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First Malicious iPhone Worm In the Wild

An anonymous reader writes "After the ikee worm that displayed a picture of Rick Astley on jailbroken iPhones, the first malicious iPhone worm (Google translation; original, in Dutch) has now been discovered in the wild. Internet provider XS4ALL in the Netherlands encountered several of such devices (link in Dutch) on the wireless networks of their customers and put out a warning. After obtaining a copy of the malware it was discovered that the jailbroken phones, which are exploited through openSSH with a default password, scan IP ranges of mobile internet providers for other vulnerable iPhones, phone home to a C&C botnet server, are able to update themselves with additional malware and have the ability to dump the SMS database as well. Owners of a jailbroken iPhone with a default root password are advised to flash to the latest Apple firmware in order to ensure no malware is present."

135 comments

  1. As the saying goes. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    PEBKAC.

    1. Re:As the saying goes. by lorenlal · · Score: 1

      Well... yea. Although I might amend it to IEBKAC - Ignorance Exists Between Keyboard and Chair.

      I mean, they knew enough to jailbreak their iPhone, and installed SSH, and didn't set a proper root password... The best part is that they even got a wake up call in the form of the Astley worm... Speaking of which... I consider seeing Rick as an iPhone background fairly malicious, so I'll correct the summary.

      (j/k Rick, thank you for having a good sense of humor about all this. :D)

  2. In other news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Morons who don't know what the fuck they're doing still continue doing it.

    News at 11.

    1. Re:In other news by BrokenHalo · · Score: 1

      Sounds like the same exploit as the rickroll worm. But anyone running SSH with a default password deserves everything he'll get.

  3. hmmm. passwd by epilido · · Score: 4, Insightful

    how about changing the default password............

    1. Re:hmmm. passwd by Sir_Lewk · · Score: 1

      The purpose of suggesting that anyone with the default password reflash their iphones is that they might already be infected, making changing the password at this point pointless.

      Of course changing the default password is something that should always be done.

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    2. Re:hmmm. passwd by MeNeXT · · Score: 1

      It seems no password is needed if you try ssh root@IPHONEIP.

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  4. Excessive? by ickleberry · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Owners of a jailbroken iPhone with a default root password are advised to flash to the latest Apple firmware in order to ensure no malware is present.

    That seems a bit excessive when a simple one-time usage of the included "passwd" utility will suffice. Srsly though, jailbreaking utilities should be pestering users to change their password from the default because this is only scaring less-knowledgeable folk into thinking Jailbreak == viruses

    1. Re:Excessive? by maccodemonkey · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Unless you are already infected and you don't know it, then changing the password does nothing.

    2. Re:Excessive? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Owners of a jailbroken iPhone with a default root password are advised to flash to the latest Apple firmware in order to ensure that their phone is bricked and completely unusable

      Fixed the article

    3. Re:Excessive? by TJamieson · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Isn't it also interesting that the fix is to, basically, un-jailbreak as soon as possible. If I were more of a conspiracy theorist, I would think Apple might have an interest in showing just how "bad" jailbreaking can be. Apple: See, if you jailbreak, you'll get a special phone worm!

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    4. Re:Excessive? by pizzach · · Score: 1

      That seems a bit excessive when a simple one-time usage of the included "passwd" utility will suffice. Srsly though, jailbreaking utilities should be pestering users to change their password from the default because this is only scaring less-knowledgeable folk into thinking Jailbreak == viruses

      Honestly, if the people reading it don't realize it is obsessive, they probably shouldn't have jailbroke their phones in the first place. When you hack something on a public controlled network, you best not be mindless. This message hits exactly the people who should return to the standard firmware and nor more.

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    5. Re:Excessive? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      WORMS? IN MY APPLE?!?!?!?

      actually, that seems somehow fitting...

    6. Re:Excessive? by maccodemonkey · · Score: 1

      The problem is a lot of mainstream news sites have reported all the cool apps you can get by jailbreaking, and a lot of people have found jailbreaking as one way to pirate apps. Thus the clueless public was introduced to jailbreaking, and of course they install whatever random crap they find like kids in a candy store, such as an SSH server.

    7. Re:Excessive? by mysidia · · Score: 1

      If you don't bother reading the documentation and such, to ensure you use the "passwd" command as directed, then you have no business jailbreaking or using a jailbroken phone.

      Because you're going to screw up in some other way too. (Default password isn't the only mistake you can make)

      It gives Apple more ammo to use against jailbreakers, even justification for bricking them -- to protect Apple's good name against being tarnished by reports of "iPhone-based botnets".

      Part of the sales pitch of Apple software is that there's no risk of Malware or Worms anything like there is for Windows users.

      Microsoft would want you think there's nothing about Apple's OS that is more secure -- there's just no Malware problem, because hardly anybody uses their OS, and hackers aren't interested in it.

      By allowing jailbroken iPhones to continue to function, and worms to arise targetting jailbroken phones, more credibility is lent to the Anti-OSX / Anti-UNIX security argument (the position that UNIX / OS X / Linux/ etc, are no more secure than Windows in any way, or that Windows is just as more secure).

    8. Re:Excessive? by marcansoft · · Score: 1

      Wrong. The fix is to, basically, reinstall the OS. Jailbroken or not. Jailbreak != OpenSSH preinstalled. People claiming this hole is somehow the result of jailbreaks are either clueless or anti-jailbreak. Jailbreaking is the enabler, but the real problem are clueless users who install (or are instructed to install) OpenSSH and do not change the default passwords.

    9. Re:Excessive? by macslut · · Score: 1

      Actually the steps are: 1) Admit that you're an idiot for enabling SSH and not changing the default password. 2) Flash the firmware. 3) Re-Jailbreak. 4) Either don't enable SSH or do change the default password. 5) Remember that you're an idiot.

    10. Re:Excessive? by Sir_Lewk · · Score: 1

      No. If people don't realize that reflashing their iphones is the proper thing to do at this point then they are the ones that should not be jailbreaking their iphones. The purpose of the reflash is to ensure that the phone will no longer be infected, which it may or may not have been before hand. Changing the password after the fact will not magically un-infect them.

      Honestly though, if people didn't change the default password to begin with then they really should not be jailbreaking their iphones.

      Oh, and the word you are looking for is "excessive", not "obsessive". Your parent (whom you quoted) got it right.

