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Genentech Puts Words In the Mouths of Congress Members

theodp writes "In the official record of the historic House debate on overhauling health care, the speeches of many lawmakers echo with remarkable similarities. Often, that was no accident. Statements by more than a dozen lawmakers were ghostwritten by Washington lobbyists working for Genentech. E-mail obtained by the NY Times shows that lobbyists drafted one statement for Democrats and another for Republicans. Genentech, a subsidiary of Swiss drug giant Roche, estimates that 42 House members picked up some of its talking points — 22 Republicans and 20 Democrats, an unusual bipartisan coup for lobbyists. ... The statements were not intended to change the bill, which was not open for much amendment during the debate. They were meant to show bipartisan support for certain provisions, even though the vote on passage generally followed party lines. ... Asked about the Congressional statements, a lobbyist close to Genentech said: 'This happens all the time. There was nothing nefarious about it.'"

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  1. Re:Yay lobbyist-speak by phantomfive · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I used to get really upset about lobbyists, but I think the problem is really the general incompetence of our elected officials. They have trouble distinguishing between good information and bad information, and end up going with the most convenient information (although in their minds they will have some logic loop that proves to them that they chose the good information).

    The problem is a good portion of the US has trouble figuring out how to distinguish good information from bad information. Think of how many people pay $50 a bottle to drink acai juice thinking it will help them lose weight. Think how many people buy lottery tickets. These are people who are just out of touch with reality.

    Strangely it has nothing to do with education levels, either. You wouldn't believe how many educated people I talked to were certain that president Bush would call martial law and cancel the election before Obama could be voted in (thus becoming emperor). You may have been one of them. As crazy as that seems, the fact is, knowing how to distinguish good information from bad information is really hard and takes a lot of experience. You can't take the easy shortcut and only rely on peer-reviewed papers because a lot of reality hasn't been peer reviewed yet (and peer-review in no way shows that something is true).

    It is no surprise that a population that can't distinguish between reality and fantasy elects representatives that can't distinguish between reality and fantasy as well. The solution is to educate the populace, and it is improving: pay attention to the memes that get spread around; by now everyone on the internet knows that "correlation != causation" and many have a more nuanced understanding of that idea. Five years ago, that thought wasn't so widespread. Same with the "[Citation Needed]" trend: as annoying as it was, it spread the idea that citations are a good thing.

    If this trend continues, the problem will be self-correcting. Representatives will understand that lobbyists are biased and will go look for other sources of information. Unfortunately there is no other way to solve the problem: there is no amount of legislation that can fix it.

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  2. End the pretense by SuperKendall · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I think it's time we end the pretense these people are doing anything independently, and let them wear jackets with sponsor patches ala Nascar.

    I guess this is why congress and house members feel it's OK to vote for a 1900+ page bill they have not even read all of, nor allowed the public to read before a vote - why bother reading when your corporate sponsors have given you all the soundbytes you need?

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  3. Re:Puppets! by omb · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This is dumb meme, to run an honest country you need enforced standards that prevent legislative and executive corruption, a knowledgeable electorate helps, but public servants with their hand in the till still need to goto jail --- which means that you need an independent commission to investigate and prosecute that.

    Otherwise Zimbabwe here you come.

  4. Re:Puppets! by hey! · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Oh, Genentech was doing something morally wrong. Contributing to the delinquency of others is morally wrong. It's just not as bad as what their sock puppets are doing.

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  5. Yes We Can by merky1 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Remember the good ole days, when there was a charismatic candidate that promised a new Washington, one that represents the people and not littered with lobbyists.

    I guess GW really messed the country up...

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  6. Re:Puppets! by Narpak · · Score: 4, Interesting

    George Carlin: "Garbage in; garbage out. If you got selfish ignorant citizens you are going to get selfish ignorant leaders."

    Sadly there seems to be a lot of that going around in most democracies.

  7. Re:Puppets! by Uberbah · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Which is exactly why the government should be as small and weak as possible.

    Ah, so you're enjoying your annihilated retirement fund, munching on your Mad Cow burger while your kids play with with their lead-painted toys in your asbestos lined trailer after you had to flee New Orleans on foot in 2005. And you'd get treatment for that nagging leukemia of yours, but your health insurance company denies coverage because you didn't mention that you once had acne, so their CEO can be worth three quarters of a billion dollars. So you feel like packing up the kids and going to one of those socialisicky countries that have actual health care, but your plane crashes because the exhausted pilot was working a second job to stay off food stamps and the air traffic controller had all of two hours of sleep between shifts.

    The genius of small government and the free market at work....