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New Aluminum-Ice Rocket Propellant Tested

eldavojohn writes "With the problem of moving conventional rocket fuel to the Moon and Mars on their minds, researchers from Purdue and Penn State successfully tested and demonstrated the use of aluminum-ice (ALICE) as fuel. In a paper from last August they outlined how it would work (PDF), and now they know it does. Space.com also has more information on the paper and how nano-scale aluminum functions as a fuel."

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  1. In other words by BadAnalogyGuy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Fly me to the moon. Let me play among the stars. Let me see what spring is like on Jupiter and Mars.

    We spend so much time arguing with each other here on Slashdot, but when it comes down to it, we're all in this together. We are going to need to secure a future for future generations, so putting an effort into developing non-volatile fuels which can be formulated anywhere is one huge step towards getting off this rock.

    Aluminum is plentiful anywhere we intend to go. This could really be the breakthrough that we've been looking for.

    In other words, please be true. In other words, I love you.

    1. Re:In other words by binarylarry · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yep and apparently they've figured out a way to make water from ice.

      Man, what science can do these days is amazing!

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    2. Re:In other words by TheRaven64 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Really? Because hydrogen is the most common element in the universe, and oxygen is also pretty close to the top of the list (third most abundant element overall). Comets contain a lot of water ice. Aluminium is on of the three most common elements in the Earth's crust, but it's not nearly as common as hydrogen and oxygen in the universe at large.

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    3. Re:In other words by TheRaven64 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Volatile means that it vaporises easily, not that it burns (although vaporising at room temperature and reacting with oxygen make things easy to burn). Aluminium does not become vapour easily and so is non-volatile. If you mix it with rust and light it with a magnesium flame, it will burn pretty well though...

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  2. ALICE? by LocutusMIT · · Score: 5, Funny

    One of these days, ALICE. Wham! Pow! Straight to the Moon!

    1. Re:ALICE? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Alice? Who the f**k is Alice?

    2. Re:ALICE? by Ethanol-fueled · · Score: 5, Informative

      You may be too young to remember, but it was acceptable and even funny to beat your wife in the '50's.

      Get off my lawn or one of these days...POW! Right in the kisser!

    3. Re:ALICE? by Speare · · Score: 3, Informative

      For those not in on the joke, see very early US television comedy, "The Honeymooners." Its characters were the original inspiration for the cartoon Flintstones, which might give you an indication of the age of this joke.

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    4. Re:ALICE? by jointm1k · · Score: 2, Insightful
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    5. Re:ALICE? by palegray.net · · Score: 4, Funny

      Alice is a friend of Bob's who wants to send a message to Mary but without Susie intercepting it.

    6. Re:ALICE? by Have+Brain+Will+Rent · · Score: 2, Informative

      And it's worth pointing out that in the show the character being quoted never hit his wife and in fact spent a lot of time begging and toadying toward her.

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  3. Old news, but not to /. by confused+one · · Score: 4, Informative

    MIT Technology Review is a little late here. This was covered by numerous sources back in October. Surprisingly, I can't find it in the /. archives; so, it may not be a dupe.

    1. Re:Old news, but not to /. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      The paper describing the theory was released in August. The actual live test of the theory occurred last week, thus the MIT Technology Review article is timely. Your name is appropriate it seems.

    2. Re:Old news, but not to /. by deglr6328 · · Score: 2, Informative
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  4. "Enhance"? by John+Hasler · · Score: 2, Informative

    > The oxygen and hydrogen in water molecules enhance the combustion of the
    > aluminum.

    "Enhance"? Um, the water _is_ the oxidizer.

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    1. Re:"Enhance"? by John+Hasler · · Score: 3, Informative

      > ...more oxygen...

      There is no oxygen present except for that in the water molecules.

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  5. Re:Reading comprehension. by John+Hasler · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Hmm. One _could_ make solid fuel with rice flour and potassium chlorate or a similar oxidizer...

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  6. Thermite + Water Vapor = BOOM by Azarael · · Score: 4, Informative

    For a neat visual presentation of the physics they're relying on, Mythbusters did an experiment on the explosive power of thermite powder and water vapor http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnHR4cMXiyM.