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    11. Re:Excessive? by CharlyFoxtrot · · Score: 1

      If you're jailbreaking next time you upgrade the issue will solve itself since you flash a new image on the phone. But my guess is these are clueless people who had their phone unlocked and jailbroken by a friend back in the (1.3) days when openssh was automatically installed when jailbreaking and the included passwd utility was broken so people couldn't change the password.

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    12. Re:Excessive? by ickleberry · · Score: 3, Insightful

      No reason ordinary folk shouldn't be allowed to enjoy the benefits of an un-crippled, unrestricted phone. Jailbreaking utilities really should prompt the user for a new root password before they can continue, so there would be no point in even writing these worms.
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    13. Re:Excessive? by pizzach · · Score: 2, Interesting

      No reason ordinary folk shouldn't be allowed to enjoy the benefits of an un-crippled, unrestricted phone.

      It's these same people who don't care if their Windows machine is full of viruses from opening their firewall since it was "inconvenient." With these people, a botnet of iPhones is just a matter of time.

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    14. Re:Excessive? by TJamieson · · Score: 1

      Exactly - the clueless user is the target here. The technical users already know why they should jailbreak, and how to do it safely. Apple isn't worried about them because that crowd will always exist. However, they could leverage these worms to urge non-techies away from even thinking about jailbreaking. For instance, in the eyes of the average user, they could make jailbreaking synonymous with worms. Everybody here on /. knows jailbreak != worms, but what about everyone who reads Google News?

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    15. Re:Excessive? by MeNeXT · · Score: 1

      try this ssh root@IPHONEIP does not matter if you change the password.

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    16. Re:Excessive? by Rexdude · · Score: 4, Insightful

      No reason ordinary folk shouldn't be allowed to enjoy the benefits of an un-crippled, unrestricted phone.

      If having an unrestricted device is so important to them, why buy an iPhone at all ?
      Every other smartphone lets you use the network provider you want, or install the apps you want from anywhere.

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    17. Re:Excessive? by Serious+Callers+Only · · Score: 1

      The problem is a lot of mainstream news sites have reported all the cool apps you can get by jailbreaking, and a lot of people have found jailbreaking as one way to pirate apps.

      Bear in mind that those pirate apps could easily contain malicious code - some probably already do. People don't need a virus or default SSH password to access your phone if you are willing to run arbitrary binaries from untrustworthy websites. The only advantage for this one is it can easily spread between phones if they haven't been secured.

      The SSH server is required for installing apps - it's not optional, but people should be changing the password.

      However if I were writing a virus for iPhones, I'd concentrate on adding subtle malicious code to a popular game, then release it in the wild as a free download. Greed wins out over caution every time.

    18. Re:Excessive? by DigitalCrackPipe · · Score: 1

      Perhaps this is a way to scare off the non-technical folks from jailbreaking. I'm not sure if that not-so-accurate advice is a big problem. Maybe those who jailbreak should understand what they're doing, or avoid doing it. Hacked technology is all kinds of fun until the idiot masses get to it. For instance, nobody cared about MP3s until napster let every idiot with a computer pirate mass amounts of music. Then suddenly MP3 was a bad word and we have DRM shoved so far up our butts that our teeth hurt.

  5. There's an app for that! by zach_the_lizard · · Score: 4, Funny

    Finally! Now I can tell my friends that my iPhone can run all the stuff my desktop can!

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  6. In other news, idiot users get hacked by Azureflare · · Score: 3, Informative
    Just to clarify:

    Wederom zijn het alleen gebruikers van een gejailbreakte iPhone of iPod Touch die risico lopen.

    Translation: Again are the only users of an iPhone or iPod Touch gejailbreakte at risk.

    In summary, if you jailbreak your phone, install apps to make your phone a server, and don't take steps to secure it, you are an idiot and deserve whatever happens.

    1. Re:In other news, idiot users get hacked by Dahamma · · Score: 1

      Well... this would be "informative" if he actually fixed the translation to be readable, ie "As usual, only the users of a jailbroken iPhone or iPod touch are at risk." If the mis-translation was actually interesting, you could mod it funny, I guess...

      Now to be fair, I do agree 100% with the conclusion and would gladly mod "insightful" - calling something a "worm" when the attack vector is "tries default password on idiotic 'secure shell' software that even allows one" is a real stretch. IMO this is more a "works as designed" - install a shell that anyone can log into, and anyone will...

  7. Why a default password? by harmonise · · Score: 4, Insightful

    why is SSH being installed with a default password left in place? Talk about asking for trouble.

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    1. Re:Why a default password? by Fahrvergnuugen · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Because a lot of people who use these jailbreak tools have no idea what they are doing.

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    2. Re:Why a default password? by E+IS+mC(Square) · · Score: 1

      But they definitely know WHY they had to do it.

    3. Re:Why a default password? by Suzuran · · Score: 2, Informative

      Jailbreaking DOES NOT install ssh by default. You have to install openssh yourself after jailbreaking.

    4. Re:Why a default password? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They got exactly what they wanted -- an open phone.

  8. Re:ROFL by nurb432 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Odd, the story called it a WORM.. which it is.

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  9. Oh, Dutch... by muncadunc · · Score: 1, Interesting

    gejailbreakte
    I love it.

    So the only phones at risk are the jailbroken (jailbreaked?) ones?
    You'd think the thing to do would be to incorporate a password-changing tool into the jailbreaking tools somehow, so users have to select something other than the default one.

    1. Re:Oh, Dutch... by theArtificial · · Score: 1

      Yes, only the jailbroken ones are affected. You're supporting a moot point. The people who are affected aren't following the instructions. You are told to change your password.

      If you like loan words such as 'gejailbreakte' there is German 'geownt' for owned.

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    2. Re:Oh, Dutch... by dingen · · Score: 2, Insightful

      gejailbreakte
      I love it.

      Sadly, the language is full of these sort of things nowadays... give it another decade and Dutch will be fully understandable for people who speak English.

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    3. Re:Oh, Dutch... by muncadunc · · Score: 0

      I'm thinking more something like, say, if you install Cydia then you have to run the password utility before it will allow you to download packages.

  10. Not the first by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

    I have to take exception to the claim this is the FIRST malicious iPhone worm. After all, ikee inflicted Rick Astley on people - that probably gave folks nightmares.

