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Cable Exec Suggests Changing Consumer Behavior, Not Business Model

Techdirt has pointed out yet another cable exec that just doesn't quite get it. Comcast's COO, Steve Burke, recently urged the TV industry to find ways to "get consumers to change" rather than figure out better methods to cater to demand. "'An entire generation is growing up, if we don't figure out how to change that behavior so it respects copyright and subscription revenue on the part of distributors, we're going to wake up and see cord cutting.' How many consumers, in any market, are focused on 'respecting' vendors' revenue streams? How, exactly, does he propose to effect this sea change? And why not just develop products that consumers will willingly pay for, rather than trying to change consumer behavior in such a fundamental way?"

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  1. dinero by digitalsushi · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If I was making 2.2 million dollars a year salary I would probably say exactly what my bosses wanted to hear, too.

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  2. WE must change? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm sorry it is your business model that needs to change, not US.
    There were many fine works when copyright didn't even exist; hell, if copyright existed, we wouldn't have had Shakespeare's.
    Well, if they expect to live off the same franchises over and over in perpetuity, and not really work, I can see where their problem is.
    After all, it's all men in suits who would kill themselves just for money.

    1. Re:WE must change? by swanzilla · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Inadvertently correct...

      There were many fine works when copyright didn't even exist; hell, if copyright existed, we wouldn't have had Shakespeare's.

      We would have had Bacon's.

  3. It's both by Knara · · Score: 4, Insightful

    On one hand, yes, media companies (and indies, etc) should develop things that people are willing to pay for, instead of putting out remakes and rehashes on a regular basis (i.e. Fark's "In yet another sign that Hollywood has truly run out of new ideas...")

    On the other hand, there's no real ethical or legal excuse for pirating something, simply because you don't like the price of it. If you don't like the quality of the offering at the price it is offered, then don't buy it. It's quite simple.

    I now expect 4 dozen posts, making car analogies, expounding on the "false" argument of lost sales, and pointing out that I'm likely an astroturfing RIAA/MPAA shill.

    Have fun!

  4. Re:Just release TV shows for free by Kethinov · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Just release TV shows for free

    And make your money on touring.

    Hardy har, so funny. Or maybe instead they could make their money the way broadcast television has successfully done so for longer than most of us have been alive? Hint: advertising does actually work. Then just offer a subscription service to folks who don't want to see ads. Easy as pie. Shame the cable companies are too busy double dipping (subscription AND ads) to realize consumers hate it.

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  5. Entitlement by sqrt(2) · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The sense of entitlement is sickening. No business has a right to make profit, and I certainly don't have to "recpect" their revenue stream. This generation grew up wanting certain things, the dinosaurs in the content industries refused to adapt and now people are used to getting music, movies, and games they want for free. There are now millions of people who will go their entire lives without purchasing much content, and they were created by the greed and incompetence of the RIAA/MPAA and friends.

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    1. Re:Entitlement by AcidPenguin9873 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Entitlement goes both ways. The entire generation you speak of feels entitled to enjoy free content because its *distribution cost* and *replication cost* is $0. The creation cost for the content has always been, and will always be, non-zero, but it was always amortized into the distribution cost. Distribution via broadcasting always brought in advertising revenue, which covered all the costs. Distribution via BitTorrent brings in $0 in revenue and covers no costs. [1]

      This generation grew up wanting certain things, the dinosaurs in the content industries refused to adapt and now people are used to getting music, movies, and games they want for free.

      I disagree. There is iTunes/Amazon for music, Hulu for TV (*even* if they go to a subscription model), Netflix on demand for movies. I would say lots of good content is now available on-demand, via the Internet, pretty easy to get to. The business models weren't going to change in the one year that Napster came out. It's taken 10 years. But it has happened. The only thing that hasn't happened is content creators giving away stuff for $0, and if these creators are going to stay in business, I don't see how that's ever going to happen.

      Look, everyone here can make up plenty of reasons for why they deserve free content, but in a capitalist economy I have yet to hear a single good one. "Live performance" isn't good enough. Many TV shows that I enjoy can't be live. Software developers should *not* have to go on speaking tours to make money, like that ridiculous study out of Harvard said they should. I do not want to go to a book reading.

      [1] As an aside, I fully support the notion that *distributors* should get much less of the money. They are just a pipe, a utility for the content creators to sell their content. No one on Slashdot ever wants to make the distinction between distributors, who are invariably big media conglomerates that are easy to hate, and content creators, who might be a team of talented writers and actors and filmmakers that actually produce enjoyable stuff.

