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Easing the Job of Family Tech Support?

DarkDevil writes "Ever since I was introduced to computers at a very young age, I've been the resident tech support for a household of 7 users. I've been in a cycle for the last ~8 years where something happens to my parents' computer, I spend a week or two trying to non-destructively fix the problem (and try to explain to the users what caused it and how to avoid it), and then if it's not easily fixed I'll reformat and start from scratch. Most often, the level of infection warrants a reformat, which usually ends up taking even more time to get the computer back to how my parents know how to use it. 4-8 months later, it happens again. Recently, I found ~380 instances of malware and 6 viruses. I only realized something was wrong with their computer after it slowed down the entire network whenever anyone used it. My question for Slashdot is: are there any resources out there that explain computer viruses, malware, adware, and general safe computer practices to non-technical people in an easy-to-digest format? The security flaws in my house are 9, 26, and ~50 years old, with no technical background aside from surfing the internet. Something in video format would be ideal as they are perfectly happy with our current arrangement and so it'll be hard to get them reading pages and pages of technical papers."

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  1. here's where we get to hear someone spew by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    get them all macs

    1. Re:here's where we get to hear someone spew by ColoBikerDude · · Score: 5, Insightful

      That's what I did, and have been stress free for years. :)

    2. Re:here's where we get to hear someone spew by coopaq · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Same here. Please mod parent up. Its the damn truth!

      Unsure what all the hating of Apple hardware is on /. lately.
      Solid Unix based OS that your parents would never know about. Google developers use them.
      It's actually not about being hip. It's about getting work done.

    3. Re:here's where we get to hear someone spew by InlawBiker · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I got my wife a Mac and the tech support nearly stopped. The biggest benefit has been lack of viruses. Otherwise she didn't care one way or another. For the rest of my family and friends, I just help them. Sometimes it takes me a while to help them, but I fit them in eventually. Why wouldn't I? If I need help fixing my car, borrowing a tool or watching my kids I have people to call. It all comes around.

  2. Install Ubuntu by HalifaxRage · · Score: 5, Insightful

    > no technical background aside from surfing the internet Sounds like a perfect audience for an OS with fewer security flaws.

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    1. Re:Install Ubuntu by Corporate+Troll · · Score: 5, Insightful

      ... and if it has to be Windows for some strange reason. Give them Limited User accounts. You'll be the sole Admin (and you won't use it yourself... just User for day to day tasks) and because of that you'll have to approve or disapprove all software that has to be installed.

      I have this modus operandi with my family and it works very well. Technically, you have to see a family as a small business operation where you are the IT guy.

  3. Related question by MyLongNickName · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I keep sticking a knife into my eye every three months. Can anyone provide detail instructions on how I can do this without causing so much pain?

    Sometimes giving an answer to the asked question isn't appropriate. Sometimes you have to tell the asker that they are looking at it all wrong.

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  4. Correct User Access by jeffy210 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I've found the best thing is to treat them like a corporation. Make sure their accounts are only user level, and either hold on to the Administrator password or make sure they know the real reason to use it. Done that with a few family friends I do work for and the amount of trouble i've had has dropped drastically.

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  5. The butterfly Parable by Martin+Spamer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    An insight into Mentoring & coaching

    One day a man finds a cocoon for a butterfly with a small opening, he sits and watches the butterfly for several hours as it struggled to force its body through the little hole. Then it seemed to stop making any progress. It appeared stuck.

    The man decided to help the butterfly and with a pair of scissors he cut open the cocoon. The butterfly emerges easily, but something was strange. The butterfly had a swollen body and shrivelled wings. The man watched the butterfly expecting it to take on its correct proportions. But nothing changed.

    The butterfly stayed the same. It was never able to fly. In his kindness and haste the man did not realise that the butterfly's struggle to get through the small opening of the cocoon is nature's way of forcing fluid from the body of the butterfly into its wings so that it would be ready for flight.

    Like the sapling which grows strong from being buffeted by the wind, in life we all need to struggle sometimes to make us strong.

    When we coach others it is helpful to recognize when people need to do things for themselves.

  6. Only every 8 months? Lucky. by GreatDrok · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I have systematically made all my family members get Macs over the years and this has reduced requirements for my support services to near to nothing. I have tried a few on Linux and that helped but they tended to be the most technically literate. Others who insisted that Windows was all they could use got XP with non-administrator accounts and I would remote desktop in as needed. That worked pretty well but not as well as a Mac and that person (my wife's 92 year old grandmother) is about to get a Mac mini.

    I can't understand why you have people who only want to do basic tasks with anything other than an non-admin account? Even on a Mac I reserve the admin rights for myself.