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  11. Smoking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think this is really the affect of smoking and using the iphone at the same time. Apple should have these people arrested. And sent to Alcatraz, which Steve Jobs recently bought, btw.

  12. Confusing summary by Burpmaster · · Score: 1

    It implies rickrolling isn't malicious.

  13. Wait a second? by cluge · · Score: 3, Interesting
    >Owners of a jailbroken iPhone with a default root password are advised to flash
    >to the latest Apple firmware in order to ensure no malware is present."

    If they flash to the latest apple firmware, will they be able to

    • 1. Use the network of their choice
    • 2. Run non apple allowed apps (skype)
    • 3. Play their music without DRM

    Most importantly - will they be able to jailbreak the device after the update?

    I see a future where Apple, the RIAA, and others might wish to write worms to help prevent people from hacking their devices or brick devices that have been "hacked".

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    1. Re:Wait a second? by maxume · · Score: 1

      Yeah, so don't do business with companies that embrace the control approach, problem solved.

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    2. Re:Wait a second? by CrackedButter · · Score: 4, Informative

      I can already do number 3 without jailbreaking my phone.

    3. Re:Wait a second? by Imrik · · Score: 0, Troll

      I see a future where Apple, the RIAA, and others might wish to write worms to help prevent people from hacking their devices or brick devices that have been "hacked".

      Are you entirely certain that future hasn't already arrived?

    4. Re:Wait a second? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes the current firmware can be jail broken and there fore the rest of your questions are answered:

      Update -> Jailbreak -> Change password -> Go about your normal routine.

    5. Re:Wait a second? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      On #3 - if you'd take your mouth off Linus Torvald's dick long enough to actually look around, you'd notice that iTunes has eliminated DRM on all but a handful of tracks. Furthermore, douchington, every iPod EVER has been able to play MP3s.

    6. Re:Wait a second? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    7. Re:Wait a second? by jo_ham · · Score: 1

      I can do 2 and 3 right now on my un-jailbroken iPhone.

      I'm also quite happy with O2, although now the exclusivity has expired in the UK, I can switch to Orange if I really want.

    8. Re:Wait a second? by jim_v2000 · · Score: 1

      >I see a future where Apple, the RIAA, and others might wish to write worms

      So you're telling me that in the future, Apple could possibly have the strong desire to write a worm for iPhones? You're like the prophet of uncertainty.

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    9. Re:Wait a second? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apparently you've got a different definition of "playing music" than the rest of the sane people in the world. Do you get a lot of weird looks at dinner parties when you shit on the table and call it "having dinner"?

    10. Re:Wait a second? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How so? When you copy the music onto the iPhone, Apple automatically DRMs it.

      In order to play the music on the iPhone, you must (strangely enough) copy it onto it.

      Therefore, in order to play music on the iPhone, you must allow Apple to wrap it in DRM. That wasn't that hard to understand, was it?

    11. Re:Wait a second? by NiceGeek · · Score: 1

      iPhone can play mp3 files no matter where they are purchased from - no DRM, and in fact most of the music sold on the iTunes store is DRM free now.

      Skype has been available in the App Store for quite some time

    12. Re:Wait a second? by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1

      There's a difference between DRM and locking content to the phone. If the music file does not have DRM, the iPhone/iTunes does not add DRM to it. However the phone itself prevents users from using a iPhone to copy music using syncing. Users can copy music by using the iPhone as a portable storage device. Learn the difference.

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    13. Re:Wait a second? by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1

      No because it doesn't. No DRM is added. The iPhone merely prohibits users from using it as copying device directly. You can use it as a portable storage device and indirectly copy. People who jailbreak the phone will find the music files with no DRM in a folder.

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    14. Re:Wait a second? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, in other words, people who break the DRM will find the music without DRM.

      Wow.

      U R GENUS!

    15. Re:Wait a second? by DavidTC · · Score: 1

      Um, you're an idiot.

      You can, in fact, copy music files back off the iPhone all you want. There is no 'DRM' on them whatsoever. Or, rather, the iPhone doesn't put DRM on them...they either came with it, or they didn't.

      Now, you need a special program to put them on or off, you can't use the standard USB drive interface to do that. There are plenty of such programs, from the iTune program to third party software. (You, of course, can't play them if they started with DRM, but you can copy them off.)

      But 'non-standard interface' does not equal DRM.

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    16. Re:Wait a second? by CrackedButter · · Score: 1

      The original statement by the parent poster, was that I needed to jailbreak my phone in order to play non DRM music. You're saying I'm wrong because I can't come over to your house so you can COPY my music. Do you see a disconnection in the discussion here? Learn to read swim before diving in at the deep end.

    17. Re:Wait a second? by DavidTC · · Score: 1

      However the phone itself prevents users from using a iPhone to copy music using syncing.

      No it doesn't.

      iTunes stops the user from copying music using syncing, I think. (I don't even vaguely pretend to understand how iTunes dysfunctions.)

      However, any third party app that can put music on the iPhone has the technological ability to copy it back off.

      Whether or not that actually is an option in the program is up to the programmer, but any program that uses Apple's Mobile device support library can use it to get the file off.

      I just tested the program I use to put music on my iPhone, foobar 2000 w/foo_dop. It easily copied files back off using the foo_fileopts menu. (foo_fileopts is just a fb2k extension that just lets you move, copy, and delete files within foobar 2000.) Right there, on my desktop, I have an album I just copied off my iPhone using fb2k. It even let me rename them based on tags instead of the silly number plus three char names they had on the iPhone.

      That isn't even some special feature. fb2k, and any program with the Apple's Mobile device support library, reads mp3s on the iPod and iPhone like any other file. It can even play them from my iPhone! I suspect foo_fileopts has absolutely no 'support' for the iPhone, it just transparently treated files on it like any other file. 'Okay, here's the file, now I will write it over there.'

      Any third party program can easily just copy files, period. (And rename them to something intelligible using the tags, hopefully.) No only can you do it, you can do using Apple's own library, it's not some hack. Just don't use stupid-ass iTunes for it.

      Once you get the files off, you can, of course, put them in iTunes if you want.

