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EU About To Grant US Unlimited Access To Banking Data

An anonymous reader points out a blog post reporting that on Monday The EU Council is set to give US intelligence services full access to SWIFT banking data, despite a unanimous call by the European Parliament not to do so. "The move of SWIFT the data server to Switzerland would be an excellent opportunity to stop the nearly unlimited access of US authorities on EU bank transactions. But EU justice and interior ministers are apparently keen [on agreeing to] a deal as soon as possible, on 30 November. Why 30 November? Because one day later, on 1 December 2009, the EU’s Lisbon Treaty will be in force and would allow the European Parliament to play a major role in the negotiations of the deal with the US. A deal one day before will be a slap in the face to democracy in the EU. ... [W]hile the US will be able to access EU banking data, no access to US banking data by EU [authorities] is being foreseen."

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  1. It is just me... by Apotekaren · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ... does the 30th of November sound like a great day to pull pranks like false fire-alarms and what-not to interfere with the deal? For once I my life I would condone civil disobedience, and for once it might even have an impact.

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  2. Re:About Time! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So US tax cheats get caught at the expense of EU privacy? F***ing s**t deal if you live in the EU. My transactions have got cock all to do with you.

    And Americans wonder why everybody hates them.

  3. It's even worse than that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They'll give access to all inter-bank transactions. The whole issue started with the revelation that US intelligence had access to SWIFT data through SWIFT's US data center. SWIFT then shifted its operation to its other data centers and will cease channeling EU transaction data through the US data center by the end of the year. So the loss of access for the US spies is the SWIFT data, but the treaty will give them access to all inter-bank transactions, even those which are not processed by SWIFT. This is a classic rebound technique: The EU cannot spy on its own citizens like that, but they do get information back from US spies.

    Who's to blame? The US, for shamelessly exploiting the people they often call their friends? The EU council, for betraying their people? Why choose...

    If this goes through on Monday, there will be calls to punish the EU Council for treason, but of course nothing will come of it.

    1. Re:It's even worse than that by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If this goes through on Monday, there will be calls to punish the EU Council for treason, but of course nothing will come of it.

      As far as I'm aware, the EU still takes more public money than any other organisation that has failed to produce audited accounts, and it's been doing so for more than a decade now. I think we can safely assume that they are above the law. And if they're not, as we've recently seen with the Lisbon treaty, they are quite capable of rewriting the law until they are, without needing any mandate from the people.

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  4. Re:Banking INternationally by kdemetter · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Because it's not about doing wrong : it's about using fear as a means to control people.

  5. Re:everyone doesn't hate Americans by Jesus_666 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Americans are nice. Generally very open, sociable people who will be happy to strike up a conversation with you if they notice you're from a country they've been to or some such. The United States of America (and, by extension, the people making up the American government) is a sociopathic asshole of a country that constantly betrays the principle it was founded on and follows international law only when it feels like it (and tries to get the law amended so it can do whatever it wants).

    Huge difference. I'd be happy to come over to the place where the Americans live and spend some time there - if only that place didn't happen to be America.

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