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  7. You can't teach people who don't want to learn by celest · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In my experience, it is not an issue of easy-to-digest material, and explanations that they understand. It's a hard mental block. I've been in the same cycle for 10+ years, and my parents have said, flat out, they they "just can't learn". I've tried written, step-by-step instructions; I've tried demonstrating; I've tried tutorials. It's not the information or how it is presented. It's a mental block about learning new things.

    "Why can't it just work?", and the fact that it doesn't is put on my shoulders as the "tech" generation. And that's that.

    What really gets me angry is that they are helpless to do anything in their daily lives without their computer, and blame me for that fact (Cause *I* created all malware and put it on their computer, clearly), while simultaneously ridiculing my choice of career as worthless, because "technology is not important". The irony is lost on them. Completely.

    The war you are facing is a cultural one, not a technical, or information/communication one. It's one better asked to a psychologist than Slashdot. Best of luck.

    1. Re:You can't teach people who don't want to learn by Hatta · · Score: 5, Insightful

      parents have said, flat out, they they "just can't learn".

      Proper response: If you can't learn, I can't help. Sorry.

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  8. Get a Mac by Jaysyn · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I got my mom a iMac 5 years ago & have maybe spend a total of 7 hours working on it since then. Two of those were upgrading the RAM & two more were upgrading OSX.

    I had never even touched OSX until we opened that iMac up. I had no problems setting it up & she has had no problems using or maintaining it.

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  9. The 9-year-old is the key by BenEnglishAtHome · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Sounds like it's time to transition your support job to the next generation.

  10. Re:MS SteadyState by Penguinisto · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You know? It's pretty damned sad that OS stability and security has to be offered as a separate frickin' package to the OS itself.

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  11. Re:Give Up by Chapter80 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    My usual approach is in the form of an analogy.

    "You're driving down the road, and you stop at a traffic light. A man, dressed like a mechanic, approaches your car and says 'I think your car has a problem. Please pop the hood, and let me do a free analysis." Do you let him?"

    "You get a package in the mail. You don't recognize the return address. You open it, and inside is a device with a note that says 'want a good laugh? press this button'. Do you press it?"

    "A stranger walks up to you on the bus, and says 'My name is Rev. Kwame. I want a reliable person who could assist us
    to transfer the sum of Twenty Million Five Hundred Thousand United States Dollars ( $20,500,000 ) into his / her account.This fund resulted by way
    of gratification from a contract awarded by us under the budget allocation to my Ministry and this bill has been approved for payment by
    the concerned Ministries.' Do you give them your bank account number?"

    Etc.

  12. Re:MS SteadyState by commodore64_love · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "You're the shithead that broke it. You fix it, or you pay Best Buy to fix it, or you pay me to fix it. Those are your choices."

    As you can tell, after ten years of this, I'm fed up with trying to support my idiot family.
    I'm tired of giving-up my weekends doing what amounts to my fulltime job - for free.

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  13. Re:MS SteadyState by Sylver+Dragon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And if it was bundled MS would end up being sued by Faronics for abusing their monopoly position, the EU would sanction MS until they removed it, and everyone would complain about how evil MS is for trying to take over another sector of the computer business.

    Of the two options, I like the unbundled, doesn't bloat my OS further, option.

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  14. Re:Give Up by value_added · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Reasonable and useful analogies. However ...

    "You're driving down the road, and you stop at a traffic light. A man, dressed like a mechanic, approaches your car and says 'I think your car has a problem. Please pop the hood, and let me do a free analysis." Do you let him?"

    In a GUI centric world, the average user doesn't understand the source or meaning of error messages, warnings, or confirmation dialogs. They're just another window that pops up on what they believe to be an "appliance". It isn't the window they're interested in, and not knowing what to do with it, they just want it to go away.

    "You get a package in the mail. You don't recognize the return address. You open it, and inside is a device with a note that says 'want a good laugh? press this button'. Do you press it?"

    A package in the mail has all it's shipping information clearly printed on the outside. With email, the information is in the headers, most all of which are routinely hidden (what is visible is often useless or suspect). The average user has no idea headers exist, and will reject any prodding that they learn how to read them, replying that they clutter up their screen (like viewing file extensions).

    Moreover, they certainly don't want to know about MIME structures. Attachments? If it's like a package in the mail, how to know what it is if you don't open it?

    "A stranger walks up to you on the bus, and says 'My name is Rev. Kwame. I want a reliable person who could assist us to transfer the sum of ... Do you give them your bank account number?"

    An example that's more "real world" to the average user. Regrettably, in the real world, people (especially older folks) do fall prey to scams or otherwise obvious fraud.