      Of course, if they had DRM on them, they'll still have DRM on them, and won't actually play anywhere, no matter how you copy them around. (The iPhone itself, or even the library, might block copying files off the phone if they have DRM, I have no idea and no way to test it. But that's not what's under discussion here.)

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    18. Re:Wait a second? by DavidTC · · Score: 1

      Yes, but it only works on wifi.

      Unless you have a jailbroken phone, of course, then you can download the package that tricks your phone into always thinking it's on wifi.

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    19. Re:Wait a second? by CliffH · · Score: 1
      To answer your questions:

      1. Depending on where you are in the world, yes or no. In NZ, yes, you can use whatever network you wish

      2. I didn't know Skype wasn't allowed! I have Skype on my non-jailbroken phone. I picked it up on the App Store for free. To get to your point though, no, you cannot use the other app stores around which is a serious shame

      3. I play MP3s all the time. No DRM.
      If it is a 3G or a 3GS at firmware 3.1.2 then yes, you can jailbreak pretty damn easily. You can just as easily put it back in jail if you like.

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    20. Re:Wait a second? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      black rain

    21. Re:Wait a second? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But 'non-standard interface' does not equal DRM.

      It does if the non-standard interface was deliberately put there to restrict access.

      Manufacturers and their astroturfers love to claim that many roadblocks put in the way of digitally copying files is not DRM. They're lying. DRM is "Digital Rights Management". Any deliberate attempt at all to restrict digital copying is DRM. Some DRM being more effective than others is irrelevant.

    22. Re:Wait a second? by dotwhynot · · Score: 1

      There's a difference between DRM and locking content to the phone. .

      Is it, really? "locking content" doesn't ring a bell? DRM an be implemented in many ways, for different purposes, doesn't have to be built into the music files themselves if the system still controls what you can do with them.

    23. Re:Wait a second? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm also quite happy with O2, although now the exclusivity has expired in the UK, I can switch to Orange if I really want.

      No you can't (or at least, not without buying a new phone or jailbreaking the one you have). iPhones are locked to the network that sold them; you can't use them on another network, even if that network also carries the iPhone. The phone you bought from O2 is still locked to O2.

    24. Re:Wait a second? by khchung · · Score: 1

      I can do number 1 without jailbreaking my iPhone also (you can also buy one next time to travel to Hong Kong).

      For number 2, Skype is available in App Store, why do you have to jailbreak to run it?

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    25. Re:Wait a second? by DavidTC · · Score: 1

      Yes, the non-standard interface was 'deliberately put there to restrict access'...which is why the library provided by Apple to access the device, um...expressly provides functions for copying files off it.

      As opposed to, you know, it not providing those functions, which would at least require people to write their own library or hack something like 'read in the file using the library's file reading functions and write it out somewhere else'.

      Apple: Providing the worst DRM in existence. You can hack it about 30 seconds with their tools.

      Hell, as I mentioned elsewhere, you can hack it 'accidentally'. I use fb2k with foo_fileops, which allows you to copy files within fb2k, and foo_dop, which provides iPhone access by loading Apple's mobile device library, and apparently the mobile library provides enough 'file access' that foo_fileopts will just magically let you copy files off the iPhone without it even knowing they're on the iPhone or it having any iPhone support.

      It's apparently the shittiest non-working DRM in existence.

      No. A device having a non-standard interface does not make it DRM. A non-standard interface does not restrict what you can do with files on a device. Copy them on, copy them off, it works without any DRM at all. It just requires you to do it with a computer that supports that interface. Same as everything else.

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    26. Re:Wait a second? by Rexdude · · Score: 1

      I can do everything listed by the GP and then lots more, with my Nokia N82, without having to hack it or change the firmware.
      So can users of Sony Ericson, HTC, Samsung, Motorola..in short users of any smartphone other than the hallowed iPhone.

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    27. Re:Wait a second? by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1

      Except the accusation in this case was that DRM is added to the music. It is not. The files have no DRM added to them. Apple merely puts the music into a special folder that users do not have direct access if they use syncing. However if users use the iPhone as a portable storage device, they can access the music.

      Also the term DRM has a specific meaning. It does not mean any form of copy protection:

      The term generally doesn't refer to other forms of copy protection which can be circumvented without modifying the file or device, such as serial numbers or keyfiles.

      From what I can tell, users can access the music if use other programs to sync up.

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    28. Re:Wait a second? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can do number 1 on my iPhone. You see... in my country, phones have to be carrier neutral by law. My country believes in customer freedom and choice.... .... oddly, the country I live in is not the US.... but closer to China! (Hong Kong actually).

    29. Re:Wait a second? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, you truely are a clueless douchebag

    30. Re:Wait a second? by lexios · · Score: 1

      I've done a jailbreak and unlock after updating the firmware to 3.1.2 (the baseband was already at 05.11.07). How to change the default passwords is shown on: http://dailyapps.net/2009/11/hack-attack-secure-your-jailbroken-iphone/ for example. Note that the accounts mobile & root have by default the password alpine and thus you need to change both passwords. (Not every guide out there mentions the user mobile.) Updating the firmware on a brand new unlocked iPhone may actually lock it according to some reports, if you are against jailbreaking as a matter of princple you may want to wait a bit what the results are for a larger sample of users. As for who is to blame, I'd say it can be divided amongst: - The user he/she should have changed the default password. - The installer/packager of the iPhone OpenSSH app for not forcing the user to change the default password. - Apple for trying to control too hard what kind of software is used on the phone and not making features available the users actually want. (Folders for related apps for example.)

  14. Abstraction by gmuslera · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You just do this and that happens. As in "you run this and your phone gets even more awesome" or "you'll shut down your firewall be able to get movies in your pc" or things like that. But you dont have to understand what are really doing, or all that it implies. People are getting powerful things, and as childs are irresponsible about what could happen because their actions because they don't understand them.

    It seem plain clear to us that having a common, default admin passwords in all the jailbroken devices is a very bad policy, but how many times we could had fell in a similar situation were are us who don't understand fully what we are using i.e. in other areas?

    To make things worse, we complain a lot about products that takes the "safest" choice for us, not giving enough control/customization to the final (knowing enough?) user, making those impopular and so not taken even by the people that don't know (or don't want to know).

    1. Re:Abstraction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I see your point, but I think there is a considerable difference between locking a user into a particular control structure and providing an adequate level of technical security.