  7. Its seeing things like this .. by OzPeter · · Score: 5, Informative

    that highlight the safety instructions I've had at Aluminium plants. You never, ever, ever drop anything like used aluminium cans into the feed that is headed for melt shop as any bit of liquid still in the can will cause a rather powerful explosion

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    1. Re:Its seeing things like this .. by mangu · · Score: 5, Informative

      You never, ever, ever drop anything like used aluminium cans into the feed that is headed for melt shop as any bit of liquid still in the can will cause a rather powerful explosion

      It's also a known rule that you use sand, never water, to extinguish a fire where molten aluminum is present.

      However, the biggest danger from dropping aluminum cans in the melt is from the steam expansion, not from burning aluminum. Having *any* humidity at all where molten metal runs, any metal, not just aluminum, will produce large quantities of steam, which will expand explosively throwing molten metal all around.

      I know this from personal experience, when I was about twelve years old I was burned while melting lead to make fishing weights. I dropped the mold in water to cool it and the next time I poured metal in it I got a spray of molten lead right in my face. Lucky me, none of it hit my eyes.

  8. There is by Dunbal · · Score: 3, Interesting

    A better article on the engine here.

          However I don't get how TFA considers this fuel as "environmentally friendly". Firstly one of the byproducts is aluminum hydroxide which, apart from helping us with our stomach ulcers, may be linked to brain disease - but I don't really care about that - the amount generated from a few rocket launches won't kill us all. But I argue that aluminum is not a naturally occurring substance - it has to be manufactured, and aluminum manufacture is the most energy intensive process around. So don't come to me with "environmentally friendly rocket fuel" when god knows how many tonnes of CO2 were dumped in the atmosphere to make the energy to refine that bauxite.

          Still, if it works, it's better than "other" fuels that have extreme storage or environmental implications. Good for them.

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    1. Re:There is by ceoyoyo · · Score: 2, Informative

      Rocket fuel = concentrated energy.

      However you get that energy, you can have rocket fuels that are nasty pollutants or rocket fuels that are not, and rocket fuels that produce exhaust that is a nasty pollutant or not. Hydrogen + oxygen = water is probably the best, but some of the solid fuel rockets are nasty. Both the reactants and the products are a little more toxic than "may be linked to brain disease [but we drink it anyway]."

      Besides, most aluminum plants are located near some cheap source of energy specifically because aluminum requires so much electricity to refine. The really cheap sources of lots of energy tend to be hydroelectric, not fossil fuel. Boeing isn't based in Seattle because they like the weather.

  9. Re:Reading comprehension. by Dunbal · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Hmm. One _could_ make solid fuel with rice flour and potassium chlorate or a similar oxidizer...

          Hell, you can turn a grain silo into a rocket with just one match...

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  10. Re:Reading comprehension. by arielCo · · Score: 2, Funny

    Hmm. One _could_ make solid fuel with rice flour and potassium chlorate or a similar oxidizer...

    Wow, I knew McGyver posted under an alias on /. ;)

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  11. Let's add some afterburners! by sabre86 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It looks like the exhaust products should include a fair amount of hydrogen gas. If so, you could add a liquid oxygen tank, inject LOX upstream of the nozzle and burn the hydrogen that's freed up to produce even more thrust, and more importantly, a higher specific impulse. You might even be able to use it to create bimodal rockets that use the ALICE fuel for high thrust early in a launch and switch to pure H2/O2 later for the higher efficiency.

  12. Previous Cool Motors And Stuff by DynaSoar · · Score: 2, Insightful

    http://www.wickmanspacecraft.com/wspcnews.html

    John Wickman has been working on aluminum/oxidizer (LOX, not ice) motors since the 80s. His are intended to run on lunar soil.

    Also in the can, a jet engine that runs on Martian atmosphere. Development from Oberth's original ammonium nitrate motors as an alternative to ammonium perchlorate.

    Now working on NASA's SHARP re-entry vehicle. He's also one of the few pros that teach his craft at the amateur level and consult out to rocketers who want to carry out major projects.

    "Rocket scientist" used to be a compliment. That fell away as they numbered into the tens of thousands and each did a tiny piece of engineering. This guy earns that title all over again.

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  13. Isn't today, wasn't acceptable back then either by Latent+Heat · · Score: 2, Insightful
    I don't recall the "Straight to the moon!" line as being a laugh line even back in the day.

