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Scientists Step Down After CRU Hack Fallout

An anonymous reader writes "In the wake of the recent release of thousands of private files and emails after a server of the Climate Research Unit of the University of East Anglia was hacked, Prof. Phil Jones is stepping down as head of the CRU. Prof. Michael Mann, another prominent climate scientist, is also under inquiry by Penn State University."

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  1. Fraud by pallmall1 · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    Why is it so hard to acknowledge that Jones, Mann, et al have engauged in FRAUD? Not just any kind of fraud, but a massive fraud that makes Bernie Madoff's scam look tiny. Just like Bernie, climate "scientists" like Jones and Mann have said their science doesn't need to be questioned because of their renowned reputations. Actually, they may be worse than Madoff, because AFAIK, Madoff didn't go out of his way to smear critics.

    Jones, Mann, and their fellow science-nazis should be cooling their heels in jail cells right next to Madoff.

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  2. Who should I trust more ... by Nicolas+MONNET · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    On one hand, we have dozens of national academies of science, tens of thousands of scientists, a handful of whom might or might not have embellished their results. And that is very bad indeed, although I could point out that Mendel among others is believed to have done the same thing about his peas, and we all know how wrong that turned out to be.

    On the other hand we have the most evil people on earth, from the fat Exxon types raking in dozens of billions of dollars of revenue, or the mountain top removal coal mining asswipes raping the WV landscape when they're not too busy giving blowjobs to creationist gay-bashing whore-fucking war-mongering GOP congresscritters, and the conveniently stupid born again, young earther, racist ignorant nationalist fucktards that is their constituency.

    Yeah, who am I going to fucking trust.

  3. Re:What surprises me about all of this by dwguenther · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    That's an astonishingly ignorant analysis of science. You've completely missed that point that published results can be reviewed and replicated by thousands of researchers from any research group, in any country, at any time. If 'vanity' drives any given researcher to lie (like that Korean geneticist), then sooner or later some other independent researcher will find them out. That's how science is supposed to work, and how it successfully overcomes political agendas. If you think that climate change research is rigged, then you're thinking much too small (or else thinking like a politician).

  4. Re:Science by SnarfQuest · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Science is done when you get a polition who flunked out of a religious college to make a power point presentation on a subject he barely understands. You then give him a Nobel Prize.

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  5. Re:Don't turn AGW into creation "science" by Straif · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    All your link does it point out that Federal research funding increased from 1.85 billion to 1.99 billion ANNUALLY, (and tries to make it sound like the poor little researchers are struggling to get by). Do you even have the slightest hint how much 1.99 billion dollars is? I also have to question how an increase of almost 140 million in funding is considered "almost flat" by the writer. I especially love the way he uses a change in the percentage of funding in his statement to give the appearance of a decrease when in actuality all values went up. He doesn't happen to work at the CRU does he?

    Compare that to the 23 million Exxon spent over the last decade on funding climate research projects and just guess when the money is.

    I really don't think some people understand what the 'B' in billion represents.

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