    2. Re:Abstraction by marcansoft · · Score: 1

      Common, default admin passwords are present on all phones, jailbroken or not (it's just that they're basically useless with Apple's firmware). Jailbreaking it doesn't make you any more vulnerable, that only happens after you (manually) install OpenSSH. If anything, the OpenSSH package should force users to change their passwords (or refuse to work otherwise), but jailbreaking itself has nothing to do with this. People appear to be equating jailbreaking with having OpenSSH installed, which is entirely untrue.

    3. Re:Abstraction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or default to only allowing public key login, so the user would have to explicitly enable password login.

  15. Re:ROFL by Ethanol-fueled · · Score: 1

    Die Hard with a Vengeance comes to mind.

  16. Why is there a default password at all? by Colin+Smith · · Score: 1

    Jeez. People knew that was a bad idea decades ago.

     

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    1. Re:Why is there a default password at all? by hansraj · · Score: 1

      Yeah, and I don't get why the executable used for jail-breaking an iPhone couldn't either

      a) Prompt the user to choose a root password, or
      b) Generate a (random) root password for each install.

      I mean seriously, what is the idea behind having a default root password?

    2. Re:Why is there a default password at all? by marcansoft · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The default install doesn't come with OpenSSH anyway. If you deliberately install OpenSSH (to access your stuff using WiFi, which is why most people do) and fail to change your password (which should be blatantly obvious, since it's what you'll be using to access the phone over WiFi), well, shame on you. If you can't deduce that anyone can access your phone remotely just as well as you can, you shouldn't be doing these things.

      Really, a good part of the blame is probably on tutorials and guides out there that tell you to install OpenSSH and don't mention changing your password (or don't mention it in bold/red enough text). Smart people change their password, and dumb people don't go messing with a weirdly-named package that isn't listed under the "user-friendly GUI stuff" categories. It takes a poorly-written tutorial to bridge the gap.

      FWIW, the default passwords are already there on Apple's OS. Jailbreaking by itself doesn't make the phone any less secure because it only lets you install unsigned apps. It's installing OpenSSH that suddenly turns the default passwords into a huge security hole. If OpenSSH were hypothetically available on the App store, the issue would still be present.

    3. Re:Why is there a default password at all? by peragrin · · Score: 1

      Of course that is one of the many reasons why apple is so anal about what apps can be do and which api's they can use.

      if i put on the tinfoil I would bet that apple themselves engineered the virus to spread through only jail broken phones to prove just how dangerous jail breaking is.

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    4. Re:Why is there a default password at all? by adolf · · Score: 1

      Danger? When I installed OpenSSH on via Cydia, I got a big fat warning about being sure to change the password (the default is "alpine".)

      I, of course, did so immediately. As I would've done anyway, even if Cydia didn't prompt me to do so.

      The problem here, at the root of it, is this: Apple ships the device with a default password, but no means of remote access, so that's OK. User comes by and plugs in a remote-access application (OpenSSH), fails to heed the warnings about enabling SSH without changing the password, and gets pwned.

      I'd like to assume that most people who are interested in SSH are also clued enough to understand the threat therein. But you know what they say about assumptions...

    5. Re:Why is there a default password at all? by Proteus+Child · · Score: 1

      And they still think that nothing will happen to them as a result.

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      Doko ni datte; hito wa, tsunagette iru.

  17. Unless... by dreamchaser · · Score: 1

    That seems a bit excessive when a simple one-time usage of the included "passwd" utility will suffice. Srsly though, jailbreaking utilities should be pestering users to change their password from the default because this is only scaring less-knowledgeable folk into thinking Jailbreak == viruses

    Unless of course the author of a particular jailbreak utility WANTS to compromise the target units.

  18. Whis is behind this? by future+assassin · · Score: 1

    Apple? Hmm big corp don't like customer freedom.

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    1. Re:Whis is behind this? by jim_v2000 · · Score: 1

      You know what corporations like less than customer freedom? Class action lawsuits and criminal penalties, which is what they'd be facing if it was ever discovered that they wrote a worm for iPhones. All it would take is one whistleblower.

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      Don't take life so seriously. No one makes it out alive.
  19. How is this going to get made Apple's fault? by BlueBoxSW.com · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So Apple has been working hard to keep jailbreaking down to a minimum. Now it is discovered that some jailbroken phones with jailbroken apps have security issues.

    How is someone going to now turn this around and blame Apple?

  20. RickRolling the iPhone!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Being rickrolled is not malicious. It's a privilege.

  21. Published passwords == bad. It's that simple. by badger.foo · · Score: 1

    Publishing your password on the net (which is roughly equivalent to what these lusers have done) borders on criminal negligence. I've ranted about this before (and yes, it was /.ed), and the conclusion remains the same:

    if you run with a default password, for root or otherwise, you have effectively published that account's password.

    What is bound to happen after you have published your password is left as an exercise to the eader.

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    -- That grumpy BSD guy - http://bsdly.blogspot.com/
    1. Re:Published passwords == bad. It's that simple. by toriver · · Score: 1

      You should not be so quick to dismiss the benefits to known default passwords. Once I had to install an application targeting an Oracle database, but when I got there none of the techs present were Oracle administrators. Luckily, the people who had set up the database hadn't bothered with changing defaults, so I was able to do the install via the SYSTEM user. Didn't check if they also had default on DBA (or was it called SYSDBA?) since that default password is too long to bother with.

    2. Re:Published passwords == bad. It's that simple. by badger.foo · · Score: 1

      Oh, there's certainly a convenience factor, of course. The problem starts when your account with the default password is exposed to the world at large. In the case of the jailbroken iphones there is no sane reason to have a default password - for root of all things - in the first place.

      And http://www.defaultpassword.com/?action=dpl&char=d confirms my hazy memory of the DEC field circus' User: field pass: service - which is good for a few stories in itself, of on-sites changing the password to 'circus' and a few mostly forgotten tales about putting modems into the mix and getting unusual activity from the field account.

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      -- That grumpy BSD guy - http://bsdly.blogspot.com/
  22. Makes your iPhone just a little more exciting. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Google reader was showing an ad titled "Make your iPhone a little more exciting" with this article. Very exciting indeed!