    The whole premise of Ralph Kramden was, "You know that crabby bus driver, I wonder what he is like to his wife and friends?"

    Ralph on one hand was supposed to be an object of the viewer's sympathy -- a working class guy barely making ends meet, living in a tiny apartment with his wife, barely any furniture or any other possessions to their name. On the other hand, Ralph was a blowhard, a guy with a chip on his shoulder, a fellow in humble circumstances who thought he was Center of the Universe, and yes, a guy who fought with his wife at times, even threatening domestic battery. That a guy like that even talked liked that was regarded as a "fact of life" back in the day, but it was part of the character portrait that Ralph could be the butt of our jokes, someone who perhaps deserved the laughs and ridicule that came his way.

    On the other hand, a seemingly self-effacing mega-celebrity golf pro, suspected for cheating on his wife, leaves the house at 2 AM with his wife in hot pursuit breaking out windows on his truck leading him to crash into a hydrant and then a tree, found unconscious on the grass after being beaten about the head with a golf club, who refuses three times to meet with the cops and give a statement and "lawyers up" to keep his wife out of jail on zero-tolerance domestic battery laws put on the books to protect women from abusive husbands, now that is not funny either. And one does not laugh.

    1. Re:Isn't today, wasn't acceptable back then either by lennier · · Score: 2, Funny

      "now that is not funny either. And one does not laugh."

      No, the mental image of (snk) Tiger Woods being whacked with a golf club by his wife is (snurf) most definitely not funny. Not even in abstract.

      Sorry, something in my eye. I'll be right back.

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  14. Isp and Exhaust Velocity by Baldrson · · Score: 4, Informative

    Assuming a 2 to 3 Al to H2O molar ratio, it looks like the exhaust velocity is about 900 m/s so the Isp is about 90s.

    If that's right, that sucks compared to normal mixtures.

    Of course, if you're lifting off the moon or asteroids, it may be ok.  Mars?  Probably not.

    Computing case 1
    Fixed enthalpy-pressure equilibrium - adiabatic flame temperature

    Propellant composition
    Code  Name                                mol    Mass (g)  Composition
    34    ALUMINUM (PURE CRYSTALINE)          2.0000 53.9631   1AL
    976   WATER                               3.0000 54.0458   2H  1O
    Density :  1.458 g/cm^3
    3 different elements
    AL H  O
    Total mass:  108.008918 g
    Enthalpy  : -7944.26 kJ/kg

    24 possible gazeous species
    8 possible condensed species

                           CHAMBER
    Pressure (atm)   :     340.230
    Temperature (K)  :    3166.569
    H (kJ/kg)        :   -7944.256
    U (kJ/kg)        :   -8685.762
    G (kJ/kg)        :  -33443.801
    S (kJ/(kg)(K)    :       8.053
    M (g/mol)        :      35.507
    (dLnV/dLnP)t     :    -1.00584
    (dLnV/dLnT)p     :     1.13099
    Cp (kJ/(kg)(K))  :     3.30500
    Cv (kJ/(kg)(K))  :     3.00720
    Cp/Cv            :     1.09903
    Gamma            :     1.09264
    Vson (m/s)       :   900.11114

    Molar fractions

    AL                   6.0290e-004
    ALH                  9.2486e-004
    ALH2                 2.8353e-005
    ALH3                 2.1470e-005
    ALO                  2.4478e-005
    ALOH                 5.6133e-003
    AL(OH)2              3.4527e-005
    AL(OH)3              3.1024e-006
    AL2                  1.4157e-006
    AL2O                 1.3669e-003
    AL2O2                1.1545e-005
    H                    1.0276e-002
    HALO                 2.7342e-006
    HALO2                3.5370e-007
    H2                   7.2954e-001
    H2O                  7.8723e-003
    O                    3.5048e-007
    OH                   4.1466e-005
    Condensed species
    AL2O3(L)             2.4364e-001

  15. Re:Reading comprehension. by John+Hasler · · Score: 2, Informative

    > Burning Iron Oxide+Reactive= Thermite.

    No. Iron oxide+aluminum=thermite. Rust catalyzes the reaction between potassium chlorate and sugar. Mix your fuel in a rusty container and it may ignite while you are mixing it.

    A glass container is a good choice, but wash it when you are finished. We once mixed fuel in an ashtray and then failed to clean it...

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