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Wikileaks Publishes 500,000 9/11 Pager Messages

An anonymous reader writes "Wikileaks is preparing to release 500,000 intercepted pager messages from a 24-hour period encompassing the September 11 terrorist attacks. The messages show emergency services springing into action and computer systems sending automated messages as buildings collapse. Wikileaks implies this data came from an organised collection effort."

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  1. Or option C. . . by Fantastic+Lad · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    C. Elements of both.

    As I understand things, it is unrealistic to think that the Government and related military bodies were conspiring together, as it implies a singularity of intent within a ridiculously massive structure. It's like saying that the Government is one thing when really it's a huge collection of many forces working at counter-purposes, operating from different levels of knowledge and awareness, having different sources of funding and which answer to numerous different authorities which are rarely in agreement, -and for which even the most basic levels of public oversight are cosmetic and generally useless.

    Also, you didn't mention Big Business and, Foreign *cough Israel* Governments in your two options, which combined with the above, all comes together to create what is known as the Military Industrial Complex. --A concept which is largely misunderstood. The MIC is a giant, hopelessly complex, corrupt, world-spanning system in which it is entirely possible for small groups of people to work in secret to enact whatever agendas they feel obliged to visit upon the world. It happens all the time, except instead of pushing unsafe hormones past public oversight bodies and into cow's milk, or selling toxic peanuts or ripping off the public through savings and loans scandals, or selling Palestinian pancreases on the black market, or selling drugs to fund contra rebels, or whatever, this piece of bullshit happened to use airplanes and be more in your face and ambitious than the usual con job. But clearly it wasn't overly-ambitious, because all the goals have been met and nobody got caught.

    Bullshit happens all the time, crafty nasty people plan in secret all the time and they get away with murder, we rarely ever find out exactly what the heck happened, and with the exception of the token sacrificial goat now and again, the people responsible never actually get punished.

    And nearly everybody continues to believe what the soothing talking heads on TV have to say about it all while disregarding their own senses and while ridiculing those who have the balls to try to think for themselves.

    You know? Business as usual.

    -FL

  2. Re:So much raw data by secretcurse · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Dude, you're trying to inject logic into a discussion with a truther. You're going to get better results trying to move a building with your forehead...

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