  23. SIM lock by DrYak · · Score: 1

    1. Use the network of their choice

    Good question !
    Is the iPhone sold by AT&T SIM-Locked ?
    Or is only the iPhone OS testing on which network it is connected ?

    That's an important distinction :
    - In the former case, the restriction of choice is done by the actual GSM/UTMS chip it self.
    Enabling the user to run the software of his/her choice doesn't change a thing. To unlock the phone a special command has to be sent to the chip to allow it to use another SIM card with a different identification number.
    - In the later case a jail breaked phone could simply be instructed to bypass the check.

    As an exemple, Android "Google"-Phones may use SIM-lock (depending on the plan, etc.)
    In which case you can install pretty much everything you want on the phone (specially with Android being open-source, etc.)
    But you're still required to use the same SIM card - The GSM chip is linked to specific range of ISMI and will refuse de go only with others.

    But I have no idea about iPhones.

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    1. Re:SIM lock by marcansoft · · Score: 1

      The former. These days, jailbreaking is a prerequisite to sim-unlock (because you need to access the software to talk dirty to the GSM chipset, a.k.a. baseband). You may or may not be able to unlock the phone once you're jailbroken, especially if you've applied an Apple update that updates the GSM chipset to close holes. For example, AFAIR, the iPhone 3GS can be thoroughly pwned as far as software goes after any update (ROM bootloader bugs), but updating the baseband will lock you out of unlocks until new exploits come out (and no, downgrading is not possible).

  24. HOWTO: Putting the blame on Apple by DrYak · · Score: 1

    How is someone going to now turn this around and blame Apple?

    Well it's easy :
    It's all Apple's fault. If they did provide absolutely all feature that every single user wanted, even including the weird hacking geeks, people won't be needing to jailbreak their phone in the first place.
    Therefore : Let's blame Apple !

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    "Sufficiently advanced satire is indistinguishable from reality." - [Tips: 1DrYakQDKCQ6y52z6QbnkxHXAocMZJE61o ]
    1. Re:HOWTO: Putting the blame on Apple by rrohbeck · · Score: 1

      Actually true. If they hadn't locked down the iPhone, there would be no need for jailbreaking. If the iPhone had an open but secure OS all of this wouldn't happen.
      Me, I'm still waiting for news about how open or locked down the various Android implementations are.

  25. Re:ROFL by mysidia · · Score: 1

    It's like the guy who wants to start a bank, who leaves the doors to the building in the default position (unlocked) always, and leaves the money vault's combination, set to the default "1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16", which is printed on a sticker at the top of the lock he didn't bother to remove "Default combination: ..

  26. What, a worm on a platform with no market share? by nato10 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Doesn't this (finally) put to bed the notion that there are virtually no worms or viruses for Mac OS X simply because hackers don't want to waste their time on a platform with so little market share? The platform targeted by the hackers in this case -- jailbroken iphones running a particular service -- is a fraction of the installed base of Mac OS X computers. It seems that hackers (naturally) select their targets primarily based on ease of exploit -- jailbroken iphones with SSH installed with a default password, for instance, or Microsoft Windows -- than on market share, since any of these platforms still provides tens of millions of potential targets.

    I think it's also important to note that the security of Mac OS X extends to the iPhone as well; hackers are apparently unable to successfully compromise the much larger installed base of iPhones, having to content themselves with the much smaller population that has been jailbroken (read, "security compromised").

  27. More seriously by DrYak · · Score: 1

    ...
    In a more serious way :
    If you look, there's a gradation of phone un-locking.

    With iPhone at one range of the spectrum : people have to circumvent Apple's limitation to be able to do what they want with the phone. You can't even do some pretty much basic stuff like tethering - I find this particularly asinine. I've been doing that for years (almost a decade) with my antique Ericsson T39. Since IrDA/Bluetooth and GPRS have been existing, people have been doing it, but on what's supposed to be the latest bast smartphone you can't do it ? WTF ?!?

    In the middle of the range you got Android : Not much firmware flashing because most end-users get all the features they want. The only reason to flash your phone is if your phone maker lags in releasing firmware updates, and some will block you from installing all the applications you want - but restrict you to app stores only. Thankfully the majority of Androids out there do what their users want them to do.

    At the other hand you have things like Windows phone and the various incarnation of Palm (PalmOS, WebOS, etc.) - an SDK for developing is pretty much standard on these platforms and you can run pretty much anything on it. No need to flash.

    The popularity of iPhone jail-breaking simply stems from Apple's tendency to be control freaks and wanting 100% over the whole "Apple experience".
    It's understandable from a marketing point of view, but that's not what users want. But it doesn't matter as there are other more open alternatives to pick from.

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    1. Re:More seriously by magamiako1 · · Score: 1

      "That's not what users want"....

      Okay, so the iphone is the hottest selling smart phone on the market, and no users "want what it offers".....seriously.

    2. Re:More seriously by Rexdude · · Score: 1

      It's understandable from a marketing point of view, but that's not what Slashdot readers, hackers and power users want

      Fixed that for you. The vast majority of iPhone users are average folks who aren't going to bother with jailbreak and simply use the phone as Apple intended.

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  28. Why these stories come packaged like this... by xgadflyx · · Score: 1

    Honestly, these headlines of recent need to include the word 'jailbroken' - then I wouldn't have to read them. Really, who cares? If you're jailbreaking your iPhone , man up and secure it. It's no different than any other computing device.

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    Civilization, the death of dreams.
  29. intelligence by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What I don't see is upon installation of openssh it would be easy enough to force the user to change the password? Why don't they just have a simple check within openssh that if the password is the default upon the first login force the user to change the password?

  30. Stop stop stop by loftling · · Score: 1

    Seriously misleading. Next headline: "Toyota Prius prone to nuclear explosion". ... if you remove the engine, put your homebrew uranium fuel rods in it, and forget to read the owner's manual about needing proper coolant.

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    1. Re:Stop stop stop by mjwx · · Score: 1

      Seriously misleading

      How?

      First Malicious Iphone Worm In The Wild

      Lets break this down.

      First - yep, no other malicious iphone worm came before it.

      Malicious - yep, the author intended to do damage.

      Iphone - yep, it runs on the iphone.

      Worm - yep, it is a computer worm

      In The Wild - yes, this virus is in the wild.

