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Comcast to Buy 51% of NBC, GE Goes After 49%

An anonymous reader writes to tell us that Comcast and General Electric announced a joint venture yesterday to control NBC Universal, with Comcast coming out with the controlling interest. Comcast's hopes seem to be on succeeding in a marriage of distribution and content, where Time Warner failed. "The deal was approved by the companies' boards, and is subject to regulatory approval. GE said it expects the deal to go through in the third quarter of 2010. Congress has already said it will hold a hearing to investigate whether Comcast will gain 'undue advantages' from the deal that gives it access to programming."

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  1. In other news... by pwnies · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In other news, comcast announced today that they have a revolutionary way of throtteling high-tv viewers during "primetime" hours. While primetime was not explicitly defined (nor was "high-tv viewer"), they promised that this was in the best interest of their customers in order to ensure that everyone gets their fair share.

    Seriously though, it'll be interesting to see what happens here. Ads for new NBC shows over broadband anyone?

    1. Re:In other news... by cayenne8 · · Score: 5, Interesting
      This sounds dangerous to me.

      Such a large company in charge of the content AND the delivery channel? What happens when this all consolidates into just a couple of companies with content and channels owned...and then the government has to bail them out, and take control of.....oh wait....

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    2. Re:In other news... by commodore64_love · · Score: 2, Insightful

      A year from now, maybe even sooner, you'll no longer be able to watch Comcast-NBC owned channels over the net.

      Goodbye Bravo.com, USA.com, or Syfy.com episodes over the net. Goodbye MSNBC.com or CNBC.com streaming livefeeds. Or else if you can still stream, they'll lock it behind a subscriber wall: free for Comcast account holders and $2 per hour for the rest of us.

      If ever a monopoly needed to be busted, Comcast is it. No more exclusive licenses to supply cable tv to neighborhoods. Let other competitors enter.

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    3. Re:In other news... by sunking2 · · Score: 2, Informative

      This is what is happening, without government intervention. GE is 5 times the size of Comcast revenue wise. NBC is a drop in the bucket for them.

    4. Re:In other news... by ByOhTek · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It's funny, I read this yesterday on CNN... And for some reason, not long after I got home, NBC got blocked on my TV.

      Strange.

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    5. Re:In other news... by DJRumpy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I disagree. They are the nations 3rd largest telephone provider in addition to their internet and cable business.

      Back in 2002, Comcast was the largest cable provider int he US reaching 22 million users. I can only imagine how much they've grown since then. They are still the largest cable provider in the US.

      They are NOT a small company. Tie that in with MSNBC's media ties, and it is not a small deal.

      The merger puts Comcast in control of MSNBC (a 24 hour news channel with an enormous impact on public opinion), CNBC (which impacts public opinion about Wall Street, now a hotly debated political question), NBC network (whose nightly news show averages eight million viewers), and 27 television stations (which generally have programs covering local news).

    6. Re:In other news... by commodore64_love · · Score: 4, Interesting

      In many areas, including my own, Comcast holds the exclusive government-granted monopoly to supply cable television. In many areas they also hold a government-granted monopoly over internet, which means you might end-up like this guy (he lost his net for a year):

      Never mind. I can't find the link. ----- But in brief, he was accused by Comcast in 2007 of "downloading too much data" and they turned-off his connection for a whole year. When he asked Comcast, "How much did I use?" they said they didn't know but he was in the top 10% of downloaders, therefore they have the right to turn off his connection without any warning. And no there's no appeals process.

      Monopoly.

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    7. Re:In other news... by locallyunscene · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The last mile.

    8. Re:In other news... by VanGarrett · · Score: 2, Interesting

      But in brief, he was accused by Comcast in 2007 of "downloading too much data" and they turned-off his connection for a whole year. When he asked Comcast, "How much did I use?" they said they didn't know but he was in the top 10% of downloaders, therefore they have the right to turn off his connection without any warning. And no there's no appeals process.

      In my experience, it's always best to find that phantom Comcast office, when you intend to deal with Comcast. The information you'll get from their customer service representatives over the phone will often be quite different from the information you get in person. In my case, I was two months late on my payment, and in talking with them over the phone, they wanted me to pay off the price of the cable modem as well as the service, before they would agree to re-instate my internet service. So, I started paying it off in large chunks at a time, and when I found their office (indeed, that office is difficult to find, in Fresno, all signs being completely obscured when coming from the most likely direction), my attempt to complete my payment was halted. I was informed there that my account was completely paid off. I figured that since I had the money and was already there, I'd just go ahead and credit it to my account, at which point, I was informed that my account was already credited by $170. Shrugging, I just requested that my service be restored (had it upgraded, as well; it turned out to be cheaper to buy both internet and television, than to buy internet alone), and I didn't have a bill from Comcast until February the next year.

      tl;dr: Don't call Comcast when you have a problem. Visit their office, instead.

