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Facebook ID Probe Shows Things Getting Worse

An anonymous reader writes "According to Sophos, Facebook users are getting sloppier with their personal info, not better. Revisiting a 2007 survey in which a plastic frog got 87 hits out of 200 friend requests, this time a rubber duck and a cat got 87 out of 200 friend requests, plus a bonus 8 friends who decided to trust them anyway. The research also suggests that older Facebook users are sloppier than the young, being keener to build their list of friends. (The older users had more than 4x the friends each, on average, than the young.)"

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  1. Possibly because... by wirah · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ...the younger members just need more time to make friends!

    1. Re:Possibly because... by suso · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yes and clearly Facebook isn't about "who do you know now", its about "who have you known through your whole life who can come back to haunt you".

  2. Olders users know more people? by TheSeventh · · Score: 4, Funny

    The older users had more than 4x the friends each, on average, than the young.

    It's like older users know more people than younger users, and that's just not possible. Kids know everything, just ask them.

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    1. Re:Olders users know more people? by Darth_brooks · · Score: 4, Funny

      "When I was 18, I thought my father was the dumbest man on earth. By the time I turned 23, I was amazed what the old man had learned in five years." - Unknown

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    2. Re:Olders users know more people? by fastest+fascist · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Well, this is based on a completely unscientific poll of my brain cells, but it seems older users would be more likely to, at least initially, treat sites like Facebook as something new to just try out, a fun toy more than a serious part of their lives, and thus less likely to care that much about how they expose themselves on such a site.

    3. Re:Olders users know more people? by shadwstalkr · · Score: 5, Informative

      Actually it's "When I was a boy of 14, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be 21, I was astonished at how much the old man had learned in seven years." -- Mark Twain

    4. Re:Olders users know more people? by megamerican · · Score: 4, Funny

      Well, this is based on a completely unscientific poll of my brain cells, but it seems older users would be more likely to, at least initially, treat sites like Facebook as something new to just try out, a fun toy more than a serious part of their lives, and thus less likely to care that much about how they expose themselves on such a site.

      Old people exposing themselves on facebook seems like a far larger problem than than this article speaks of.

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  3. Uhh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    From TFS: "The older users had more than 4x the friends each, on average, than the young."

    They've also had a lifetime of real life social networking (not the online kind) to boost the level of friends and acquaintances they would like to keep in contact with.

    Young people are very cliquey with their behaviour in regards to friends. When I was in school, I could've counted my true friends on my fingers. When I went out into the world and bounced jobs for a couple years, I met many more interesting people that I remained friends with after the jobs had come and gone.

    Also, do we really need another article to tell us that the older people in society are less hip to the social network scams?

  4. Nah - I think you can blame Mafia Wars, Farmville, by Penguinisto · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm thinking that a lot of people add folks they don't know into their friends' pile for the applications, esp. games. After all, Mafia Wars and the like are rigged to get you more in-game "power" (more defense, offense, etc) with the larger number of friends you add (and then subsequently add into your "Mafia", or "Neighbors", or "Crew").

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  5. Unfair Tests by happy_place · · Score: 4, Funny

    Who doesn't want to be friends with a rubber ducky. Anyone raised on that nefarious propaganda brain-washing show, 'Sesame Street' knows to sing "Rubber ducky! You're the one! You make bathtime so much fun! Rubber ducky, you're the only one for me!" I mean who wouldn't want to be friends with a rubber ducky? It's much more meaningful a relationship than anyone you knew from High School.

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    1. Re:Unfair Tests by electricbern · · Score: 4, Funny

      It is also unlikely the rubber ducky will steal your personal data or use your private information with any evil intentions. The cat on the other hand, likely.

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  6. Are they being friended to REAL accounts? by djrosen · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I personally have 2 accounts. I use one strictly for games where I will accept any and all takers. I post to lists to increase my numbers and can see from 20 to hundreds of requests per day. That account has no real data.

    My other REAL account only has REAL friends and Family. I scrutinize every request and all personal settings are very tight as to only allow friends to see the data. I'd consider myself an 'older' user @ +40. From what I have seen, this is not uncommon.

  7. Here is a crazy idea by nizo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How about not putting stuff up on social media sites that you wouldn't want posted on a bulletin board at the local laundromat? Why on earth would I post my DOB, address, phone number there for example??

  8. Re:Nah - I think you can blame Mafia Wars, Farmvil by spamking · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That's why I don't use my real contact info for my Mafia Wars account . . . I'm not sure why anyone would.