      The summary also said this uses the same exploit that was used with the Rickrolls, the summary also stated that this only affected Jailbroken handsets. So, you could not just simply read the damn summary before complaining. Headlines are meant to be very short, if you put all the information into the headline it would end up being something else, we'd call it something like a summary, you know, that thing you neglected to read before winging.

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  31. Passwd is not the solution by grouchyDude · · Score: 1

    One reason why people might still be using the original password, and why this is all a hassle, is that the normal UNIX passwd program cannot be used on the iPhone.

    I believe one needs to manually edit a file called /etc/master.passwd

    1. Re:Passwd is not the solution by elijahu · · Score: 1

      You do not know what you are talking about.

      While that might be "a" way to change the password, the MobileTerminal program provides a convenient shell from which passwd works just fine. It is strongly recommended that the root and the "mobile" accounts' passwords are changed from their default. Instructions for doing so abound even with screen shots for people who can't be bothered to read. While there is the "hassle" of having to install MobileTerminal, I'm not sure this is really too much trouble for someone that has gone to the effort to jailbreak in the first place.

      That being said, Saurik should be able to make the installation process for OpenSSH ask the user to change the passwords. It also should not be enabled by default, or turn itself back on after it is turned off (in my experience the OpenSSH program has a tendency to do both).

    2. Re:Passwd is not the solution by grouchyDude · · Score: 1

      OK smartie, here's what I was referring to:

      "The supplied UNIX passwd command in BSD Subsystem is broken for firmware 1.1.3 and 1.1.4.
      Attempting to change the password under firmware 1.1.3 or 1.1.4 will result in your device continuously rebooting.
      (The reboot fix involves holding both the Power button and the 'Home' button down for at least 30 seconds, then [upon seeing a triangle icon], plugging the device into iTunes for restoration.)"

      See: http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20080224231344798

      For newer (current) firmwares it fixed, but some people still run the old stuff.

  32. Re:ROFL by ourcraft · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Booth stopped rotting a long time ago. As such he no longer stinks. Not stinking is hardly enough to be called a patriot. I can think of nothing else to recommend him.

  33. NO NO NO... by Anim8me2 · · Score: 1

    NO NO NO... the title for the article should read "First malicious worm for JAILBROKEN iPhones in the wild" because that is the only way to get it and lazy readers will just start running for the hills claiming how insecure the iPhone is.

    And by lazy readers I mean tech journalists.

  34. Nope, still wrong, AT&T allows skype on 3G by SuperKendall · · Score: 2, Informative
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    "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
    1. Re:Nope, still wrong, AT&T allows skype on 3G by Ender_Wiggin · · Score: 1

      Yes but the updated Skype to allow this has not yet hit the App Store.

    2. Re:Nope, still wrong, AT&T allows skype on 3G by DavidTC · · Score: 1

      Perhaps you can in your universe, where a press release stating they will allow VoIP over 3G means that apps that do VoIP over 3G are already in their store.

      They aren't, you idiot. They aren't getting approved. (Despite several already being approved for wifi, and thus all they need to do is take out the test for that.)

      --
      If corporations are people, aren't stockholders guilty of slavery?
  35. Please don't call it jailbreaking... by KillShill · · Score: 1

    It gives the impression you (the customer) is doing something wrong (breaking out of jail). Call it "removing the DRM". Personally, I don't know why anyone would want to buy a DRM-crippled device for hundreds of dollars and be beholden to 2 mega corporations dictating what you can and can't do with it. But I'll defend to the death the right of the public to do what they please with what they buy (own). F*** corporate rights!

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    Science : Proprietary , Knowledge : Open Source
    1. Re:Please don't call it jailbreaking... by magamiako1 · · Score: 1

      Shouldn't this be enough proof that having a jailbroken device capable of running anything under the sun is a problem from a security standpoint?

  36. Insane by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    People need to change their password, instead of using a default (known) password.

    Maybe Cydia should prompt for a new password when installing sshd and make sure root is disabled on sshd?

    This should effect a minority number of jailbroken phones (because if you are going to jailbreak you probably know enough to change the password) and since jailbroken phones are already less than 25 percent of iPhones, how is this even news? That has to be an extremely small number of possible targets. Not to mention the fact that every phone company already runs a firewall which prevents you from infecting anyone NOT using your telco's service.

    I'm guessing with all these limiters, that less than a handful (a few hundred) phones world wide will ever be infected?

  37. Re:What, a worm on a platform with no market share by oasisweb · · Score: 1

    I think it's also important to note that the security of Mac OS X extends to the iPhone as well; hackers are apparently unable to successfully compromise the much larger installed base of iPhones, having to content themselves with the much smaller population that has been jailbroken (read, "security compromised").

    Obviously you do not remember how the early firmwares were jailbroken.
    All you had to do was visit a website.

    Except, everyone loves it when there's a new exploit discovered for the iPhone, and pretends not to recognize how that could easily have been used to spread a malicious worm instead.

  38. Re:What, a worm on a platform with no market share by ubernostrum · · Score: 1

    Doesn't this (finally) put to bed the notion that there are virtually no worms or viruses for Mac OS X simply because hackers don't want to waste their time on a platform with so little market share?

    Well, my personal opinion is that OS X doesn't get as much malware because its security model is better then Windows' in at least one crucial way: it has the Unix concept of the executable bit, which turns the system from "default allow" to "default deny" and so locks out a huge number of traditional Windows vectors (the auto-executing email attachment, the auto-executing drive-by download, the auto-executing IM attachment, etc., etc.) in one fell swoop. As others have said, "default allow" is the dumbest idea in the history of computer security.

    But as for people putting in their time, well, I don't know if you noticed but if you come up with a crack for something produced by Apple you'll end up with 5.75x10^600 pageviews from the resulting press coverage (see: pwn2own, which has basically become a luck of the draw contest -- if you get to go first, you win because you're sitting on a canned exploit you kept secret solely for the contest). And certain types of people love that sort of attention.

  39. Two accounts, two passwords by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Too many people says password like there's only one; which was to be expected in Youtube, but not from the pros (?) at security.nl. All your personal data is still vulnerable if you don't change the password of the default user ("mobile") besides root's. The instructions at Cydia do include such step.

