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Recovering the Slums of the Internet?

turtleshadow writes "Brian Krebs of the Security Fix Blog analyzes the McColo Spamming one year later and asks an interesting question: 'How does one renovate and recoup the lost trust to the slums of the Internet and reclaim back all the domains and IPs that have been blacklisted?' Indeed, the economic benefits abound when a huge swath of illegal and annoying activity ceases — but given the basic design of the Internet, what happens over the long run to IP space and DNS when hosting companies come and go and vary in their trustworthiness? So too, now Geocities is dead [as a business], but does that still live in your filter list? It still appears in OpenDNS under several policy categories. How, in a few years, will I tell if some Hosting/Colo sold me Whitechapel Road/Ventura Avenue for Mayfair/Boardwalk prices, and no one is going to accept my mail from a former slum? When do you, if ever, roll back the blacklists and filters for 'dead' threats and spammers?"

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  1. Easy solution: by eln · · Score: 3, Informative

    Stop relying on blacklists as your primarily (or only!) filtering mechanism. There are far more sophisticated filtering solutions out there these days. Filtering based solely on blacklists is antiquated, ineffective, and vulnerable to massive issues with false positives. If you only use blacklisting as a very small part of your overall filter scoring, you won't have problems when the IPs in question get turned over to non-spammers. Sure, they'll still end up with a non-zero "spam" score, but not a high enough one to be blocked.

    And, of course, you should regularly be looking at your entire setup, including filtering, on a regular basis to make sure the solution you have is still the best one for your situation. Technology, and the Internet, changes too rapidly to take a "set and forget" attitude toward anything, especially filtering.

  2. Re:What slums? by Tubal-Cain · · Score: 3, Informative

    Yes, but if someone tries to create a new Biosphere and call the project "GeoCity", a website about the project will find itself needlessly blocked by filter rules set years ago and were never removed.

  3. Re:who's on first? by secolactico · · Score: 5, Informative

    nslookup -q=ptr 69.69.69.69.in-addr.arpa

    Non-authoritative answer:
    69.69.69.69.in-addr.arpa name = the-coolest-ip-on-the-net.com

    Well, I'll be... I honestly didn't expect that. Duh...

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