    9. Re:In other news... by commodore64_love · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yes corporations act all "corporationy" AND they benefit from socialism (government handouts and pro-corporate regulations)

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  2. Also announced... by smurphmeister · · Score: 5, Funny

    Starting immediately, CBS and ABC will now only be available as pay per view for all Comcast customers!

    1. Re:Also announced... by castironpigeon · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Unplug while you still can, there's a real world out there, and its more HD than HD and has surround sound.

      /. irony at it's best.

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    2. Re:Also announced... by MikeBabcock · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yawn. I can visit the antarctic and china in HD, watch plane crashes and learn about huge construction disasters, go to the bottom of the ocean and see space. I don't have the funds to do any of the things in real life that I experience while TV.

      When the local anchorperson starts coming to the front door to give me the news, I'll do that in your "real life" too.

      Get off your soap box.

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  3. Re:whom the gods would destroy they first make mad by LOLLinux · · Score: 5, Funny

    That was pretty hardcore dude. You're soooo nonconformist. Keep raging against the machine while Cheetos dust covers your neckbeard down in your parent's basement.

  4. Re:whom the gods would destroy they first make mad by pwnies · · Score: 3, Funny

    There's virtually nothing good on television anyway

    It's ok dude, I'm sure they're gonna bring back Firefly. It's true cause I signed this one petition online and everything!

  5. Bad News for TW customers by stewbacca · · Score: 2, Informative

    As a Time Warner customer, I look forward to losing NBC again this Summer as Time Warner tries to convince me that the evil NBC wants to charge me more money for my tv, and how Time Warner is either forced to raise my rates, or drop NBC coverage. Lame, lame, lame. AT&T, please extend your service about 10 more miles south.

  6. They are evil, not stupid by CorporateSuit · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I could only hope this would end in disaster for both evil corporations.

    Yet, I have serious doubts about that. When two legions that have sold their souls to the devil for money combine on a project that seems doomed from the start, I'm wary to dismiss it on the grounds that it defies common sense, and try to find out what they're looking at.

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  7. You're missing the big picture. by NeutronCowboy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Comcast is gunning for vertical integration. In order to optimize the benefits from its vertical integration, it has a very strong incentive to prioritize NBC sites and content over other sites and content.

    I'm convinced that Comcast's package will include optimized delivery for NBC sites and content, only available to Comcast users. In and of itself not a bad deal, but there is very little difference to the end-user between optimizing delivery of your own stuff and throttling delivery of other people's stuff - except that one is dirt cheap to do, and the other is expensive. In a few years, I'm expecting Comcast to offer sites like it currently offers channels: with different pay tiers and different performance.

    Nice troll sig, by the way. I'll reply with a quote from Sagan: " They laughed at Columbus, they laughed at Fulton, they laughed at the Wright brothers. But they also laughed at Bozo the Clown."

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    1. Re:You're missing the big picture. by commodore64_love · · Score: 4, Insightful

      >>>I'm convinced that Comcast's package will include optimized delivery for NBC sites and content

      "If you watch videos elsewhere, it will count towards your 250 GB limit, but videos watched on nbc.com, nsnbc.com, cnbc.com, bravo.com, usa.com, and other NBC or Comcast-owned sites will not be counted." - Future comcast update to their TOS

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  8. Spoken Like a True Narrow-Minded Consumer by RobotRunAmok · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's the dinosaurs who are the ones funding the production of the entertainments that you are, ummm, appropriating from the torrents. You'd better hope they stay flush somehow, or the only piece of new content left to pirate will be Joss Whedon's grocery list. Oh, wait, I know -- we'll just instruct all the professional producers and directors to put their work on their blogs and fund production on what we tip them in PayPal. Worked for This Guy, didn't it?

    1. Re:Spoken Like a True Narrow-Minded Consumer by plasmacutter · · Score: 2, Interesting

      We dont need them. Their budgets are way too high, they pay their actors more per film than most people make in a lifetime, and for what...for them to stand around and woodenly repeat lines made by writers who are worse than your average third grader?

      trek '09? terminator salvation? harry potter?
      give me a BREAK!

      We don't need them! The faster they die the better!

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  9. Slashdot: Yesterday's News... Today! by macwhizkid · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Seriously, this was on the front page of every news outlet... almost two days ago. I know that there's a bit of a lag time to get things on Slashdot, but honestly, is it asking that much to post big stories the same day they happen?

    1. Re:Slashdot: Yesterday's News... Today! by Sir_Lewk · · Score: 5, Funny

      Here at slashdot we get news articles later than elsewhere because of the large ammount of background research and spellchecking the editors put into each article. You pay a price for good editing.

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  10. Re:whom the gods would destroy they first make mad by qoncept · · Score: 2

    Dead? Wow. Apparently the 300 million people in the US that are going to turn their TVs on tonight are pretty oblivious, too. Who knew?