  6. Re:Nothing new by bigjarom · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Advertising yes, marketing no. Good marketing (including market research) allows a company to realize that the customer doesn't care about the specific product they sell, but rather about the benefit that it provides. Cable companies provide entertainment. Customers don't care how they get that entertainment. The cable exec from the article doesn't understand this. Classic example is Xerox shifting from photocopy machines to 'Document Management.'

  7. as a comcast customer... by MickyTheIdiot · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ... I say maybe I'll start to worry about what is fair to you a little bit when you start to worry about the level of service given to ME.

    The corporations of the U.S. are not monarchy (yet) so it's not our job to make sure you live high on the hog. Maybe if you treated me like a customer I would feel some loyalty.

  8. Re:Might I be the first by jpmorgan · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Absolutely. They missed the boat by 5-10 years. Had they started offering convenient digital services instead of stubbornly trying to protect their existing, entrenched businesses, they probably could have transitioned people into a new business model back when everybody was still used to paying through the nose for content. But no, that would require work, and vision, and why would you do that when you're making money hand over fist and the good times will never end?

    So yeah, just another industry that failed to adapt to change when they had the opportunity. Well, you missed it buddy.

  9. Perspective by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And why not just develop products that consumers will willingly pay for, rather than trying to change consumer behavior in such a fundamental way?"

    Because he feels the same way you do. You don't seem at all eager to adapt your behavior to the terms on which products are being marketed. You instead want to force the providers to change.

    So, you don't want to change, you just want to do things your way and force others to change. The provider also doesn't want to change. They want to do things their way and force you to change.

    Both parties want to give little and receive much. Consumers want to pay little and get lots of high quality content. Providers want to expend few resources in content provision and receive lots of money.

    I'd say the two groups are more alike than different. One just has more members than the other.

    1. Re:Perspective by iamacat · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Oh, consumers are willing to change all right. We are willing to stop consuming - legally or otherwise - expensive music and movies ridden with restrictions that do not work for our lifestyles. I saw like 2 movies in the theater in the two years after our first child was born and, now that the "prove that we still can" feeling is out of the way, were are not going again for at least another 3 years. Had they offered the movies on our home TV, we would have payed and watched. But we are not going to buy a new, enhanced DRM TV just to have a privilege of paying more money for the movies. Similarly, I bought a few DVDs for my daughter, but they show 15 minutes worth of unskippable, not age appropriate ads and then get stuck on the menu rather than automatically playing the content. I think I will just teach her to play with other toys or watch free cartoons from broadcast TV rather then going through the hassle of trying to burn a fixed copy with complicated tools or buying expensive hardware to stream H264. I can buy some nice bikes and dolls for the same money.

      If producers are similarly ready to stop producing and go out of business, we are truly more a like and different. I can save my money for family trips to Hawaii and they can ask me "do you want fries with that". It's funny how people who are losing sales fail to consider the simplest explanation rather than assuming that the majority of society is composed of malicious criminals.

    2. Re:Perspective by camperdave · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Perhaps you're forgetting the fundamental law of free markets: The customer is always right. If the bulk of customers want X and you offer Y, then don't be surprised when some other vendor comes along offering X and winds up with all the customers. As the vendor, you either offer what the customer wants, at the price they want it, or you go out of business.

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    3. Re:Perspective by whoever57 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Because he feels the same way you do. You don't seem at all eager to adapt your behavior to the terms on which products are being marketed. You instead want to force the providers to change.

      Yes, I do expect the providers to change.

      I, and other customers have something Comcast needs: subscription revenue. In order to obtain that revenue Comcast must provide something of value to me. If Comcast wants me to change my behavior, it has to provide a compelling reason for the change. Comcast must provide some benefit to me to induce my change of behavior.

      This exec shows no inclination of providing any benefit in return for any change of behavior, so why should I (and millions of other customers) change our behavior?

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    4. Re:Perspective by Princeofcups · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Perhaps you're forgetting the fundamental law of free markets: The customer is always right. If the bulk of customers want X and you offer Y, then don't be surprised when some other vendor comes along offering X and winds up with all the customers. As the vendor, you either offer what the customer wants, at the price they want it, or you go out of business.

      Unless you are a monopoly. Unless you get the laws changed in your favor. Unless you use strong arm tactics to buy out your competition or put them out of business. Unless you steal all your competition's employees. Unless your marketing is so strong the consumer cannot make an educated decision. Unless you undercut all other stores until you are the only one left. Etc. Etc.

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    5. Re:Perspective by iamacat · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Like I am going to spend $200+ on a Blu Ray player for my 2 year old daughter's $240 TV with a built in DVD player, much less for each room where we might need an hour of diversion. Even then, who is to say that they will release "Dora the Explorer" on Blu Ray, for a reasonable price, and without ads for PG13 movies?