    I don't recall a big fat warning on installing OpenSSH however, and didn't got one on reinstall either. Instead, I do remember taking my sweet time to install MoibleTerminal and set new passwords, out of laziness... *blush* I can perfectly understand how a non-techie would never get around it.

    A terminal is a dark, scary thing, and a first encounter in such a limited device must be, well, like a shell bomb. You can simply follow a short recipe, sure, but that requires reading and not having a short attention span... so of course most people will end up in Youtube and with one password still in default... if not both.

    So yeah, keep it simple dummy... have the install script ask for both passwords, and save the world from more Rick & Rolling.

  40. Jailbreaking and Unlocking - they're different by jht · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Being only able to buy the iPhone here in the US as a carrier-locked phone - that's wrong and sucks. But sadly that's the rule here because of the deal Apple has with AT&T. May it expire soon, even though the only other national GSM carrier is T-Mobile and they have an even smaller footprint. It'd be nice to take an iPhone out of the country and get a local SIM without having to use your AT&T account.

    Of course, that carrier lock is also why the iPhone costs $200 instead of about $600 or so - the carrier subsidy that AT&T pays Apple for it keeps you from having to pay all the money up front.

    Jailbreaking, though, is a different story. Anyone who wants to jailbreak their iPhone should feel free to do so and run whatever they want. But if you go to the trouble to bypass Apple's application security model you get what you get. Not Apple's fault.

    But things like this worm make me understand that much more why Apple works to plug the holes that jailbreak tools keep exploiting. We may not all like that we're restricted to getting apps from the App Store, but on the other hand the iPhone isn't sold as a tool for personal freedom. It's sold as a phone that runs apps that you get from Apple. Period.

    There's other phones that are marketed as "freedom phones". If people want that above all else, they should buy a phone with the appropriate OS and not an iPhone.

    Ultimately, I hope Apple opens up the App Store further and simply reviews apps to answer just a couple of questions:

    1 - Does the app do anything that expressly isn't allowed by carrier contracts?

    2 - Does it break the published development rules?

    If it doesn't, then it ought to be published, period. For instance, now that AT&T stated that VoIP would now be allowed on their network, all the Google Voice apps and Skype should immediately be approved and put out for 3G usage. Because those apps don't break guidelines and are now allowed by the carrier.

    But even if they eliminated all restrictions short of that, the App Store will never be the free market that jailbreakers want to have. So get another phone. I hear you can run anything you want on Windows Mobile.

    (why you'd want to may be another story...)

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    -- Josh Turiel
    "2. Do not eat iPod Shuffle."
  41. Re:ROFL by Brummund · · Score: 1

    Well, that's a fairly good code compared to the launch codes of the Minute Man nuclear missiles during the cold war:

    Our launch checklist in fact instructed us, the firing crew, to double-check the locking panel in our underground launch bunker to ensure that no digits other than zero had been inadvertently dialed into the panel. SAC remained far less concerned about unauthorized launches than about the potential of these safeguards to interfere with the implementation of wartime launch orders. And so the "secret unlock code" during the height of the nuclear crises of the Cold War remained constant at OOOOOOOO.

    http://www.cdi.org/blair/permissive-action-links.cfm

  42. Droid by DrYak · · Score: 1

    Me, I'm still waiting for news about how open or locked down the various Android implementations are.

    The Google Dev phone is (HTC Dream but Google-branded, not AT&T brande), for example, completely unlocked.

    There are countries (like in Switzerland) where phones aren't directly subsidized by- and sold exclusively by- phone companies, but where subscribing a data plan simply gives you a rebate to use while buying whichever phone you like.
    In such place the dev phone is definitely a good buy.

    My brother got one in such a way.

    The only official limitation with Android phones is that although the OS it self is open-source and freely available, there are various proprietary Google-Apps (Google Maps, etc. the so called "Google Experience") whose licenses don't allow re-distribution.
    That means, if you want to flash a completely new OS - like a community build of the latest Android - you need to backup your Google Apps to re-install them after the flash.

    That also means you don't get Google Applications on phone which didn't directly license Android from Google, but use their own build of the opensource OS :
    Thus for OpenMoko or for various asian google-clones, you get android and full phone functionality but no additional google-apps.

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  43. Re:ROFL by mysidia · · Score: 1

    A perfect example of why computers should not allow humans to specify the password. Instead it should be randomly generated at time of manufacture, and the only password change operation allowed should be "generate a new random password"

  44. My Universe is the real one... by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    You know, the one where I can buy VOIP apps for the iPhone that work over 3G?

    Well, technically you can't buy it since it's free. I had to include that disclaimer because in a desperate attempt to salvage some dignity I imagine you might try to further attack me on that point.

    I guess you should have spent longer than ten seconds on Google and not tried to outwit someone who knows what the hell they are talking about. I guess you should not assume that Skype is the only VOIP app on the planet, I suppose that may well be amistake many non-technical users would make. How embarrassing to be you!

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    "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
    1. Re:My Universe is the real one... by DavidTC · · Score: 1

      Perhaps you should actually read that article and notice that using the sentence 'This makes international calls much cheaper, by allowing you to dial a local number, then connecting internationally to over 50 countries. '.

      That isn't VoIP over 3g. That isn't VoIP on the iPhone at all. That's dialing a local number that lets you get cheap long distance.

      If you actually try to make VoIP call over 3G, using Nimbuzz, you get the message that you can't make a VoIP call becuase you're on wifi. I know this because I actually have Nimbuzz on my iPhone, and actually make calls using it, whereas you apparently can just use a google search but don't appear to have any reading comprehension skills.

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  45. Works both ways by DrYak · · Score: 1

    so the iphone is the hottest selling smart phone on the marketand no users "want what it offers".....seriously.

    "So the iPhone is the perfect device that every single users have ever dream of and nobody will never need any additional functionality ever, but curiously a huge amount of them still feel the urge to circumvent the restrictions ?"

    See, your reflection works both ways.

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  46. Wow.. by Wovel · · Score: 1

    People are going to great lengths to pretend like there are vulnerabilities in the iPhone. This is a Darwin worm and not much else.

  47. Re:ROFL by Idiomatick · · Score: 1

    It is a worm where the security hole used is ssh ... being open and having a standard password on jailbroken phones. That hardly counts.

    Also I'm pretty sure present day meaning of 'patriot' means willing to do whatever your government asks, caseinpoint Patriot act.