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  11. This was the way it used to be... by tjstork · · Score: 5, Informative

    Originally NBC was owned by the now defunct RCA. NBC was founded essentially to make content so that RCA could sell more Radios and then Televisions and all the equipment needed to create a radio and tv station. So, not only did RCA own the pipe, they had actually owned the -hardware-. Eventually GE would buy RCA in the early 1980s for the sole purpose of getting NBC. They basically kept NBC, closed RCA, but sold the logo to the French. As an Ex-RCA Employee, I still curse Jack Welch but.... in those days, the merger of RCA and GE which should have been seen as troubling was almost irrelevant as both companies were still selling tubes in the age of the transistor and Sony was really stomping up a storm.

    Bottom line is, yeah, it will be a big company, but there's a lot of other media and a lot of other competition out there.

    [disclosure: I live in the Philly area and, having lost the World Series to the Yankees, the thought of the NBC HQ from NYC to Philly seems like it would be really sweet. They got the team, but we get the TV].

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    1. Re:This was the way it used to be... by plague3106 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If you're from philly, you know how shitty comcast is, and why old women smash their offices with a hammer.

      Of course this isn't the same now; NBC is a lot more than just NBC, and while NBC broadcast TV and RCA made TVs, they didn't OWN the method of broadcast. Comcast (and cable / sat.) is the ONLY way to receive most channels today. Add in to this that comcast also controls many peoples connection to the internet, and thats where the problelm comes in.

  12. Terrible wording by maxume · · Score: 3, Informative

    GE currently owns a majority stake in NBC Universal (they needed to negotiate with the other owner, Vivendi, before they could proceed with this deal). Under the deal, a new company is being formed, with GE contributing NBC Universal and Comcast contributing some of their content assets and a bunch cash (or cash like assets). Comcast ends up with 51% ownership of the new company, and GE 49%.

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  13. Re:How can if fail? by Maximum+Prophet · · Score: 2, Informative

    Minor nitpick. AOL bought TW, then TW turned around a swallowed AOL. Big miscalculation on the part of Steve Case.

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  14. Comcast needs to be split up by QuietLagoon · · Score: 4, Insightful
    into three separate companies:
    1. infrastructure, i.e., the wire and fibre on the poles
    2. ISP and phone services
    3. content provider

    This will allow for competition for those people who are stuck with Comcast being the sole provider.

    1. Re:Comcast needs to be split up by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This will allow for competition for those people who are stuck with Comcast being the sole provider.

      Why don't you get your government to stop granting monopolies instead? They caused your problem, don't ask them to try to fix it too, they'll do just as good as job.

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  15. Did anyone consult Shinehart Wigs? by Labcoat+Samurai · · Score: 5, Funny

    Wonder what effect this will have on plots in 30 Rock. Is Jack going to gun for CEO of Comcast now? That lacks the same punch.

    1. Re:Did anyone consult Shinehart Wigs? by maxume · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Given that it is moderately entertaining, it will likely be canceled.

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  16. What happens to Hulu? by midicase · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Doesn't NBC partly own Hulu? Isn't Comcast's Cable system in competition with Hulu?

    1. Re:What happens to Hulu? by powerlord · · Score: 2, Informative

      Because NBC was the main push behind Hulu bringing programming from NBC, USA and SyFy (nee' SciFi).

      Fox is certainly on board, but ABC has only recently started to dip their toe into the waters and put their content on it (and even then, its tentative, marketing type runs). Most of ABC's on-line show related content is still locked up in their proprietary web-site and Flash GUI. The only other network that is even close to them is the CW (do they even count as a network anymore?)

      If Comcast takes over NBC and decides to cancel or otherwise interfere with Hulu broadcasting more that the current Hulu standard, it could impact the use/utility of the service.

      It remains to be seen if another service would rise in its place (although I hope one would).

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  17. Re:Note to Jay Leno by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Say what you want about the quality of his work. But the mother's dead body etc are OTT. Ran into him in some high way rest stop. He was riding with a bunch of motor cyclists. Nicest celebrity one would have met. Very down to earth and posed for pictures for all, despite being without make-up and being out in the sun on a hot day with sweat and grime making him look older. Nice guy. He would not have climbed over his mother's dead body even for the original 1895 Daimler.

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  18. Directv must be feeling the heat by jj00 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    First Versus, and now this. Directv must feel like they can't win.

    I guess when the time comes I'll cut the lines to my satellite dish and just accept my new cable company overlords.

  19. Re:whom the gods would destroy they first make mad by sorak · · Score: 2, Funny

    I would have enjoyed that TV show a lot more if all the actors went topless

    Ugghh...CBS Tried that with the Golden Girls once, and that episode sucked!

  20. Re:Note to Jay Leno by s73v3r · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If a Douche Bag doesn't actually act like a Douche Bag to anyone, are they really a Douche Bag?