      I just wish they made a few DVDs with 6 episodes each that automatically start and play in infinite loop as soon as inserted. I already have episodes from iTunes, but these would require an $220 Apple TV in every room and the damn thing loses network connection and thus triggers tamper tantrums every time microwave is started. Bottom line, someone hates making money and makes the simplest thing overwhelmingly complicated, annoying and expensive. The cartoons already play free on Nickelodeon. Just sell watermarked videos for $2/each and get done with it.

    6. Re:Perspective by Jason+Levine · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I think you missed the memo. The new fundamental law of free markets is: If the bulk of customers want X and you offer Y, then you lobby the government to make X illegal and raise the price of Y. Then you complain to your bought and paid for government officials that Y is still not selling and you need more power to force consumers to buy Y and raise the penalties on purchasing, owning, or even thinking about X. After all, customers' refusal to buy Y clearly indicates that they are all buying X illegally and the only reason for a customer's existence is to funnel money into your pockets.

      (The sad thing is, this could be modded as Funny or Insightful and either would be true.)

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    7. Re:Perspective by iamacat · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yes you can suggest that I stop eating meals, cleaning the house or spending time with my wife or attending after hours conference calls with offshore coworkers. However I am more likely to listen to - and financially support - someone who gives me realistic options for when diversions are necessary. Increasingly, it's looking like "suggestion" from entertainment industry are about as helpful as yours is.

    8. Re:Perspective by LWATCDR · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yes you do. If you buy a plane ticket but don't like the flight do you not get to pay? Really people that try before you buy line is just silly. If you think you should get to try before you buy then ONLY use products that offer it. You do not have the right to force a content provider to do what you want by any other means than not consuming their content and then not paying for it.
      To use their content and not paying for it is piracy.
      Dude READ THE REVIEWS!

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    9. Re:Perspective by iamacat · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I guess you are either too young to realize or too old to remember that being a decent parent means staying profitably employed, cooking meals, cleaning the house and keeping one's marriage viable. None of these activities, and especially not the last one, are compatible with an undistracted 2-year-old.

      Now go get off my lawn.

    10. Re:Perspective by commodore64_love · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Actually America has long been the nation of volunteerism. Americans donate more money than any other nation (per capita). It's only the corporations that are being greedy self-centered tyrants (which makes sense since megacorps are not people & don't have souls or morals).

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  10. Re:I'm no financial wizard, but... by BobMcD · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Comcast's COO should be focused on giving people what they want at a price that will make money for Comcast.

    And for all we know, this is exactly how he intends to go about getting those behavioral changes he is advocating. Though, I suspect he'd advocate instilling some sense of value in these customers first.

    If people want downloadable media and the existing corporations refuse to provide it legitimately, it is clear that people will simply take it illegitimately.

    That is clear, you're correct. What is unclear is whether there is a middle ground. It is entirely possible that even with penny DVD's people will still take it illegitimately. It doesn't take a huge imagination to see where that would wind up leading.

    If instead the large content providers had simply created distribution mechanisms where digital media could be obtained easily at a reasonable price with reasonable usage terms then people would have had much less incentive to search out pirated media.

    Again, absolutely true. There would be less incentive. Whether 1% or 100% less, is unclear.

    I for one don't find fault in the content providers for having their own point of view, even when it doesn't match my own.

  11. Re:Just release TV shows for free by armyofone · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "I fail to see how the cable companies are double dipping but this seems to be a very common misconception around here."

    Sigh. I'm old enough to remember when cable TV was first rolled out. There were NO commercials. It was touted as a subscription-based alternative to over-the-air, advertising-supported programming.

    Didn't take too long for greed to take over. Now, the only non-commercial channels are the premium ones, like HBO, Showtime, etc. - and they're all busy advertising themselves between shows.

    I see the same thing eventually happening to satellite radio. The siren-song of advertising dollars is just too strong to resist.

    My favorite button on the remote control is 'mute'.

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  12. Re: say exactly what my bosses wanted to hear by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The arrogance of the business community is far worse. How can anyone honestly believe someones skills could be worth 2.2 million per year? Are his skills really that rare? Or maybe it's because big business leadership is an exclusive club where friends reward friends with huge sums of money?

  13. Re: say exactly what my bosses wanted to hear by jebrew · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...but it is time that slashdotters understand that running a business into the ground by failing to adapt is tough.

    FTFY

  14. Re: say exactly what my bosses wanted to hear by PitaBred · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That's why you go to Harvard or Princeton or Yale. It's not for the education. It's for the contacts.