  9. They got me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    I was sure I knew that duck! Now that little bastard know all about me...

  10. That, or we don't give a shit. by A.+B3ttik · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'd probably accept anyone who cares enough to "friend" me, whether I know them or not. Mark me in the 43.5%, a guy who once accepted a friend request from "Some Pencils" and a random girl in Arizona (thousands of miles from me) just because she was a girl. What are these people going to find out... my hometown? My college? My favorite tv shows? Who cares? I don't think I'm really stalker material, and iIf my favorite movies are that important to some guy writing a corporate spambot, whatever, he can have it. He can't even find my address or my phone number on facebook, two things I consider more personal, and _those_ you can already find in any phonebook site.

    Hell, maybe we're _more_ careful about our personal info since facebook doesn't really have anything on it that we value.

    1. Re:That, or we don't give a shit. by Bottles · · Score: 5, Funny

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  11. Public Privacy by smitty777 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If this trend is true, it points towards our "habituation" with the notion of the lack of privacy in our society. I think that along with the flood of information in our society comes the feeling that "all information should be freely available". People in general are becoming de-sensitized to this trend more and more, and expect more information about themselves to be available publicly. Not even just online - take a popular show like CSI. I think it's just sort of assumed that everyone is leaving this massive digital fingerprint behind them.

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  12. Spammers? by pz · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Could it be that these befriendings are from people who don't care about privacy, or, put a better way, want to use Facebook to send spam messages, and so will befriend EVERYONE?

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  13. Re:Nah - I think you can blame Mafia Wars, Farmvil by Buelldozer · · Score: 5, Informative

    I assigned all of my "game friends" into their own group and then used Facebooks group security to limit the personal information that they can see. It took all of five minutes to setup. Someone in that group can see as much information about me as someone who isn't my friend at all, which is to say not much.

    Now I'll accept every friend request that comes my way. If I don't recognize the name and the friend doesn't leave a note saying how they know me then I push them into the game friend group. Problem solved.

  14. Skewed results... by VShael · · Score: 4, Funny

    I was running a similar experiment. And my pet cat Heisenberg befriended the Rubber Duck, a Nigerian prince, a Ukrainian boyband, and various sundry inanimate objects from other similar experiments.

  15. not for nothing... by mp3LM · · Score: 4, Insightful

    not for nothing...but you're doing a study of 200 people on a network of 350 million...kind of small study...

  16. Re:Nah - I think you can blame Mafia Wars, Farmvil by asdf7890 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I assigned all of my "game friends" into their own group and then used Facebooks group security to limit the personal information that they can see.

    Does that actually work at the moment? A few months ago myself and a friend had a play with those features and no matter what settings he used I kept being able to see everything I could before we started. Admittedly we didn't report the issues nor have we bothered re-testing (so maybe our experience is just a fluke or a temporary issue at the time).

  17. Purging my friend's list by areusche · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I must be in the minority. If I don't know a person I won't add them as a friend. Heck I've gone through my friend's list and purged out people I don't talk to or in other instances strongly dislike from way back in high school. I also don't play Mobwars or Farmville which is just a needless waste of time. I avoid them because I would become engrossed in it.

  18. Re:Nah - I think you can blame Mafia Wars, Farmvil by eln · · Score: 3, Informative

    Keep in mind that the game itself still has access to all of your information. The Facebook terms of service prohibits the game from using or storing that information for anything not game-related, but there's nothing other than the honor system and Facebook's vague threats to occasionally enforce the rules that prevents it from doing so. The API itself will happily grant access to everything, whether the game needs it or not.

    Your best bet, if you must play FB games, is to maintain an entirely separate profile just for that purpose, and put nothing personally identifiable on it.

  19. Re:Nah - I think you can blame Mafia Wars, Farmvil by Sillygates · · Score: 4, Funny

    I think you can blame Mafia Wars, Farmville

    Thanks for reminding me. I need to harvest my crops!

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  20. You can do that to your friend's list? by ThrowAwaySociety · · Score: 4, Funny

    Heck I've gone through my friend's list and purged out people I don't talk to or in other instances strongly dislike from way back in high school.

    Personally, I think its irresponsible of your friend to have given you the kind of access necessary to remove people from his or her list.

  21. Re:I'm friends with a Turkey, but it's restricted by pluther · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I still don't understand what the big deal is about finding someone's address and phone number.

    Back in Ye Olden Days, when people had telephones that were plugged into walls, all this information was printed in large books distributed free to every customer.

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