like you've thought the issue through, than by spouting off feel-good numbers that make it sound like you're wearing blinders so you can reach the conclusion you want.

  9. Re:Santa Cruz, California by Homburg · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The crazy people in Berkeley wander around pushing shopping carts; the crazy people in Glastonbury sit in fields smoking pot. What is distinctive about Santa Cruz is its peculiarly high-functioning crazy people, like this guy, who are entirely divorced from reality, yet somehow manage to, for instance, run a record label.

  10. Re:Maybes its a good time for them to get on iTune by millennial · · Score: 5, Informative

    Parent deserves to be modded up for pointing out what most people will likely miss. Psycho-acoustic simulation is the process by which audio compression techniques remove bits of audio recordings in ways that the human brain is likely not to notice. It's part of the reason MP3 files can be compressed at all.

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  11. Re:Santa Cruz, California by smitty777 · · Score: 5, Funny

    As a native of the People's Republic of Berkeley, I will be organizing a march to protest this obvious attempt at profiling and oppression. Meanwhile - dude, I've got the munchies...are you going to finish those fries?

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  12. Re:Maybes its a good time for them to get on iTune by schon · · Score: 5, Informative

    Thank you for supporting my viewpoint that copyright has been hijacked. It's meant to benefit the originators of the idea, not suits that were not even born when the songs were first created.

    Actually, that's incorrect. Before copyright, there were no artists or writers clamouring for "protection". The people pushing copyright were the publishers, who wanted copyright to benefit themselves (which is exactly what we have right now.) The whole "think of the artists" stuff is propaganda invented to create support for copyright from artists and "average" people.

    Before copyright, artists considered it a complement that their work was replayed and enjoyed by others.

    This, of course, doesn't make the hoarding of our cultural works and the impingement on free expression right, but I just wanted to point out that it was never meant to protect artists, only publishers.

  13. Re:Maybes its a good time for them to get on iTune by Late+Adopter · · Score: 5, Informative

    No matter who sings it, or performs it, or records it, or sells it, or even hums it this music belongs to EMI because they own the very idea of it.

    That's not entirely true. US Copyright law carves out some "compulsory licensing" exceptions that copyright holders are obligated to accept particular amounts of payment on and cannot deny permission. Web radio, for example. Mechanical reproduction for another (cover bands, etc). Which I believe may have been the exception this guy was going for, by trying to ride the fine line of what constitutes a new recording of the work. Even the makers of Guitar Hero did this (albeit in a much more legal way, by actually playing and rerecording the songs), and resulted with what sounded to the amateur as identical to the originals.

    So this guy's idea wasn't necessarily *crazy*, just too close to literal duplication for this judge's taste (seems even the legal system applies some common sense now and then).